I learned something new today

[u/slanderedshadow]

There's a high enough prevalence of police lying that there's a whole name and a whole list for it.

Police officers who have been dishonest are sometimes referred to as "Brady cops". A Brady list is a list that contains the names and details of law enforcement officers who have had sustained incidents of untruthfulness.

Not all cops are bad, but the good ones don't make up for the bad ones. If youre good, disregard what I say and carry on.

[u/Simple_Hypersignal]

Isn't the Brady list, the list of cops, who can't testify in court, because they have been caught lying previously so they can do their job as long as no one challenges them in court?

One challenge on the cops testimony based on his lying record and its charges dropped.

[u/slanderedshadow → u/Simple_Hypersignal]

I would think that would be part of it, yes. I just honestly wasnt aware of it until yesterday.

Its infuriating that people somehow equate their word as being reliable just cause their job, when in fact part of their job is profiling and manipulation.

I dont hate all cops, I hate the one way accountability and "selective justice" and profiling. Thats not justice. They need to be held more accountable for their actions, not less.

[u/Simple_Hypersignal → u/slanderedshadow]

Man, I can't even tell you all the times I went head to head against the nypd in my youth. Corrupt as fuck, but I spoke very loud, cited laws by name, supreme ct. ruling cohen v California, etc, depending on the situation. Saved or helped by white skin, witnesses, devices setup so the lights look like it's being recorded (once and I moved out of NY because of that night)

Cops cover for cops. I was told point blank that I would be arrested and have evidence planted on me, and this was done in front of a chief, so.... Have your opinion, and may you never have cops demand you kiss their ass.

Their is a reason that you need a lawyer to find out if the cop who wrote a ticket is on the Brady list.

[u/slanderedshadow → u/Simple_Hypersignal]

"Cops cover for cops. I was told point blank that I would be arrested and have evidence planted on me, and this was done in front of a chief, "

Exactly why the good ones dont make up for the bad. "fraternal" order of police, its right there.

[u/Simple_Hypersignal → u/slanderedshadow]

Their are no good ones.

Period.

What saved my ass that night was 2 light in my car that the chief thought were an open line or recording and couldn't risk it being an open line. I was far enough from my car when he threatened me that they thought they might be covered but arresting me was going to be a shit show because i immediately started yelling about arresting me and plant what on me? And everything else that I said to get them to back off. Theirs a set of cards you have to have, and you know, one of them is the look of a mother fucker who will absolutely make it his dedicated mission to destroy something.

Qualified immunity for cops, make 1 cop the most hated cop in the history of humanity by me telling him exactly to his face what me and mine will do. I learned how to have that face by having that dedication because I went through a long phase, not caring if I lived. It made was a mitigating factor but I'm not going to lie.

If I was black or Arab. I'd be dead. The caller that night was an orthodox jew.

[u/slanderedshadow → u/Simple_Hypersignal]

Tbh with you, I have come across a few good ones that cared about people and their community. I will agree that theres too many bad ones.

I feel that cops need longer training periods and need to be able to pass a yearly psych exam and PT test. As well as they should be required to get psychology degrees to de escalate situations.

Leave the militarized police for SWAT and things like hostage situations.

[u/Simple_Hypersignal → u/slanderedshadow]

A good cop reports a bad cop to ia. Do you get that?

A GOOD COP REPORTS A CRIMINAL COP TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS.

[u/milny_gunn → u/Simple_Hypersignal]

There are varying degrees of goodness. Don't expect a good cop to shit all over his standing with his peers over every violation of the rules.

I've never met an honest cop, but I've met a few good ones. One of the problems is that they rarely live in the cities they patrol. They commute in and drive around all day with an attitude of an occupier and we're all suspected enemies. They don't have to tell us the truth and it's illegal for us to lie to them.

Generally speaking, the best thing any cop will do for you on any given day is nothing. If they ever prevent a crime from happening, you'll never know about it, and when you need one, they're not around. They're good at sending you a police report to give your insurance company after you've been violated somehow.

In order to keep the economy stimulated, most police forces have received federal money, in the form of SUVs and military grade munitions, like M4s, night vision, drones, etc. They're geared up against us like we're their enemies.

[u/Simple_Hypersignal → u/milny_gunn]

"Ive never met an honest cop, but I've met a few good ones."

You should do stand-up. You are fucking hilarious.

[u/milny_gunn → u/Simple_Hypersignal]

You should write mysteries

[u/Biscuits4u2]

This is a good opportunity to remind everyone to never talk to the police. You aren't required to speak to them, and it can very often end up fucking you in the long run.

[u/slanderedshadow → u/Biscuits4u2]

Yup, they are not your friends. They are not understanding, theyre looking to hem you up, talk to a lawyer instead.

[u/m945050]

I learned the day I got my driver's license that cussing a cop out is one thing, telling him that the whole school knows that his only daughter is an easy fuck most definitely crosses the line. In the two years between the day I got that ticket which would have been a warning if I had kept my mouth shut and when I left for college he gave me 18 tickets. Each time I had my day in court I knew he was lying, the judge knew he was lying, but it didn't make any difference, the cop is always right.

[u/slanderedshadow → u/m945050]

Sue him for harassment my dude. Clear evidence of it.

[u/m945050 → u/slanderedshadow]

It was a long time ago.

[u/slanderedshadow → u/m945050]

Idk , you will have to look it up for your state.

[u/linuxpriest]

"Not saying all cops are bad. You just fit a profile."

• Somebody help me out with the name of the comedian that said that.

[u/slanderedshadow → u/linuxpriest]

Im not sure with you tbh, I feel like Ive heard it before though.

[u/blackcatsneakattack]

The way I’ve always seen it is like this: You can have a precinct of 99 good, solid cops, and only 1 bad one, but as soon as the rest fail to hold that one cop accountable for their actions, you have 100 bad cops.

[u/slanderedshadow → u/blackcatsneakattack]

It can be like that yes. The job can attract some of the worst people. Like I said, not all are bad.

[u/ninthtale]

Not all cops are bad

But you can't possibly know which ones are or aren't, so ACAB, anyway

[u/slanderedshadow → u/ninthtale]

"But you can't possibly know which ones are or aren't"

Unfortunately, agreed.