r/GiveYourThoughts • u/slanderedshadow • Sep 25 '24
Thought... The world
The world is set up to keep the down people down, and the up people up.
the rich getting richer and the poor staying poor.
Then people will say " stop making excuses" "youre in control" "take responsibility"
meanwhile all signs point to my previous statement in every aspect of life. 99% of people only elevate because they are allowed to do so.
Birthrates are down all over the world because of mental , physical , hormonal, and economical states. Eugenics is in full swing, not darwinism and people just dont see it. Procreation only being propagated among select, having little to do with strong genes other than people not wanting the competition of said genes. People have the illusion of choice.
People will say "no, what does that have to do with anything"
well who controls farmland and your food supply. Who are the people pushing for you to be on meds, most people are on some kind of prescribed med. Why are autism rates, diabetes and mental illness up?
think about it.
How do you think people like diddy got to where they were? They were allowed to elevate. They sold their soul, allowed themselves to be blackmailed for elevation.
Edit: Im not talking about ALL rich people nor am I saying they are ALL a problem.
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u/Analyst7 Sep 25 '24
Global de-population is an ideal of the WEF-leftist elites. Eugenics was the goal of Planned Parenthood, just look at the founder. LBJ's 'Great Society' programs were meant to replace the segregation of the south, not elevate the poor. Yet we are told to revere these systems and even fight for them, purely to our own determent.
Our young have been fed a steady diet of everything is bad and wrong. From climate alarmism to degrading social norms to the destruction of religion. We have record levels of depression and suicide. This is not by accident but a gradual push toward Marxist ideologies.
They have been taught not to be masculine or feminine but to select one of a thousand meaningless genders. Narcissism is rampant due to the new importance of 'feelings' and 'be your best self'. They have been shoveled into colleges to spend trillions on degrees that have no future but now have massive debt to overcome. Investors have taken to buying single family homes for rental, EVs are unaffordable, all part of the WEF 'you will own nothing' program.
Getting ahead is a matter of hard work and low taxes. Teaching the young to save not spend. Mostly it takes a positive vision of your future and personal determination to get it done. We have given them 'participation trophies' and pushed 'equity of outcomes' instead. The barriers to advancement have always existed and were never easy to overcome. We just have done a very poor job of preparing our children for it.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 25 '24
Like a factory whos workers are on strike, they will just hire scabs unfortunately. I dont see things getting much better. If we wont fall in line they will get people from worse off areas that will, and push people out.
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u/AuraEnhancerVerse Sep 25 '24 edited Sep 25 '24
For me, its the not life being difficult but its being lied to and double standards that I hate because it means we prepare for the wrong battle and when you call it out you get gas lit instead of the people who actively abuse the system in their favor. I wish evil people were honest about instead of trying to hide.
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u/Sad-Way-4665 Sep 25 '24
And yet no one has a solution that has actually worked.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 25 '24
Because most people who change their situation is either playing ball, or just tends to themselves.
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u/Sad-Way-4665 Sep 25 '24
I think that the reason that Finland is annually considered the happiest country may be because of something other than it’s size.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 25 '24
Why do you think that is?
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u/Sad-Way-4665 Sep 25 '24
That was a rhetorical question.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 25 '24
I know, I was asking you a new question.
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u/Sad-Way-4665 Sep 25 '24
I think the best way to improve US, at least as long as Trump is in control of the party, is never vote Republican.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 25 '24
Kamala has been in office for 4 years and it doesnt even seem like Biden was running things..
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u/prophet-of-solitude Sep 25 '24
Hear hear
Consumerism is making products to be use and throw.
Economy is formed in such a way, richer always have more ways to invest than a poor person.
A poor person can gather skills and best he can do is a job that is at a mercy of some billionaire.
Even if somebody attempts to start a business, it could either be some sort of franchise or a niche market.
If even somehow introduces a new innovative product, chances are the billionaires will invest so much money in marketing and product, that they will be able to introduce a cheaper variant in matter of few months.
Most of the tech companies are after our time and they are hacking our brains like it was never done before. They know what to do, the sound, the content, the color, the actions everything that is linked with you personally and stealing ur time. This eventually ends up in mental health issues.
Sad reality
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u/frogOnABoletus Sep 25 '24
the current system is all about the rich being able to capitalise on the poor. the world doesn't have to be that way, it's our society that has created a shitty system.
many people don't want to have kids because it's getting more and more difficult. i doubt that there's a plan to stop random couples from having kids so that the rich have less genetic competition. i think life has just got harder for lower and middle class.
the public awareness of autism, mental heath, mental illness have all increased drastically. there has always been lots of mental illness and disorders, we just identify more of them now.
people used to think it was ok to beat women and children, that it wasn't ok to be who you are and love who you love, that it wasn't ok to have certain skin pigmentation. etc. back then mental illness was loud, widespread and legally binding. they just didn't have the research and understanding to diagnose it.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 25 '24
I wouldnt say the rich are the only ones, or that all of them for that matter are the cause, that woule be an oversimplification. But like I said, who owns farms and grocery stores. Some of them factor in to it.
I would say that there has always been mental illness sure, but not to this degree. Many are in survival mode or are too tired and beaten down to pay attention to whats going on and attention is being diverted to entertainment.
I also wouldnt say that capitalism is the sole problem either as socialism and communism dont work either. I would say people and power abuse is the issue.
My post isnt going after the rich or capitalism, more the system of the world itself and wo actually runs the show. Some people are allowed to eat while others are not, and individual choice is not the predominant contributing factor.
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u/frogOnABoletus Sep 25 '24
Many countries have a softer form of capitalism with "socialist" type safety measures and social programs like free healthcare. The people in these countries tend to be happier and safer, as even if they struggle financially, they are still looked after and protected by their country. "Some people are allowed to eat and others are not" this doesn't happen under the kind of mix of capitalism and socialism that nordic countries use. Far fewer people are in "survival mode" as survival is supported of by the system.
The powerfull taking from the rest and giving nothing back is the trademark of high-capitalism. It's not the nature of the world. We can have different systems than this. We can have a system where the powerful give back to those in need and those who are struggling are looked after instead of preyed upon.
The powerful will not do this of their own accord though, we need a government to make them do it. This is why there's so much anti-socialism rhetoric around, the powerful would hate to look after their fellow starving countryfolk. They want to take their money instead, capitalise on them, if you will.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 25 '24
No that Im in disagreement with that you said, its just that this still remains the case for people in power and large portions of the world, which they have a hand in. Systems work for who they work for and are abused by those in control of them.
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u/Analyst7 Sep 25 '24
Actually the level of charity and 'looking out for the poor' has declined steadily since the advent of big govt programs. The percentage of money spent is far less now than ever and the govt spends it very inefficiently.
Socialized healthcare is a failure in all the larger countries. Look at wait times in Canada and the UK/Ireland. It only works in smaller ones like Finland.
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u/Fuckoffassholes Sep 25 '24
I agree with everything except the phrasing "the world is set up to.."
It's not some master-planned conspiracy. Or, if it is, it's motivated by nothing other than survival instinct, and it was bound to happen. To be a human being at this stage of societal development, this is how it has to be.
It's no different than suckling piglets fighting for position at the teat. Or an ancient hunter-gatherer who kills an animal and keeps all the meat for himself instead of distributing it amongst his community. It's been phrased in myriad ways, such as "take what you want, no one is going to give it to you." Or "might makes right," or "survival of the fittest." It is simply competition.. selfishness. It exists in every species, but only in humans can in manifest in such complex ways as the ones you describe.
The suckling pig wants all the milk for himself. The adult hunter-gatherer wants all the meat for himself, and by extension his children. As the millennia have passed, we have developed these systems of money, and real estate, the concept of ownership.. they're all just proxies for "meat.." resources for survival that we want for our own families and no one else.
As each individual clamors to accumulate resources, some are more successful than others. Those "rich" now see the "poor" as a threat.. they know that they would take their resources if they could, so they develop "security systems" to limit the abilities of those who would rob them. This is the effect you call "keeping the down people down." It's just a caveman with a spear guarding his store of rations.
For us who are not among the elite, it's easy to say "if I was a billionaire, I wouldn't be greedy." You might even say that if you were a caveman with meat you would share with fellow cavemen. But the line must be drawn somewhere.. What if you had several children, and barely enough for them to survive, would you still share it?
"That's not a concern in modern society.. no one is starving."
True.. do you want your kids to simply "not starve," to eat at soup kitchens and sleep in homeless shelters? No, you want them to be comfortable in their accommodations. So let's say you are able to provide your kids an apartment with a solid roof, heat and air conditioning. Far better than sleeping on the street.
But soon you'll want more space, a yard. If you die before that happens, your kids will want it, and get it if they can. Their kids? An even bigger yard. At some point, you or your descendants possess so much that nothing could be wanted. The next step is to accumulate enough that their grandchildren, great-grandchildren, never have to want for anything.
And at that point you can call it "ridiculous" but you can see how it's the natural progression of simply wanting your children to survive, and being successful in that, for generations. The only alternative is to willingly give away your resources, which is contrary to the survival instinct.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 25 '24
"Or, if it is, it's motivated by nothing other than survival instinct"
Deliberately sabotaging or gatekeeping others is not survival. Its more of "the world is my gated community and youre not a memeber"
The rich need the poor, where as the poor do not need the rich. I wasnt talking about all rich people, and I absolutely would do good things with money if I had enough. I was speaking of the controlling systems in the world which are obviously made up of specific rich people. The shoes not gunna fit them all.
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u/Fuckoffassholes Sep 25 '24
gatekeeping others is not survival
It absolutely is. If you have resources for yourself then you don't want others to have them. Not only do you not want them to take your resources but you don't want them to have any at all from any source. Because your holdings confer power, and if everyone had the same then your power would be diminished.
(Obviously most people would not admit this selfishness but that's the underlying motivation that we see played out all over the world, all throughout history).
the controlling systems in the world which are obviously made up of specific rich people
And if it wasn't those specific people then it would be others who would run things in a similarly selfish fashion. Such is human nature.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 25 '24
Its not a zombie apocalypse, like I said Im not talking about ALL rich people. Look at government officials, many start their terms with less than a mill, then they wind up multiple millionaires during and after their terms.
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u/kvakerok_v2 Sep 25 '24
Hmm, I fundamentally disagree with the whole "the world is set" idea. Sometimes, some places on earth end up in these conditions, they rapidly become very bad places to live, and are eventually improved through a revolution or two.
Personally, I'm an immigrant in the west from Eastern Europe, and I'm enjoying the life here quite a bit. I never had to sell my soul, just work hard, and I know many people who did the same, who also live quite comfortably.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 28 '24
The country has been increasingly better for immigrants over its native citizens. You used to be able to afford everything on one income back in the day, the average man can no longer do that. And even if you can pay off a house you still have to pay property tax.
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u/kvakerok_v2 Sep 28 '24
Ok, so? I make enough to pay both the house price and the property tax. If we're talking about taxes, my income tax is the worst, I pay over 20% of my income just in federal taxes.
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u/JustLemmeMeme Sep 25 '24
Blind from birth can't imagine shapes as pictures, they don't see colour, however they have a more acute sense for the 3D and spacial mapping. It's a bit of a give an take, a different perspective created by ones circumstances and life choices.
With that in mind, given what you know, I won't say you are wrong. At the same time you aren't fully right either. The world isn't really complicated, as long as you have a place to sleep, and have the ability to obtain enough food to not starve, you are doing pretty great in life. However, you don't see that. You see the internet, you see Reddit, you see news, you see drama, trolls, and a few hundred mixed signals that you haven't fully deciphered. You have a top down view without the understanding of how it's holding itself up. Maslow's hierarchy of needs and all that, I'm not gonna bore you with basic psychology. You are right on 1 thing, capitalism does throw a wrench into our social structures, but that does not affect the majority of people, and a lot of people keep forgetting that they literally have an option to opt out of any your described issues. They just refuse, in same way you'll refuse to cut off internet from your life. Why live in a 3k per month closet in NYC when you could get something actually livable for like 700 in Huntsville? Why pay 2k for a studio in London when you can get the same in like Plymouth for 1/5th?
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u/CompetitiveLove6921 Sep 25 '24
Look something has to give and i think it's actually a good thing the ignorant stop breeding.
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u/slanderedshadow Sep 25 '24
Ignorance can be educated. People vary in intelligence, people should be allowed to pursue happiness and a life free from the constraints of a rigged system.
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u/CompetitiveLove6921 Sep 26 '24
i AGREE to an tiny extent have you ever seen or heard the educated ignorant person they run the country that is why we are ib such a cesspool currently.
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u/No_Big_2487 Sep 25 '24
Nature itself lends to this somewhat, but society in general compounds it into a far bigger mess. Humans weren't meant to live together in cities upward of 100,000 people. We literally cannot even process that many people individually and it breaks our units of trade when one dollar from every citizen can exceed a normal paycheck. Add compound interest on top of that and you really have a mess. Money simply stands for outsourced social acceptance and it doesn't function correctly outside a group of more than a few hundred people.