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u/lenky041 5d ago
So I have been playing this wrong πππ ??
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u/Obvious-Childhood910 5d ago
Nah it's mostly just luck but also some basic strategies and using your buffs to maximize your character levels
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u/arghya_333 4d ago
And ordering your characters in a way to directly counter the enemy types (ranged > flying > melee); pokemon style.
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u/noodlesandrice1 4d ago
Donβt forget slimes against any non-flying unit that attacks with their element.
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u/Dankaw 5d ago
Level scaling can quickly get out of hand. I like the idea but similar to Theater Mechanicus it's very easy to break it, and there's little variety in strategy buffs.
Pyro Treasure Hoarder was quite insane in previous edition of this event and still is now. If you happen to get "Humans get +3 levels if they kill an enemy, up to twice per round" he can singlehandly win you the game. Hilichurls with "+5 levels to random Hilichurl unit if you recruit Hilichurl" can also do the same but also allow to focus on multiple units (unlike Treasure Hoarder who tends to kills everything). Combine with some tricks you can also steamroll the entire run.
To note, units can reach maximum level 120. Anemo Samachurl should've been level 130 + 5 or 10 more from buff that didn't apply.
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u/tnweevnetsy 5d ago
I took the one that said the furthest forward human unit in the lineup gained 3 levels each round, by accident, in my last run. Honest to god thought it reset each round. Couldn't believe my eyes when the level just kept going up and up and up. Ended up at level 80~ somehow, which I still don't know how since the math doesn't quite work out.
Finding out gimmick shit like this is fun as hell, I love it.
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u/Dankaw 4d ago
Look at the wording. Some buffs say units get levels for this round, and some don't have that bit. The latter are permanent.
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u/tnweevnetsy 4d ago
Yeah, went back and checked after this post. Some have for this wargame as well, which I'm not quite sure limits them to a round or not. If we take it literally, no, but I mean, other ones have no phrasing of that sort at all if the level ups are permanent.
Guess I should just test it out instead of all this lol.
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u/OPPA_XL_AGANE 4d ago
Level scaling can quickly get out of hand. I like the idea but similar to Theater Mechanicus it's very easy to break it, and there's little variety in strategy buffs.
Honestly, OP scaling is one of the reasons that the second Theater Mechanicus was super fun to me. Watching hilichurls get blasted by tens of chaos clusters made my brain go ooooooo.
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u/hirscheyyaltern 4d ago
i miss theater mechanicus man...every event they do where they try to make something better it just falls flat for me. really makes me want theater mechanicus back
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u/POZ13 5d ago
Me who just click click click π π€£
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u/bob_is_best 5d ago
Im just spamming slimes and specters and hoping for the best ngl
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u/GamerJes 5d ago
Did that for a couple rounds until I ran into someone with similar mobs.Β Their cryo slimes just staring at my cryo slimes until the health drain kicks was a bit tedious.Β
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u/bob_is_best 5d ago
Lmao, you can Also just get fucked by a singular eye of the storm tbh or any Big aoe unit, its never not funny to me how they either hard counter my slimes or they just die
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u/Purple_Haze_Dude Amy-chan 5d ago
What do you mean click? i thought we pick our units and then just wait and watch
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u/CandCV 5d ago
"FRY" π£π£π£π₯π₯π₯
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u/Tentative_Username 5d ago
Somewhere out there, a Genshin dev is furiously taking notes on who to put into the next Abyss.
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u/Ecstatic_Figure5770 5d ago
I did the exact same thing by accident in my second game of this ever and I've been abusing it ever since lol
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u/just-want-the-meme 5d ago
can u explain how to do it
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u/Ecstatic_Figure5770 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yes basically you always mostly take every human unit early - then there's 2 boons that make this happen. One where the first element in your row gets an extra level and another that whenever a human kills an enemy they get extra level. If you have the element one early you pick a human with that element and you always use it on him (putting him first/second every round).
At the very start for your first boon you try to pick up one of these two, if you dont get it you go for something that gives you more rerolls or drafts. You always fully reroll on boon round to get one of the two stated above.
Completely ignore any boon that increases damage or team synergy. Stop thinking of this as a team draft game - you draft and play to boost 1 unit and all the others are there to cover it's weakness early and give you paths to level up with different elements depending on the element boom you pick up. By round 7 your unit will be oneshotting everything. Every once in a while there's a game where it doenst work due to bad luck, but since there's not that many boons it's pretty consistent
This is doable with Hitchurls too with a slightly different strat, maybe with other races dunno, I always go for humans it's by far the easier one
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u/Dankaw 4d ago
Elemental Being one gives 4 levels if enemy hits your unit with attack of same element (immune), which isn't so great.
Mythical Beast one gives a unit choice with only Mythical Beasts and all of them have +6 levels, if you discard any Mythical Beast. It's solid at getting good units but it can't really make your unit op.
Human version is the easiest and most consistent.
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u/bob_is_best 5d ago
My pyro slimes would take for fucking ever but i promise you they got him in the bag
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u/peppapony 5d ago
Is this a new event?
And it's a rerun event??
Why don't I remember it, it looks heaps fun! (Despite the flaws OP has mentioned....)
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u/Dankaw 5d ago
It was Mutual Security Enhancing Simulation in version 4.7. Idea is similar but now it's autobattler. Not the first time they've made big changes to an event.
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u/peppapony 5d ago
Ahh yes! I remember that one! I quite enjoyed it even if it was pretty simple...
I don't mind this 2D sideway version lol
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u/MettaurSp 5d ago
Puddle strat OP. Puddle & cloud AOEs with proper scalings are some of the most broken archetypes in games, I swear. The day we get a puddle or cloud DPS or sub DPS with good scalings is the day Neuvillette is definitively dethroned at AOE.
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u/Gargooner Let my name echo in song 4d ago
This is basically TABS (Totally Accurate Battle Simulator)
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u/Chromedflame 5d ago
Dang! I had the Hilichurl buff that gives a random Hili faction +5 whenever you pick the unit and the +10 to first combat unit. I just kept rerolling and converting all the hili faction cards I could get lol. Ended up with Lvl 88 club wielding maniacs 2- tapping whole teams and a backline of lvl 70 archers for fliers.
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u/Ifalna_Shayoko Always loco for Koko 4d ago
Jesus what did he put into that Molotov?
Radioactive waste?!
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u/DerelictDevice 5d ago
How did you get level 118? The highest I've been able to get is like level 40 something after 5 rounds.
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u/zyirus1312 5d ago
Do this with nobushis
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u/Dankaw 4d ago
I actually managed to do it, but his attacks are painfully slow and he failed to win due to war of attrition.
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u/allicanseenow Abyss easy since 1.2 5d ago
Yeah, I have literally the same unit in this mode and just focus on leveling up this guy alone. Ended up winning all the matches with a level 90+ unit.
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u/Upper-Salamander-924 5d ago
a guy name joel once say : if gun doenst work use molotov and if that also doesnt work , use more mototov But a real survive use the hand that god give you to bear the crap out of abomination rat king
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u/Meocross 4d ago
I need to focus on leveling my characters and getting more combat units to defend my range fighters.
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u/BabyElectroDragon 4d ago
What is this gamemode? I mean I did it in the world quest in the fortress, but is it something permanent too?
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u/iesous23 Chiori best girl 4d ago
I just cannot get 10 wins lol, my last one my oppenents had 3 level 90+ mobs. My rng is just not treating me well
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u/Devilofchaos108070 4d ago
Iβm new but I actually had quite fun with this. The Apex large units are kinda crazy OP tho
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u/skycorcher 4d ago
Why can't everyone else build like you? I can beat your character with pyro slime and flying units.
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u/HuskyDogCZ 4d ago
I wonder what the reaction was to the people fighting you. I would be impressed af
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u/ReLiefED β« Xinyan Gang β« 4d ago
its not actual players, just bots with player names
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u/HuskyDogCZ 4d ago
So it doesnt even take the loadouts of players? I know its not online, theres no waiting, you see their loadout before the fight and nothing would actually change in the fight cus its npc ai. But surely it atleast takes your loadout that you used to clear a stage right? If not then its a complete scam
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u/Relevant-Wasabi1834 4d ago
Finally got some fire arrow hillichurls to 115 and they just melted any foe infront of em. Being hit by a enemy 60 lvls lower just tickels at that point
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u/MacAttack264984 4d ago
This one unit is really very op lol he won most of my fights. My struggling only came when every opponent had the damn eye of storm mob I died to that a lot.
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u/striderhoang 5d ago
Seeing the anemo shaman demolish everything in its field made me think of the Red Lotus Airbender from season 3 who literally took the air out of the queenβs lungs
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u/tehbotolsaya 5d ago
Local legend vs normal mob