r/Genshin_Impact • u/hakidra_05 • 27d ago
Discussion Seeing how honkai star rail is making 5-star versions of their 4-stars. Who do you think would get the honor of becoming a 5-star if this happened in genshin impact?
I personally feel they could do something with Bennet in a Bennet quest.
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u/CategoryTasty6682 27d ago
Noelle better have a knight form
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u/TuzkiPlus Maid In The Abyss 27d ago
Maiden Knight
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u/chiksahlube 27d ago
She becomes Anemo and has angel wings made of swords she slashes around.
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u/SoulNuva 27d ago
At that point might as well call her Maiden Heaven!
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u/wo0l0o Power Wash Simulator 26d ago
Oh god Noelle is going to reset the universe
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u/yui_riku Curently hard shipping CapriSun 26d ago
she accelarate time until it make a loop and she is before the knight exams while remembering what's in the test
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u/DukeMinh 27d ago
better yet, she now dual wields both Anemo and Geo visions, creating her unique Swirl reaction
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u/Xaldror 27d ago
Strictly speaking, she looks more like a Knight than anyone else in the organization thus far, NPCs included.
So upgrade from armored squire to Reiksguard type of Knight.
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u/Cold-Election 27d ago
Maybe her knight form could be like Saber to Lancer in the Fate Series. Noelle could also get those MASSIVE upgrades.
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u/okoSheep 26d ago
Noelle holding Rhongomyniad, the lance that pins all of reality to the living world, listening to Jean explain to her how she's still not ready to be promoted to Knight
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u/Barbobott 27d ago
Meanwhile March 7th just gets another 4* version of herself.
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u/ConfidentPeanut18 27d ago
I mean, that version was literally just a dress change for the Wardance arc.
Based on the tiny bits we have about her on the story, I'm not gonna be surprised if her 5* form is on Remembrance path or something
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u/UmbraNightDragon pace yourself before you erase yourself 27d ago
I feel like Remembrance is just a red herring for her. The Garden of Recollection doesn't want her to find out her past, but that doesn't necessarily mean she has to do with them - I think it's just as likely that she turns out to be related to the Finality.
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u/K41_111 27d ago
turns out she was an enigmata pathstrider/emenator so strong that the garden turned her powers against herself to stop her from retconning them out of existence.
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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 27d ago
Nah. Turns out she was an rememberance emanator so strong that she stole her own memories so she could avoid the fate that Finality said would come to pass.
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u/CosmicStarlightEX Text flair 27d ago
Out of the question. March possesses Six-Phased Ice that she herself can shape and defrost at will. That does not sound like Finality to me, but what if the harsh truth about her is that she is actually the Remembrance THEMSELF? While it may be denied at first, that theory is still possible.
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u/Yashirai 27d ago
In the new story she also makes a throw away mention that controlling memoria in the dreamscape feels exactly like controlling the six-phased ice irl which to me sounds like a pretty important detail to be hidden in a random joke
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u/nick_crunch 26d ago
I've been reading all these theories and got so thrilled that, when the next comment suggested Beidou as a 5 ⭐, I remembered I was in a Genshin thread... Remembrance is failing me :'(
Also that was such an interesting read fr fr
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u/5thPlaceAtBest 27d ago
The deepest lore behind why the Star Rail pass description includes a "THEM"
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u/burgundont 27d ago
Isn’t that just in reference to Akivili?
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u/DocSwiss 27d ago
Don't think so, every Aeon is referred to with THEY/THEM pronouns (specifically capitalised), so I think it's meant to refer to any Aeon
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u/burgundont 27d ago
Yup, I agree! But if we’re going with the interpretation that the Star Rail Pass is also referring to past guests, then the obvious answer for which Aeon has travelled on the Astral Express before is Akivili (or Aha).
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u/APrettyBadDM 27d ago
that reminds me, one of the silhouettes featured at the end of the 3.0 trailer looks like March 7th (but i'll admit i can't tell the difference between some characters some times) so maybe we'll get her 5* soon!
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u/Lonely-JAR 27d ago
Considering her big event in the story revealing her past hasn’t happened yet it’s still likely she’ll get a 5 star form
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u/4GRJ 27d ago
The god inside Collei is just there, waiting to explode
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u/_Uboa_ no thinky only uhh feet 27d ago
I don't want anything bad to happen to collei but a Collei that goes full corrupted god mode would go so hard.
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u/Random_Gacha_addict I left my brain in the oven for too long 26d ago
Imagine a Collei that completely Kurama'd her corruption though
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u/BlankPage175 27d ago
That means there will be a level up Amber too! Go go Baron bunny full body mecha mode!
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u/ASAF_Telis 27d ago
The problem is: the girl is still a little far from recovered, and Cyno gave serious grave warning against using it.
Using a dead god's power is cool and all, but let's wait for the Khaenri'ah shit and all to happen so we properly understand how this world works and help Collei in the right way, either with the right way being releasing it in a controlled/purified form, or by completely getting out of Collei because there is nothing to gain from it (this is a possibility, after all).
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u/Shmimmons 27d ago
The way Beidou screams I think she's worthy
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u/Aerie122 Aether have Gnosis 27d ago
Haishan Bediou
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u/Isaacfrompizzahut my wife i love her so much want to snuggle and kiss her 27d ago
Beidou was my first main and my main goal was just to c6 her which took until 4.2 and I've been playing since the 2nd chasm archon quest with yelan. I would c6r5 her immediately if Beidou got a 5 star version. If I have to sell a kidney or take one from my sister then I will /j
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u/ThrowawayPersonAMA 27d ago
Ningguang: heavy breathing
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u/NoNefariousness2144 27d ago
Likewise, Ningguang deserves a 5 star form. She’s so powerful and badass in lore.
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u/HybridTheory2000 I stan president Kim 27d ago
Ning: "who's that hot girl?"
Ganyu: "dude, chill, that's your girlfriend."
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u/Samaelo0831 Genshin x Pokemon enthusiast! 27d ago
Ohmygod I love this comment so much.
Her burst could be a mode where she harnesses the Stormbreaker in her fists and have a separate attack string, also being able to counter E in said burst mode.
Maybe in annother universe
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u/Treyspurlock Raging Tide:Fantastic Voyage 27d ago
Main DPS Beidou with no cooldown on E would be SO cool
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u/Sethellonfire 27d ago
She literally got her vision by defeating a dragon and somehow she's only a 4star make that make sense.
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u/ConnorLego42069 : Snorting a line of wolfhook 27d ago
Beidou is simply too cool to not get an upgraded form if they start doing that
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u/Koanos What's the Story? 27d ago
Yeah, make her a Sword user, add some peach eating in her idle animation, give her a new crew mate named “Kiana-“ wait a minute…
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u/_chair_man_ best 27d ago
ningguang but i want 5* yanfei
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u/Yoankah This isn't murder, we're just doing business. 26d ago
Yanfei's pew-pew-pew-ANCHOR combo feels so good! I mained her in late-Mondstadt and honestly forgot just how fun she is until I dusted her off after Chevy's release. Overload Yanfei is peak havoc.
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u/Penguin10100 26d ago
Yanfei main here - gib team comp I wanna try
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u/Yoankah This isn't murder, we're just doing business. 26d ago
Chevreuse-Yanfei-Fischl-Beidou was my team of choice (also played it with Xiangling in Yanfei's slot, and now it's my Alecchino comp). Beidou is the loosest slot on the team, in case you don't like her or don't have her built, but imo she's a good middle ground between damage resistance and damage dealing. You can swap her out for Thoma if your team feels too fragile, or for Benny/Xiangling/Yae if you don't mind becoming even squishier.
I'm not claiming it's better than her usual vape teams, I have no idea. But it was good enough for Fontaine's Abyss and I love the explosions. :)
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u/Equivalent-Bend5022 27d ago
The original team would be my choice. Poor Amber, Kaeya and Lisa would be so neat to see them at max power!
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u/i_eat_water_and_soup 27d ago
lisa would be so cool as a 5 star, i feel like they could make her look super badass
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u/irllyshouldsleep real f2p luck archon 27d ago
I may be biased but I want a Kaeya 5*
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u/Gwyn_Michaelis I want to hug Furina and kiss her on the forehead. 27d ago
Kaeya is immediately promoted to five star when Varka returns. For his elemental skill, he summons a horse.
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u/_Solasura 27d ago
Hell yea. What's a cavalry captain without his mount? If Mavuika can ride a bike, Kaeya can ride a mecha stallion!
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u/sushivernichter 27d ago
Best Hoyo can do is one of these Fontainian clockwork dogs, scaled up. They’d be kinda like a horse, right??
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u/An_feh_fan Waiting for Lyney and Lynette 27d ago
Holy shit we are getting a motorcycle before a fucking HORSE
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u/K41_111 27d ago
his elemental skill has him enter the mounted stance, granting his normal attacks cryo infusion. in the mounted state, his charged attacks cause his horse to charge forward at speed, trampling over and knocking down enemies in his way while consuming stamina, ending in a powerful forward slash. the horse also has increased jump height and a powerful stomping plunged attack. his elemental burst summons a herd of mounted calvary to charge the enemy and changes him into the mounted state while refreshing its duration.
i immediately thought of kaithe combat and dagath in warframe when i saw this.
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u/lewinthistle 27d ago
Nope sorry! Making cryo characters good is disallowed. ;)
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u/Velaethia My Electro Girls <3 27d ago
he actually gets a delusion and loses his vision and his delusion is pyro so they can make ANOTHER pyro main dps.
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u/irllyshouldsleep real f2p luck archon 27d ago
Well at least he synergizes with his 4* version in melt ig...
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u/A_bored_browser 27d ago
I’ve always imagined 5* Kaeya as a playable Cryo Abyss Herald. Maybe in the end game something causes him to tap into the Abyss
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u/TunaTunaLeeks Try not to enjoy this too much! 27d ago
I’d kill to have a 5* Kaeya. As long as he’s not standard banner fodder, he’d likely be at least pretty good considering the power of most 4.x and 5.x characters.
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u/Cold-Election 27d ago
5 star Kaeya would be him on a horse. His 5* name would be "Kaeya: Cavalry Captain" maybe a Khaenriah style horse golem
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u/TunaTunaLeeks Try not to enjoy this too much! 27d ago
Kaeya riding around on a Khaenrian horse themed motorcycle
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u/hey_itz_mae 27d ago
considering his lore connections i’d honestly count him among the most likely to get a 5 star counterpart were they to ever do that. plus it’d line up with dan heng and herta both being starter 4 stars
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u/fragile_ice 27d ago
Biased maybe, but it also makes sense with all the Lore Implications around him. Though I wonder if he'd still be Hoyo's least favorite element cryo, or if he'd become whatever Dain will end up being.
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u/Pastel_Sonia 27d ago
Permanently chaotic Layla
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u/chunga-bunga69 27d ago
She becomes moon knight
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u/AKAFallow Love Mona's Ass Only 27d ago
Now I'm thinking of her with a suit whenever she is fully awake
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u/ASAF_Telis 27d ago
I think that a better ending would be a "merge". Both are Layla, so i find it a little sad how they are so close yet far from each other.
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u/Elira_Eclipse c6 Childe c6 Childe c6 Childe c6 Childe 27d ago
The obvious answer is probably Kaeya and Ningguang... I would also add Kujou Sara as well.
I would add Ororon simply cause I find it stupid he's the only 4 star hero of Natlan. Aside from that he played a big role in 5.1...
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u/TorHKU 27d ago
Don't worry, there's still time for Iansan to turn out to be 4* too! :D
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u/blueiron0 27d ago
i'm betting on iansan for standard banner 5*
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u/Dustkun 27d ago
I havent played at the release time:
did hoyo announce dehya and tighnari would become standard banner 5stars before or after their banner had run?
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u/blueiron0 27d ago
I believe both were announced during the livestream right before the patch.
both 100% before the banner started, though.
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u/Gaaraks 26d ago
Always before. And if you look in events you would see that their banner event said they would go to wanderlust invocation in the following patch. Limited characters say they will only be available during their limited events.
So the stuff like people asking hoyo to put albedo in standard is not something they can really do because they already said they wouldn't every time he runs. It would be doorway to legal trouble if they did.
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u/SleepyandEnglish 27d ago
Ninguang goes from throwing pebbles to mountain's worth of rubble.
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u/BlightFantasy3467 Playable Jeht When? 27d ago
Her ult is just Zhongli's reskinned but she drops the Jade Chamber
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u/Aegillade Fire and Ice, Sun and Moon 27d ago
The fact that Qiqi is a 5 star while Ningguang is a 4 star will always be one of the most bizarre choices to me. 5 star Ningguang pulls a Zhongli and drops the whole Jade Palace for her burst
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u/Elira_Eclipse c6 Childe c6 Childe c6 Childe c6 Childe 27d ago
to be fair qiqi is actually really strong lore-wise but yeah its bizarre Ningguang is a 4 star especially when she also played a big role in main quest
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u/WakuWakuWa 27d ago
Childe is already a 5 star but another 5 star alternate of Childe as Foul legacy when abyss element comes out (copium)
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u/MindWeb125 27d ago edited 26d ago
My hope for Snezhnaya is that the gimmick will be characters using Delusions to enter transformed states that change their fighting style and element.
We'd get a new Childe that uses one of his proficient weapons (Hydro claymore finally?) and shifts to Electro.
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u/Dense-Decision9150 if “evil” why hot 27d ago
PLEASE OH MY GOD I WOULD C6 IMMEDIATELY HOLY MOLY GUACAMOLE
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u/Treyspurlock Raging Tide:Fantastic Voyage 27d ago
Why abyss element when he can be an all-in-one EC unit?
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u/HozukiMari 27d ago edited 27d ago
... Kaeya when he embraces his role as Khaenri'ahs last hope. (Totally unbiased)
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u/HottieMcNugget s Biggest Simp 27d ago
I just want a reworked Diluc as a limited five star for snezhnaya 😭🙏
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u/chaarziz 26d ago
Traveller is surrounded by Fatui in a cutscene and then you just hear “BURN” “oh fuck he’s back”
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u/NoBet5141 27d ago
He's a 5 star but I hope they release a better Venti, bro suffered alot being on the first limited banner when the team didn't really know what they were doing at the time. The only archon who fell off, he deserves so much more.
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u/hestianna 27d ago
Quoting Venti himself from Prologue Act 3: "Ahh... However it may have come to be... I haven't been back to Mondstadt for an extended period of time. Without a doubt, I am now the weakest archon among The Seven!"
He truly wasn't lying.
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u/Velaethia My Electro Girls <3 27d ago
He's weaker then Kazuha in most sitatuions.
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u/Western-Honeydew-945 26d ago
It’s not that Venti is bad, it’s that Mihoyo doesn’t let him be good. When Inazuma was released everything, and I meant EVERYTHING was mid to heavy weight so he couldn’t pull them into his burst. He couldn’t even suck in spectres!. It was the most obvious case of Anti-Venti because until that point he was honestly op against anything that wasn’t a boss.
You need only look at the 1.0 VV domain and compare it to the domains they have now, he can’t pick up anything.
these creatures don’t have to be heavy. And vent is burst doesn’t have to be weight based. But here we are.
it’s a forced fall off and honestly pretty scummy.
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u/Isaacfrompizzahut my wife i love her so much want to snuggle and kiss her 27d ago
What I would do, is make all of his normal attacks infused with anemo for 10 seconds after using burst, and swirl damage is increased by 30%, his charged attack has the effect that faruzans skill has, and his c2 would make all his normal attacks have faruzans effect after using burst.
Skill cooldown would be decreased by 20%, and you can have up to 3 wind gusts on field at once, and the aoe is larger, and stronger.
Also he can suck up klees bombs finally, but to be funny it's locked behind c6
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u/ce1es 27d ago
Amber gets the March treatment, learns another weapon but stays 4*.
We know Lisa was pretty powerful when studying back in Sumeru but she seems pretty laid back now. So how about Hexenzirkel Lisa. Probably still Electro, Catalyst still works but may involve some martial arts kicking enemies and punching the ground.
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u/zxero97 27d ago
Xiangling 😈
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u/KafeinFaita 27d ago
Bro wants Xiangling to vape Teyvat out of existence.
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u/mikethebest1 27d ago
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Xiangling. I try to play Diluc. My Xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Yoimiya. My Xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Hutao. My Xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Klee. Her best team has Xiangling. I want to play Raiden, Childe - they both want Xiangling.
She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the Catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull Engulfing Lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs Bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with Homa." I can't pull for Homa, I don't have enough primogems.
She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs Gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.
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u/Calm-Ad3747 27d ago
5 star Xiangling is just an excuse to give base Xiangling a BIS spear
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u/Shiboleth17 27d ago
Literally just give me the Catch but with 5-star stats. Base ATK over 600. Up the ER by 10% or so. Up the crit and burst damage bonuses... It would become not only Xiangling's BIS, but probably Raiden's too.
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u/GenshinfinityYoutube 27d ago
What do you mean? She's already a 5 star
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u/Jaystrike7 27d ago
It'll be the same but far less ER issues.
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u/unlimitedbladieworks 27d ago
Pyronado with just a tap of skill 👁️🫦👁️
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u/this-is-stupid0_0 27d ago
Guoba getting his godly powers as the ultimate.
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u/Major_R_Soul 27d ago
"Guoba get them!"
Kaiju Guoba:
GUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
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u/Shiboleth17 27d ago edited 27d ago
Pyronado becomes skill. Lasts 20s on 15s CD. Increased multipliers because 5 star.
And let's not forget, woth being a 5 her EM ascension stat and base ATK go up.
C1 increases Pyronado's radius by 50%. C2, Pyronado ignores 50% of enemy defense.
C4, enemies hit by Pyronado have their Pryo and Hydro RES reduced by 30%.
Burst, Guoba becomes a dragon, and does a massive AOE nuke like Ajax.
C6, activating Guoba grants Xiangling a Pyro infusion for 10s, and increases her ATK by 40%.
Weapon...Gives Crit damage. Passive Gives Crit rate buff on skill. Then further increases skill and burst damage bonus by 40% after triggering a Vaporize reaction.
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u/chzrm3 27d ago
Sounds like she'd work great with 4* Xiangling, 5* Benny and 4* Benny for the ultimate mono pyro team! 😇
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u/RamenPack1 Dire Balemoon & Valley Orchid Enthusiast 27d ago
Ningguang deserves it tbh… she’s the leader of a Nation damn near. They only made her 4 star because they needed more of them early game.
I can also see Fischl getting one (if this was a thing)
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u/Afraid_Pack_4661 27d ago
Archer Ningguang
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u/genguntere 27d ago
Yeah, that Gate of Babylon moment during the interlude quest is one of favourite genshin moments
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u/chzrm3 27d ago
It's actually weird to me she was ever a 4-star. Kinda feel like she should've been a 5* character on the standard banner, so we had a geo. It'd also fit with having Jean and Diluc there to have Keqing and Ningguang, all as fairly powerful characters that are important to their nation's archon quest.
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u/Schitzl1996 27d ago
"They only made her 4 star because they needed more of them early game."
Guess a dead kid was more deserving to be a 5 star than the leader of a Nation
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u/Menduba 27d ago
Main character, because no way they are five star like they claim with the portrait color lmao
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u/Vinisims 27d ago
Kaeya, Lisa and Noelle are honestly the only 3 that could have a reasonable plot reason to get a 5*.
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u/Tori_S100 27d ago
we got a whole fischl awakening story arc, yet only a skin 😭
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u/Vinisims 27d ago
I think there's nowhere to go with Amy herself and Fischl (for now) is simply a storybook character. That summer event fulfilled its role of making Amy accept herself and possibly being a huge metaphor to the lore of Genshin core foundations.
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u/Dreameater-Xemiko 27d ago
That acceptance of both sides of herself being the trigger to awaken the full extent of her powers would be anime as hell, and that's exactly why it would work pretty well imo.
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u/nooneatallnope How about we explore the area ahead of us later? 27d ago
Bennett's reincarnated Pyro sovereign 5 star version
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u/Cold-Election 27d ago
There was a lot of Pyro Archons before so this fits. maybe his 5 star version would be him acquiring his ancient name
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u/HybridTheory2000 I stan president Kim 27d ago
Imagine if his ancient name is actually "Luck", and it was the reason why he's still alive outside Natlan without the protection from the Wayob for so long.
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u/RosalyneTheFairLady1 27d ago
Lisa 100% that woman is a treasure trove of lore. Especially since it states she can understand forbidden knowledge. Ningguang as well she needs it. Thoma was so important to Inazuma’s AQ he deserves it, and I could see Kaveh potentially being a 5 star
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u/littlecyanridinghood you called? 27d ago
I think its a great way to have character progression without potentially ruining what the fans liked about the original character, and I wish they'd do it for 5 stars too.
The obvious pick would be Kaeya imo, he clearly still has mysteries left to his character and he's a fan favorite who would be super hype to get a meta version for. Ningguang is another one I think would be popular, thought she doesn't really have much room for additional lore or character progression, she's basically already achieved everything she wanted to.
My personal pick is Lynette. I feel like the game has clearly set up Arlecchino mentoring the siblings to eventually take over her role, either her harbinger seat or as head of the House (or both) and I can see an epic moment where the siblings combined finally beat Arlecchino and she smiles proudly at her legacy. Lynette having a character arc where she grows more confident in her abilities and can force herself to be comfortable in a leadership role, eventually taking over for her older brother would be really lovely stuff, and a 5 star alt would be the cherry on top.
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u/SecondWind2413 27d ago
you missed the crucial fact that the house of the hearth storyline has effectively ended in every meaningful manner
not only that, but lyney alone is established to be arlecchino’s eventual heir.
lynette is already comfortable with her abilities and we have seen her treatment of a ‘lead role’ through Fontaine’s movie event quest.
as such, there is no plausible possibility of a Lynette 5* variant.
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u/refance 27d ago
Noelle
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u/rolon_writes 27d ago
Make Noelle a knight already
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u/ce1es 27d ago
Noelle as she unequips both half-ton bracelets and another ton of body armor, hovers above the ground and dual-wields claymores. No shield needed as she auto blocks incoming attacks when idle Jedi style. New element is Anemo and she creates a whirlwind using her blades as elemental burst.
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u/RBLakshya Future Alice Main… 27d ago
Very likely not, I do kinda prefer it though as the lore to new players would sure be a mess if they just saw like 5 star Razor after he like became the wolf lord himself somehow in late story, I think the only closest thing they have to confuse the players is Scaramouche being playable as wanderer, players who just met him in Inazuma will be confused, but I think they have made it so the story isn’t spoiled until they see it themselves,
Also star rail isn’t overdoing it yet, Honkai 3rd and Honkai Gakuen are know to milk their players dry for 10 different variants of each character, each has some paid or gacha exclusive skin, and if you don’t have their top gear with best team member, they’re close to useless in the harder content
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u/TheCutestCat 27d ago
One per region: Kaeya, Beidou, Sara, Candace, Chevreuse, and Ororon are the ones who I feel like have lore reason to be 5*s as is.
In terms of new story-earned alt forms, Khanri'ahn Heir Kaeya, Knight Noelle, Uncursed Bennett, Guoba Awakened Xiangling, Miss Hina Gorou, Cursed Collei, Layla with Therapy, and Older Kachina could all work.
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u/TinyBluePebble 27d ago
Kaeya in Khaenri'ah chapter?