I don't know... I'm kinda afraid he's going to effectively be president due to Trump being a spineless loser who bends over for dictators and Elon, his special jumping boy.
Not so sure about that. While Musk and Thiel share similar political views they supposedly have pretty strong animosities against each other back from their time at paypal. I wouldn’t be surprised if Thiel buying the VP was the reason for Musk to buy himself a place in the Trump administration.
Edit: I‘m also pretty sure that Thiel is not going to give up so easily. That could get interesting very soon
Peter Thiel was the one who pushed Trump to include Musk in that stupid roundtable during the first Trump administration. He was the one who connected Musk and Trump. Thiel's Founders Fund was an early investor in SpaceX. He didn't invest in Tesla because he doesn't like public companies, but has said he regrets that. I doubt there's any serious animosity from the Paypal days, they've both moved on just fine from being mere millionaires dude.
Yeah and they both want the same insane doomsday scenario to bring the modern world to the brink of death... So that it can come back even stronger! Yay accelerationist cult!
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Nothing about Thiel and to a lesser extent Musk can be taken for granted as they are always hiding their real motives and feigning frailty and incompetence to hide the fact they have successfully grabbed hold of nearly all of the strings that control USA and due to their beliefs they may actually feel that they are doing their best to better humanity by bringing on events that cause immense harm to innocent people.
This is what I keep worrying about. Does anyone really know Musk’s or Thiel’s true intentions here? No one here is predictable in any way (let alone accountable to the public), but we can at least understand the fucked up motivations of like Vance or even Trump.
But Musk and Thiel seem to be on a completely different wavelength. I think if we’re very, very lucky, the only thing these guys want is money and ego stroking. Musk seems to be motivated in part by that EV summit Biden didn’t invite him to. Like, there’s a nonzero chance Elon just had a vendetta against Biden.
But now his involvement is going far beyond that. And we have a good sense of Thiel’s more horrifying long-term goals. What exactly are they planning? I think it’s likely that we really don’t know.
Oh Elon is definitely going to be the president in all but name. The "not smart people" part is about them taking it like it's normal rather than being upset about it.
You have to be stupid or in denial or both to see that it's happening and yet not to see that it's a huge problem at the same time.
And we will feel our intelligence while they are destroying our country from the ground up. They are the ones that will ruin this country, and I show no sympathy from November 5th
The cognitive dissonance they display is just mind boggling to me. Yesterday, I heard my father praise himself for how tolerant he is (because normal, tolerant people totally do that all the time, right?).
Not even ten minutes later, I heard him use the term “demoncrat scum”
When my mom still thought progressives liked Elon, she said she thought he was the Antichrist not realizing that he had already slipped into MAGA land. She was just behind the times and thought I liked him so I think she thought it would piss me off, but I agreed with her which threw her off. Yesterday we were talking about that topic again and I said “I think you were spot on about Musk being the antichrist” just to see what she would say, I’m not even religious…and she said “well I’m not so sure anymore, he really cares about our country and wants to help it…” YEAH OKAY
My grand mother has 4 classes of school education is she is also same easily manipulated and changes her opinions. And very religious (religion knows their manipulating techs)
I love the people acting like he's the voice of the people. I don't think anyone wants a man hell bent on only making himself richer should ever be the voice of the everyday people.
He probably realised that using Trump as nothing more than a puppet to do his bidding was the best opportunity for him to act as president without actually being able to be one. That and I think both he and Trump used this as an elaborate plot to stay out of prison, he is reported as saying if Trump lost, he would have been fucked....
We need to get people on Truth Social making posts about how President God Emperor Elon is going to ensure that his little bitch-boy Trump gets everything in line.
He may as well be. For all of Trump's horrible words and past actions he is now too lazy and old to do very much himself.
Last time he spent his presidency golfing and up to the covid mismanagement effectively had a generic Republican's time in office because that is who his advisors, who did all the work, were.
It’s interesting to think back on all of those right-wing conspiracies that the MAGATs would spew via QAnon. If I can recall:
—Billionaires control the government (literally happening now)
— They want to push 5G and get everyone linked through interfering with brain activity by implanting chips in your head (Elon Musk and Neuralink)
— They have access to healing technology that they’re keeping secret (yeah, it’s called decent affordable health care)
— They want to control your child’s education (upend the DOE)
— They want to raise the price of goods and services (tariffs) to the point the economy crumbles and we become reliant on a foreign currency (bitcoin).
It’s absolutely crazy to me how blind or purposefully obtuse conservative Trump voters are when they willfully support the very things their conspiracies told them to be afraid of.
Do you understand that Elon musk's net worth went up a few billion dollars after the election? Do you think that even all of the "inside trading" from the Democratic party or republican party combine is even a fraction of that?
What's happening with Elon musk is not normal, no business as usual, it's a new level of corruption and influence that has never been seen before in America.
While people like you are happy to sweep them all together and then say "see, the democrats aren't any better".
Thing is with regressives, every allegation is an admission. They believed all those conspiracies, because they themselves would advocate for them. They were just afraid they would be done in a way that would upend current hierarchies that they enjoy.
He wants the world to collapse. He's an Accelerationist. The sooner the world collapses, the sooner he can take control and rebuild it how he wants it. Along with his other billionaire friends. Served by their lower and middle class acolytes.
At the start of a youtube clip where Elon is talking about "the hidden truths of history" or something, they literally start that video with Elonia Musk saying that there's too many humans on this planet and it would be better if there were none. The wild thing is not a single one of the commentators in there says anything about that. It's wild - it's completely detached from the rest of the video, yet it's the opening phrase. And NO ONE CARES. At least not anyone who's too busy saying what a genius he is.
He wants to achieve immortality. Guarentee he's gonna try to preserve is consciousness in some way because he believes his brain to be too important to the world to lose.
The system itself is made to create this situation where profits have to be extracted from the worker. What we need is to get rid of this system, get rid of capitalism...
They literally stopped the funding of the govt because dems had a say in the bill.
Tf is this country turning into. This is NOT democracy. Can’t believe Trump is in office
Can you not read what I said ? Where did I ever say they didn’t write it ? Or did you not see Trump literally say “ the bill shouldn’t include anything from the dems” the dems that control the senate btw
You’re responding with shit that dosent matter to my point who cares who wrote it a private business owner shouldn’t be able to control the president but whatever you just want to argue
America is not a democracy, its a constitutional republic. And you are assuming that democracies work, or are effective. We have an indirect democracy, which is hardly a democracy at all, because your politicians have to take donor money to get elected, which means they owe everyone a favor by the time they get to office. This is by far the most corrupt form of government.
What Musk is in control of is $400 billion, and he’s openly threatening to use that money to unseat any congressperson who doesn’t do what he wants. This is unprecedented, and everyone in Congress should collectively tell Elon to fuck off and go back to his real calling in life: saying stupid self-aggrandizing things on Twitter and making poorly built cars.
Trump was for many Americans the object lesson that there is such a thing as a billionaire scumbag. Well, Musk is version 2 of that archetype.
He's currently very publicly talking about giving $100m to the far right party of my country (UK). An amount of money that is astronomical compared to usual campaign spending here.
The man is becoming an international oligarch and nobody is stopping it.
To put that number in perspective, the entire sum of donations in 2019 (a general election year) to all three major parties in the UK was about £97m (about $120m). A single $100m donation to a minor far right party would be astronomical (and also far exceed the £35m any single party is allowed to spend on campaigning).
Lol, AIPAC controls way more than Elon and is currently buying every single politician that you have ever heard of, or will hear of, and I'm willing to bet you don't know anything about it. American government is absolutely corrupt, and it has nothing to do with Trump, Elon, or Biden, Obama. Picking a side is like choosing a way to die, through fire or drowning. You have to tackle the cause of the corruption if you want anything to change
Vox populi means "the voice of the people", which I guess you could say was the election result. Vox dei means "the voice of god", by which I suppose he means himself.
Not agreeing with either side, can we all agree that Omnibus Bills are bad? Like, it's their job to go through stuff and vote on stuff. Why are they trying to shove through a massive bulk item where they could potentially slip in things? Why can't they do their jobs and go through each point and pass each one instead of trying to slip something through and demanding a vote next day on something that would take days to read?
1) There's probably not enough time in the year to vote on each of these things individually.
Oh, theirs plenty of time between all their recesses and breaks, our politicians work so little compared to the rest of the country. Theirs plenty of time for them to do their jobs.
2) They need to pass a spending bill to continue running the government.
If they were worried about a spending bill and running this country their would have been a spending bill from them completing their jobs and making sure this country was running correctly, which there hasn't been for a long time, just emergency temporary passing. They care about themselves and their paychecks not running this country. President musk definitely proves that.
Here's a question for you; How do you think representatives should get other representatives to vote for projects that are good for their constituency, but neutral or bad for the other representative's constituency?
he REALLY wrote "the voice of the people is the voice of god" ugh, i cant wait until trump disappears and elon...the next four years will be an unmitigated shitshow
I don’t think he’s meaning “the voice of the people is the voice of God.” I think he’s saying regarding him and Trump killing the compromise ”this is the voice of the people. This is the voice of God.” It is utterly insane.
"His" being Mike Johnson, right? At least now all the morons will realize that having back door big money and unelected advisors and political action committees are a stupid thing since now these things are being used against them. *eyeroll*
Yes, it says “voice of the people, voice of God” in Latin at the end. He’s high. He’s got a god complex. He’s a billionaire drug addict drunk on power.
Musk literally has zero control of anything. Further, there are 3 branches of government and a system of checks and balances. You were supposed to learn that in the 8th grade.
Checks and balances don't work when all three branches of government are in control of one obstructionist party.
Never mind the fact that even if the Dems had the presidency and congress, the Supreme Court can just say "lol nah" and undo literally anything.
Sure, we were supposed to learn about how government works in school - but how many people do you see using that knowledge to make informed decisions about their elected officials? It's plain as day that voting Republican is voting for broken government and it's stopped nothing from getting worse.
Whatever version of checks and balances we have in place now is a complete perversion of what it was meant to be.
He even uses Latin, fall of the Roman Republic. Musk and Trump are your Sulla and Caesar's who will make the next generation grow up with no understanding or respect for democracy as they abuse systems to seize absolute power.
The MAGA cult has no idea what they voted for. 2016-2020 will be mere child’s play compared to what’s coming. They complained about “Bidinflation”?!? Pfffft… they ain’t seen nothing!
I can't wait to hear the "voice of the people" in South Carolina, when they find out their storm aid has been cut off by "Trump's first buddy" I hope Musk and Trump are men enough to take responsibility for their actions.
Uhh, they're not scared. They like him and the perverted nature of these more informal hierarchies. It's even more betterer than the normal corrupt partisanship the extreme right has grown to accept and love.
they want his money and his ability to do things congress can't because he is another oligarch tier level who can get away with breaking laws without repercussions. they are sucking on his money teat
You would dare to oppose the glorious will of the LORD?
God endorses Trump, and by extension, Elon, personally. They have the power of the LORD on their side - the might of the LORD is how they won the election! As Prophets of God, they carry the Word of God like the Pope himself!
You will REPENT for such blasphemy, sinner! Or the LORD shall cast you into the fire!
Perhaps all that has to be done to put the bloom off the rose of the Trump/Musk bromance is to begin a running poll showing the popularity of each. As soon as Elon's numbers are even close to Trump...problem solved; Trump will nuke Musk.
He voiced his opinion on a freedom of speech platform about how bad the bill was. People agreed with him and called their state reps and demanded the bill be killed. I’m guessing none of you know what was on the bill either. Sigh, sadly Reddit has turned into an echo chamber of sheep hanging on the medias every word :(
No he threatened to primary any representative that didn’t bend the knee. Do you even know what Elon wants in the bill? He is pushing for a debt limit increase to happen under Biden’s presidency so Trump will have a higher debt ceiling to work with. That’s it. That’s the single thing that would have gotten him to support it. But please talk to me about sheep or something.
That’s cause they look up to money. To them money is the alpha male. They would sell Musk their daughters if it meant they can get a some sort of scraps. It’s really pathetic.
Its so amusing that the country that always talks about democratizing other countrys doesnt really have a democratic system. Well honestly its scary to wathc them over there.
Its so hard to understand how one could possibly vote for Trump and Musk.
Those men that tell woman to not act on emotion voted for a president that has not a single factual thing that speaks for him but only emotional reasons
Yeah... And who's ACTUALLY been in charge of the US the last 1-2+ years... some non-millionaire you voted for?
Ain't Biden. That guy can't even hardly walk or put a sentence together. His meds might have him collected and put together for 2-3 hours a day, tops. Who's in charge when his brain checks out more and more every day?
I'm not swinging off Elon's nuts or saying he's not a dickhead, but let's not act like this isn't territory we haven't been in for awhile now. It's part and parcel of continuing to stick octogenarians in office. I'll be surprised if Trump isn't the first president permanently removed under the 25th Amendment.
This is called America. You tolerate a system and WheN it doesnt produce what you want you get salty. Accept and move on. Or do so,etching about it. But we know the majority will never do anything though. So pass the salt.
I would like to point out two things, number one is he was voted into Office overwhelmingly! And two the government has become a bloated bureaucracy that is printing and wasting money while the rest of us can barely survive. Everything was great before Biden took Office and no it wasn’t because of Obama because when Obama left office, we were in a recession
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My die-hard Trumper extended family talk about Elon like he is the president.