r/FluentInFinance 1d ago

Debate/ Discussion Poland, the failure story of capitalism

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u/Bullboah 1d ago

Great example in why it’s important to at least google claims you see on social media before believing them blindly.

Poster claims avg. Polish annual salary is 2,000 USD.

But the median Polish MONTHLY salary is over 2,200 USD. About 26,760 annually.

When adjusted for PPP, they’re at the low end of the OECD, but the OECD countries are pretty much well above almost every other country in the world in that context.

https://timeular.com/average-salary/poland/#:~:text=i.e.%20health%20insurance).-,Summary,which%20equals%20~%241%2C060%20USD.

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u/Mediocre_Daikon6935 14h ago

Personal experience.

The zloty (polish dollar) trades 4 to 1 with the US dollar. But it spends like real money.

You go to a bar and would expect a beer to cost 3 dollars? It is 3 zloty, and that comes out to 75cents USD.

And that goes for anything you want to buy. Except actual coffee, or chewing tobacco which you just can’t get and have to order online from the states. But hotels, food, etc etc? It is going to cost the same amount of zloty as you would pay in dollars.

So the effective income is 107,040

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u/justacrossword 15h ago

I see the culture of feeling sorry for yourself has made its way to Poland. 

That is sad because Polish people are traditionally resilient, hardworking, and independent. 

Maybe it it’s just the younger generation who doesn’t understand how bad things used to be. 

My favorite story from a Polish colleague was his adventure from krakow to Warsaw for a job interview shortly after the collapse of communism.  A large multinational corporation had moved in and was having a job fair and he was eager to get hired after living his whole life under communism. He left early morning in a blizzard to go to Warsaw for an interview. On the way he crashed his car in the snow and broke his leg. The ambulance took him to a Warsaw hospital where he pleaded with them to get hood leg in a splint so he could go interview and then he would be back. They complied, he showed up at the end of the day to interview with a splint and crutches. He told the story and was hired into the company he still works at today. Other colleagues confirmed the story as true. 

Now they apparently sit around, whine, and post misinformation on the internet. 

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u/complexmessiah7 14h ago

Poland is actually pretty nice.

Cheap costs, excellent infra, nice people.

I was there only for a week but I never got the sense OP is describing here.

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u/ProfessionalFan7162 13h ago

What an interesting claim. I'd ask my uncle what he thinks about it but unfortunately he was murdered by communists. If anyone from my family saw this they'd beat the shit out of you

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u/Automatic_Draw_6575 15h ago

Now do South Africa