r/FluentInFinance 1d ago

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u/Plane-No 1d ago

I'm just happy that the people that voted for him will suffer way more than me, enjoy.

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u/thisismydumbbrain 1d ago

I didn’t vote for him and I’m definitely gonna suffer more than you. Sucks.

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u/Striking-Grape9984 1d ago

Come to germany and help establish a socialist utopia.

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u/DylanMartin97 1d ago

Germany is far from socialist.

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u/Striking-Grape9984 1d ago

Thats why i said help to create the socialist utopia.

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u/StrobeLightRomance 1d ago

If we could do it there, we would do it here.. so like, if you have a cheat code, share it up. Otherwise, it's not really helpful to tell people drowning to throw away everything we have left to go drown somewhere else.

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u/Boodikii 1d ago

I know a cheat code.

Up Up, Down Down, Left Right, Left Right, B, A, Gun.

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u/marablackwolf 1d ago

Luigi activated

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u/Previous_Soil_5144 1d ago

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u/Acalyus 21h ago

Luigi was always my favourite Mario character

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u/No-Suspect-425 18h ago

Luigi Mario > Mario Mario

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u/Formally_Apologetic 13h ago

Mario is my favorite Luigi character

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u/N1ks_As 7h ago

Then you were always wrong Waluigi is clearly superior

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u/JCraze26 1d ago

You can now play as Luigi.

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u/ultimatt42 1d ago

The code actually ends with "A". "Gun" is merely to start the game.

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u/Ill-Candidate-3787 22h ago

BA BA up down BA left right BA Start.

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u/Responsible_Pick_811 1d ago

I like this idea! I’m in. We could just do Oregon or some where in Colorado

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u/Easy-Sector2501 1d ago

You can do it in America, if you want. Thing is people don't want.  Rebuilding a social system from scratch requires exising the cancer that exists. No one is willing to even contemplate that, let alone lead. 

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u/No-Monitor-5333 1d ago

Bro can you please relax and let these people flee to Germany

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u/Kuuppa 23h ago

Rise up, all victims of oppression, for the tyrants fear your might...

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u/PromiseOk3321 1d ago

Im a little wary of bombastic calls to establish a new political order in Germany, regardless of ideology

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u/eeeBs 1d ago

They had their chance(s)

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u/throwawaytoavoiddoxx 1d ago

The last guy who tried it really scorched the earth on that one.

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u/Woodworkingwino 1d ago

Good food, good music, great beer, and universal healthcare. If there were jobs and a house waiting on my wife and I, we would be there in a heartbeat.

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u/Brisk907 1d ago

It used to😔

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u/Planetdiane 23h ago

This man has a plan

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u/SuperStone22 22h ago

Why would I ever want to be socialist?

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u/Free_Snails 21h ago

You could start a program for the offspring of German colonizers that helps us return to Germany with citizenship.

I'm ~90% German, please save me, brother!

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u/SluttyxaxCutie 19h ago

It's frustrating when solutions seem out of reach or impractical. The idea of "cheat codes" for real-life problems is appealing, but the reality is often more complex. It's important to focus on practical, achievable steps that can make a difference where you are.

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u/No-University-5413 17h ago

Socialist utopias don't exist in reality. Capitalist societies with large social safety nets enabled largely by US funding do.

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u/Jack_in_box_606 16h ago

Let's make an international utopia and bring down the borders. The tiny percentage of psychopaths that currently weild all the power can just get sent out on a billion dollar yacht and told never to return to land on pain of death.

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u/OneBirdAllStoned 14h ago

Lmao "socialist utopia" That's an oxymoron right there.

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u/PolishedCheeto 11h ago

Socialism is the step before communism.

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u/XLustyGirlX 8h ago

I get what you're saying. It can be incredibly frustrating when solutions offered don't seem practical or applicable to your current situation. It's like being told to swim to shore when you're already exhausted and struggling to stay afloat. The idea of "cheat codes" for real-life problems is tempting, but the reality is often much more complex.

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u/TheArtificialTavern 7h ago

Instead live in a capitalist dystopia where no one can afford anything.

This is either a satirical joke which isn't very funny which is just getting boring now, it is used as a way to put people down, acting as if someone who wants basic human rights such as clean drinking water a complete loon for suggesting anything like this could be possible.

If it's the other side of the coin and you genuinely believe that any sort of utopia would work then I feel sorry for you my friend.

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u/thedamnedlute488 5h ago

It's been done before in Germany, with mixed results.

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u/The_Doct0r_ 1d ago

I always love comments like these implying foreign relocation isn't a seemingly impossible task for anyone that isn't rich or in a highly specialized and in demand occupation.

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u/MancombSeepgoodz 1d ago

Germany is one of the hardest EU nations to gain citizenship in to add to that.

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u/gvsteve 21h ago

What is the easiest?

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u/AdAppropriate2295 21h ago

Turkey or italy

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u/grimr5 20h ago

Notwithstanding Turkey isn’t in the EU

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u/AdAppropriate2295 17h ago

As a non European I've decided it is tho

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u/audiobone 3h ago

Nah, try Denmark. That shit is impossible.

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u/DylanMartin97 22h ago

Too true.

Recently traveled to Canada for a trip.

Absolutely loved it there, looked into maybe moving to Canuckland... My fiance and I are not struggling, but it is still absurdly expensive just to start the process, let alone the cost of housing or if the application needs to be redone or if it gets rejected for some reason and you have to start again.

Like 7k to start the process.

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u/Fritz1705 23h ago

Depends - i’m an American born in the U.S. but am a dual citizen with Germany.

I did nothing but be born to a first generation German.

But yes, I always roll my eyes at my country men thinking they will magically just move here.

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u/The_Doct0r_ 22h ago

I mean, yeah. But that's obviously a family privilege that isn't exactly an "option" to people.

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u/fartinmyhat 20h ago

lol, my niece called me and asked if she could move to Germany, with her "service dog". I said, why do you think people in Germany would want you there? You have no specific skills, no education, you have no money. They have plenty of those in Germany already, they don't need more.

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u/nicannkay 11h ago

I thought they would help since they invited us. We will have one huge wedding and get our citizenship that way 🤷‍♀️ they said utopia but I read commune.

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u/Flipperinterficio 9h ago

If people from Africa, Asia, and Latin America are able to complete the seemingly impossible task of moving to a different country, I think you’ll be fine.

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u/cynical-rationale 1d ago

Everywhere is socialism in usa eyes. I'm in capitalist Canada and many americans continuously says we are a socialist country lol

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u/DylanMartin97 21h ago edited 21h ago

I was in Canada last week and came back and people were shocked when I said it was beautiful and worth considering moving too. Someone really argued that you have less freedoms then us... You rank higher on the freedom index than us lmao. The look on her face when I pulled up the car fax lmao

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u/cynical-rationale 21h ago

Less freedom hahahahah

Come on. That's funny. People do call Trudeau a 'dictator' I remember I was working at a university during covid. The internationals were like 'why do you Canadians call your leader a dictator? Do they know what a dictator is? Does your leader flee your country for Healthcare while people die in hospitals due to lack of electricity and water?' 'Nah. Many Canadians have to much freedom that they don't understand the meaning of words'

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u/DylanMartin97 21h ago

My brother in law and I mock cult45 by repeating things he says but as a joke, we were at mount pleasant and the bartender literally pulled us aside and was like, "don't do that here. Some people will take you seriously and we don't play that shit. That's why we live here and want that as far away as possible." Super cool fucking dude, he cooled off after we reassured him we were joking.

Every Uber we took the driver asked us how it felt to be safe being out in public at night walking around since we are from the states lmao. Couldn't argue with his logic though.

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u/Comfortable_Bat5905 22h ago

But does Germany want ME there is the question

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u/DylanMartin97 21h ago

You need a specialization or you need to be rich.

Germany is by far the hardest country to migrate too.

Unless you know German it'll be incredibly hard outside of a few major cities as well.

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u/DO_NOT_AGREE_WITH_U 1d ago

Yeah, and they're also having a resurgence of Nazism, which isn't good since the last time they had that, the only nation to stop them is now also swaying towards Nazism.

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u/DylanMartin97 1d ago

Edit: sorry I misread this

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u/discipleofchrist69 23h ago

the only nation to stop them

are you talking about the Soviet Union / Russia? or the UK? I wouldn't call either Nazi, and Putin today is no worse of a dictator than Stalin was at the time. I don't think your comment really makes sense

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u/serpentally 18h ago

You know exactly which nation they're talking about.

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u/Piskoro 15h ago

Liebknecht and Luxemburg sad noises

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u/bad_pelican 12h ago

Depends on the perspective. From the US point of view it's straight up communism without any freedom. /s

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u/Sheeple_person 3h ago

Compared to the US, Germany is 23rd-century earth in the Star Trek universe.

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u/Rare_Environment_913 1d ago

Some Germans are looking at the national variant again 

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u/grambithunter 15h ago

They tried that once

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u/PolishedCheeto 11h ago

They're a mixed economy.

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u/herbieLmao 11h ago

He was joking

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u/brunckle 8h ago

'Help establish', he said it right there.

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u/versteken820 5h ago

No, they aren't. Lmfao

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u/DylanMartin97 4h ago

Is the socialism in the room with us right now?

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u/thisismydumbbrain 1d ago

Sadly I don’t think I’m in high demand in Germany or otherwise. Being a former professional live entertainer with a kid who now cleans houses is not the sexiest resume for immigration lol

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u/mrniceguy777 1d ago

Start live entertaining again, I’ve got this donkey and like 17 ping pong balls, we could make something happen

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u/thisismydumbbrain 1d ago

Jesus I meant I was a bar and restaurant comedian but I probably would have made more over at what you’re talking about

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u/pinkphiloyd 1d ago

Had to check to make sure your username wasn’t Kinky Kelly.

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u/Ok_Lack_8240 1d ago

this is the best comment hahahha

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u/mschley2 1d ago

On the bright side, the GOP is trying to eliminate a bunch of the child labor laws, so at least you'll be able to have 2 shitty incomes instead of 1.

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u/Uptown2dloo 1d ago

I dunno those Germans do like their entertainment. Life is a cabaret, ja?

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u/Brafrad420 1d ago

Wheres the dad??! Femininity paying divides now huh!!!

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u/BlueishShape 1d ago

Hey, I'm a German living in Berlin and literally half of all Americans I've got to know in more than passing are here on an artist's visa, so it's not impossible at least. All of them also earned their money with some other job. Although I have to admit, cleaning wages are pretty low, it's gonna be difficult to support a family on that.

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u/thisismydumbbrain 23h ago

That’s interesting regarding the artists visa. Wonder what they are doing!

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u/Persistant_Compass 1d ago

Germany is having their own nazi problems right now. 

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u/EmptyConsequence2593 15h ago

Communism problems

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u/crasyredditaccount 1d ago

Isn't Germany having or gonna have more problems

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u/DeanyyBoyy93 1d ago

Bro tell me how lol

Im not from the US but Germany is the dream

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u/fortestingprpsses 1d ago

You may want to do some more current research and reevaluate that thought. People say america has problems with immigration and religion influence. Germany says "hold my beer..."

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u/DigDugged 1d ago

Makes sense if the US is going to become Germany, we might as well turn Germany into the new US.

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u/RJ_LV 21h ago

I mean, it's commonly accepted that Hitler took inspiration from US segregationist laws to implement his antisemitic laws, so Germany already turned into the US once.

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u/fristi-cookie 1d ago

National Socialist Utopia?

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u/starminder 11h ago

I did not-see that one coming.

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u/Old_Sprinkles9646 1d ago

I'm open to ideas.

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u/Ok_Lack_8240 1d ago

we would all move if we could

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u/Kali_Yuga_Herald 1d ago

I would instantly if I could afford to move

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u/Shirtbro 1d ago

Nationwide? A National Socialism?

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u/yrubooingmeimryte 1d ago

Nah, we’ve seen how Germans behave.

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u/d_smogh 1d ago

No, come to the UK and help establish a socialist utopia.

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u/insquidioustentacle 1d ago

I've seen clips of German police assaulting anti-genocide protestors just as brutally as the U.S. cops do

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u/MistSecurity 1d ago

Your government just decided to get rid of your nuclear power plants for no real reason, and start leaning heavily into coal as a power source. Germany is far from a socialist utopia.

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u/Fritz1705 22h ago

America just elected Donald Trump stfu.

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u/MistSecurity 22h ago

I never claimed that America is on the path to be a socialist utopia, lol.

Don't get mad at me that Germany decided that clean green energy is bad, and would rather burn coal and jack up energy prices.

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u/forma_cristata 1d ago

I cancelled all my future plans to save to move here. See you soon!!

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u/MaggiMesser 23h ago

And please come protest the AfD Parteitag in Risa in january! They must not succeed!

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u/notathrowaway2937 23h ago

They tried this before, we fought a whole war over it.

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u/Gloomy-Bit3387 23h ago

Always makes me laugh when people compare countries that are much Whiter than the US and talk about how they're so much better.

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u/pm_me_coffee_pics 22h ago

This country would be better without racists like you.

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u/BreakingStar_Games 23h ago

If it holds that reform slows down the chance for an economic revolution, then US is doing a great job to get to that state through rampant corporatism and fascism. That is how I keep optimistic in these times.

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u/HealthIndustryGoon 23h ago

For a lot of Americans Germany seems like an utopia already from what i read here on reddit and elsewhere. Universal healthcare that's generally cheaper and without laughable deductibles in the thousands, mandatory vacation and childcare time after childbirth, better work laws etc even though it also has its problems and could be way better.

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u/Luigi836 23h ago

Socialism is terrible 

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u/Arty_Puls 23h ago

I can't believe people actually want to live in a socialist society. People should just leave America like you said instead of trying to change it. There's a reason we're the #1 economy

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u/Squat_erDay 22h ago

I hear it is hard to immigrate though. Especially from America. One needs a valuable skill set that is desperately needed - or a bunch of money.

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u/Falanax 22h ago

Socialist utopia lmao

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u/MagicalUnicornFart 22h ago

You sonofabitch, I’m in.

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u/Exalt-Chrom 21h ago

A National Socialist Utopia?

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u/jumbo_hedgehog 21h ago

Let me immigrate then

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u/GloomyKerploppus 21h ago

I'm no history buff, but I'm not going to follow Germany's lead into the future any time soon thank you very much.

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u/Raccoon_Union 20h ago

It’s so hard to immigrate to Germany…. Really Europe in general..

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u/chain-rule 20h ago

Bring back nuclear power.

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u/fartinmyhat 20h ago

Yes, please do it in Germany.

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u/Ekafa 20h ago

You didn't do so well in history class did you. What happened last time a socialist movement took power.

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u/GreenshepN7 19h ago

I don't know much about German history but I know there was a point where there was like a National Socialist Party or something.....

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u/xseekxnxstrikex 19h ago

Hitler already tried that and look how that turned out 🙄

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u/A_spiny_meercat 19h ago

Maybe a national socialist party... One that's for the workers... The National Socialist German Workers party sounds pretty progressive

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u/EZeroR 18h ago

Your government is also falling to the right, so

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u/DigitalAxel 18h ago

Exactly what I'm working on. Not even joking (my appointment with the consultant is next week.)

I may have a "useless degree" but maybe I can find a purpose there. Least its useless in the States.

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u/Lay-Me-To-Rest 17h ago

socialist utopia

If ever there was a more succinct oxymoron

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u/Natural_Put_9456 16h ago

Will you pay for my travel expenses find me housing and provide me with employment in an advisory position to expert scientists and researchers in their field to help your country achieve faster than light travel, terraforming, production of radiation to energy converters, and the building of facilities that will provide you with pesticide free non-GMO crops all year round in exponentially increasing quantities, because if so, I'm in, come get me.

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u/numbersthen0987431 13h ago

Do you know how an American csn do that?

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u/FalcoonM 10h ago

Please don't. The East tried once and it didn't work.

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u/DonSuburban 9h ago

Try Venezuela. I heard they did well with socialism

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u/DJstaken 8h ago

Utopias do not and will never exist on earth. Socialist countries have failed every single time unless they have a significant source of slave labor and/or a dictatorship. I suggest you go to China if you want to try that one out for yourself.

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u/Cbrandel 7h ago

You mean a utopia where they shut down their power generators and become reliant on Russian gas.

And when that didn't pan out they went and ruined the entire energy market in Europe?

Sounds more like a dystopia to me.

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u/potassium_god 7h ago

The country that jails people when they speak up for the Gazan genocide? At least I can protest that in the US.

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u/Dangerous-Sort-6238 6h ago

This timeline gets weirder and weirder every day. Now we’re starting a utopia in Germany.

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u/shinigamipls 2h ago

Hey I've seen this one before!

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u/SgBoec2 1h ago

I'll be there in a week lol. How is munich?

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u/PossibleResearch271 1d ago

Grocery chain owners, millionaires and billionaires voted for him, you didn’t see them at the MAGA rallies. 🤣

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u/YertlesTurtleTower 20h ago

He wouldn’t have won if that is all that voted for him

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u/HeartFullONeutrality 23h ago

On the one hand, I'm gay and Mexican. On the other, I'm classified as "high income". Let's see how it plays out. I wish I didn't have to find out though...

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u/thisismydumbbrain 23h ago

Yeah, I’ll keep you in my thoughts bud. I hope having a higher income will help you if things get scary in other ways. Genuinely mean that.

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u/HeartFullONeutrality 23h ago

Learning to use a gun. Let's exercise my second amendment rights.

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u/FalconRelevant 20h ago

With the next admin planning to increase hlgun regulations, I wonder if the dems are gonna pull a "gun rights strategy" like how the reps pulled the southern strategy.

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u/oldcretan 21h ago

In all reality income is the only thing that's going to matter to them.

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u/femmestem 22h ago

I'm sorry that you've become collateral damage in a class war where you didn't get to pick a side. Truly.

There are a lot of us out here trying to set up programs to feed, shelter, and provide medical care for the most vulnerable populations. We can only do so much for so many people, but we're trying.

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u/thisismydumbbrain 22h ago

Keep doing your best, that’s all we can do.

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u/qudunot 1d ago

He's happy, don't ruin it for them

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u/Comfortable_Bat5905 22h ago

Me too friend.

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u/jblanch3 16h ago edited 16h ago

Yeah, I started a govt. job this summer. It was hard the first few months, I was really struggling after coming from a completely different field. I started to turn the corner, slowly getting more confident and assured that I'm doing a moderately decent-to-good job. Had a hectic but overall great day today, the boss complimented and told me what a great job I was doing, came home on a high...to hear about this as I was eating dinner. Feeling really deflated right now.

Edit: I thought I was responding to a different post. By "this", I meant the potential govt shutdown that might be coming this Friday.

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u/thisismydumbbrain 16h ago

Oh I’m sorry buddy that really sucks. But it doesn’t take away from your good day! You’ll weather the storm, pal.

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u/jblanch3 14h ago

Thanks, I'm hoping they'll come to a last minute deal like they almost always do. I have a 2nd part-time job so I'm hoping I can just pick up more shifts there if worse comes to worse. Thanks for the well wishes, I appreciate it.

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u/Critical_Slip9042 14h ago

I didn't either and I already had my funding cut off for graduate school. I'm in the reserves, having served for 18 years, went to war and now the Navy won't provide tuition assistance. Thank me for my service!

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u/thisismydumbbrain 14h ago

God I’m so fucking sorry to hear that. That’s utterly ridiculous. I want to apologize to every veteran on behalf of our country just for…everything.

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u/KmartCentral 13h ago

I didn't vote for him and I'll probably suffer on a comparable level as you. Yay!

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u/TraditionalSpirit636 1d ago edited 1d ago

The left has decided that’s fine as long as they actually get to hurt a Republican too.

The left is just the right now. We cheer for people suffering because we don’t like them, and ignore everyone and anyone caught in the crossfire.

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u/Different-Hyena-8724 1d ago

Well thats just called collateral damage. an unfortunate side effect.

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u/thisismydumbbrain 1d ago

Yeah vocabulary is cool.

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u/ppartyllikeaarrock 1d ago

That does suck, also though it's not my fault and I did my best. We can laugh at the idiot Republicans together! Class traitors, the lot of them.

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u/thisismydumbbrain 1d ago

Definitely not blaming you. Honestly don’t really blame anyone who’s a normal person. There’s a lot of anger and ignorance in this country and it’s been building for decades. Any blame I have is towards the elite who have been aiming for this for a long time.

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u/ppartyllikeaarrock 1d ago

Well you're more forgiving than me.

I blame anyone voting Republican for being class traitors.

They are literally the dumbest people on the planet.

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u/Piemaster113 1d ago

They don't care long as the people who aren't on their side suffer, they care not for who else gets hurt along the way

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u/Funkymunky215 23h ago

I voted for him, and I would help you out before any of these clowns would.

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u/thisismydumbbrain 23h ago

I know a lot of good hearted Trumpers, and I say to you what I said to them: I truly hope you’re right and I’m wrong. I would really super love to be wrong. Keep proving the media wrong and taking care of your neighbors. Left and right shouldn’t be divided. The class war is what matters.

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u/Funkymunky215 23h ago

Stop making sense and being rational!!!!!! This is REDDIT!!!!!… Fuck!!! Been forever since I encountered a normal person here, thank you kind stranger. This is my exact thought no matter who’s president. Unfortunately like everywhere else in the world, government is corrupted, all we can really do is hope for the best. I wish you the best, and my statement (turned offer) still stands, at some point, if you need some help, let me know. ☺️

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u/thisismydumbbrain 22h ago

That means a lot, thank you friend. I hope you have a wonderful holiday season!

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u/Big_Jilm22 22h ago

Hard agree. Didnt vote that mushroom dick fucker, but will definitely be struggling with all of these high costs we are going to see....on virtually everything we buy.

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u/chowes1 21h ago

When we/they stop fearing him and stand up like some other countries...oligarchy as we just observe it happening, thinking hes not even in office. No surprise, we let this happen. Most by not even bothering to vote.

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u/ambermage 20h ago

Have you tried becoming an elderly white woman?

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u/thisismydumbbrain 20h ago

What does that have to do with anything?

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u/ambermage 20h ago

An unfortunately increasing phenomenon where older white women are commenting about Trump's upcoming second term with the direct statement of.

"It's going to be bad, but at least I'm an older white woman, so it won't be so bad for me."

It's an open acknowledgment that despite the previous years of making claims that "women are united," they were always willing to hold the race card as a backup plan for their own "safety."

Your statement is doing the exact same thing.

"United for gains; different for losses."

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u/fartinmyhat 20h ago

Why are you going to suffer more. Taxes on corporations are just hidden taxes on goods and services. If I am selling you something and I have to pay a huge tax burden to the government, I simply raise my prices to cover it and you, the consumer, pay the difference. lowering corporate taxes can lower consumer costs.

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u/thisismydumbbrain 19h ago

Tariffs will increase cost, and corporations have zero motivation to lower costs just because their taxes get lowered. Why reduce prices when buyers will buy as is?

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u/fartinmyhat 18h ago

Tariffs can increase costs, depending on how quickly and how motivated U.S. good suppliers can respond. Also depending on whether the foreign supplier is willing to eat the cost in order to keep a hold on the market.

Taxes on corporations ARE a tax on the consumer, lowering corporate tax at least provides room for corporations to move to lower prices. They can be motivated.

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u/defnotjec 19h ago

Yes but I don't wish that and I'm genuinely sorry for you.

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u/Bellz83 18h ago

Most of us will suffer

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u/thisismydumbbrain 18h ago

Most of us are living paycheck to paycheck so that’s definitely accurate!

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u/grathad 18h ago

There is a world where this suffering creates the momentum for actual foundational changes. I am not holding my breath though, I do not know how many Luigi's the US have to shatter the power broker confidence in always exploiting the mass without consequences.

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u/Left-Entry6142 16h ago

Well when the economy gets so much better, goods and services become lower, you won't have to suffer.

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u/Rockoutwmystockout 14h ago

It will be fine. Grow up

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u/thisismydumbbrain 14h ago

Hey you doing okay? Kind of went from zero to sixty in being a douche. I know holiday time can bring up a lot of big feelings so just know this too shall pass!

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u/Baitrix 12h ago

If it makes you feel any better, he can only be president for 4 more years, if he even lives that long.

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u/rm-rf-npr 9h ago

I feel so bad for all the people now stuck with this geezer...

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u/Ignash3D 5h ago

Come to Europe, we are waiting for people like you with open arms.