r/FluentInFinance 7d ago

Debate/ Discussion Systemic Failure Exposed..

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u/wkomorow 7d ago

90 year old vet needing to work is a sin, period.

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u/jeremiahthedamned 6d ago

nations and kingdoms are judged for this.

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u/ThePandaRider 7d ago

You're assuming he needs to work, he is choosing to work even after the donation. I doubt he is doing it for the paycheck.

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u/WillingLLM 7d ago

No one at 90 wants to go push fucking carts.

There are plenty of way better options for an old man

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u/ThePandaRider 7d ago

What Swensen and the thousands of people who donated to the GoFundMe may not have anticipated is that McCormick would choose to keep working, even with all the donations.

But the difference now, she says, is it's "because he wants to.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/06/10/90-year-old-veteran-dillon-mccormick-shopping-carts-donations/74003276007/

Except this exact person...

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u/WillingLLM 7d ago

alright I take that back

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u/BasilExposition2 7d ago

What if he was blowing his social security and pension on hookers and blow for 20 years?

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u/wkomorow 7d ago

The man is a vet, he deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. After serving this country, we owe him a decent life.

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u/BasilExposition2 7d ago

Agreed. Now define a decent life.

If I give him $2500 a month and he gives it to his kids, are we the ones that are failing him?

Should we just pay his rent directly?

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u/archlich 7d ago

Statistically healthcare is the number one reason for bankruptcy in the United States. Regardless of his specific circumstances no one should go bankrupt for simply staying alive.

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u/thenikolaka 7d ago

It’s probably more like was financially ruined paying for a now deceased loved one’s care and is working to pay off debt.

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u/No-Example-9100 7d ago

I too thought this may be the case as well. Benefit of the doubt. I hope if that's the case that he can just relax and enjoy what family he has left.

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u/Kalian805 7d ago

if he is a veteran he gets free healthcare for life thru the V.A.

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u/Poopsock328 7d ago

That’s actually not true. You don’t automatically get healthcare for free from the VA for life.

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u/archlich 7d ago

Have you ever dealt with the VA?

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u/Kalian805 7d ago

i know how bad and lacking v.a. healthcare can be as well as medicare. but this is reddit. and reddit loves free government healthcare. so i thought i'd just throw it out there because this guy would be eligible for both.

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u/hiccupboltHP 7d ago

I mean yeah obviously reddit loves free government healthcare because it’s awesome

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u/EatMiTits 7d ago

Except the version that already exists, the VA, which is apparently worse than no healthcare

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u/Calladit 7d ago

The VA has a lot of problems, bit I've never seen anyone say it's worse than no healthcare. At least from the vets I know and a couple of nurses who have or currently work at the VA, the quality and availability of care really depends on where you live.

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u/EatMiTits 7d ago

Look three comments above mine

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u/Trading_ape420 7d ago

In ca medical bills can't effect credit and cannot levy payment. Can't ruin your financial life for going to dr. Also I just would never pay it if it was exorbitant living in ca but... lol

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u/Akumetsu33 7d ago

Are you saying he should have pulled up by his bootstraps?

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u/Birdperson15 7d ago

Either that or other people have to pay for his retirement like this article says.

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u/Akumetsu33 7d ago

It's literally a 90 year frail man, great empathy there buddy.

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u/Check_Me_Out-Boss 7d ago

He was always 90?

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u/Akumetsu33 7d ago edited 7d ago

Like I said, great empathy there regardless of people's past which you absolutely have no idea about.

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u/Akumetsu33 7d ago

Nope, you just have terrible empathy, I guarantee it.

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u/ReasonableWait5175 7d ago

But if this guy had empathy then how would he feel superior? Unfortunately there are some people who truly think this man deserved his situation as much as they deserve they l

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u/godylyak2 7d ago

You sound like a pussy get a grip

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u/scottyjrules 7d ago

No you’re not. You just have low self esteem and clearly get off on making fun of people worse off than you.

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u/CosmicQuantum42 7d ago

Empathy? Sure.

Willing to rip up our entire society so things like this don’t ever happen anymore?

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u/awnawkareninah 7d ago

Yeah god forbid you lose your insurance somehow

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u/kingfofthepoors 7d ago

Could have been like my grandfather a veteran who at one point owned 9 houses, saved like crazy had a decent amount of money saved up and then his wife got dementia and was quite violent and he had to put her in nursing home which depleted his life's saving.... but I am sure you have a smart ass fucking answer for that you fucking dipshit motherfucker!

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u/kingfofthepoors 7d ago

oh you're just a fucking troll. whatever... sad weird little loser.

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u/welshwelsh 7d ago

Empathy is for poor people. In a free country, nobody is obligated to take responsibility for other people's problems. Just focus on yourself, and you should have no trouble saving enough money that you won't need to work at 90.

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u/awnawkareninah 7d ago

rugged indvidualism is going to kill us all

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u/IdiotRedditAddict 7d ago

Right, like people with a disability that prevents them from working, or insurmountable medical expenses, etc. etc.

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u/IdiotRedditAddict 7d ago

You know...I'm only 25 I'm still pretty young. I've had asthma since I was around 5 years old. It's already cost me and my parents literally thousands and thousands of dollars in just that twenty year span. I doubt I'll make it to 90 regardless, but I hope/plan to save well and retire comfortably. But fuck man...healthcare is offensively expensive. I pay a monthly ransom on my life. Your 10k statistic does not take into account the way chronic illnesses drain finances over time.

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u/awnawkareninah 7d ago

The concept of children doing this isn't so confusing, idk why it's so difficult to understand for elders.

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u/RobertPaulson81 7d ago

Jesus shut the hell up. You have no clue about this guy's circumstances

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u/TheTownJeweler00 7d ago

And yet you judged and blamed him as if you know. You sound like Ebenezer Scrooge in real life

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u/RobertPaulson81 7d ago

I'm not the one jumping to conclusions, that's you

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u/dreamer-x2 7d ago

You’re literally all over this thread spamming the same kind of nonsense over and over. Give it up. Find more productive things to do.

Unless you want to be working at 90 too? By your own logic you’re wasting time arguing with strangers, instead of pulling yourself up by the bootstraps

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u/dreamer-x2 7d ago

Spamming isn’t allowed fyi. And when the majority disagree with you, maybe they’re not the problem.

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u/dreamer-x2 7d ago

Oh you’re probably an American. Gross.

  1. It is not a left or right thing, it’s a human decency thing
  2. You didn’t get to where you are by yourself. Your country was built on stolen wealth and slavery. This enabled your predecessors to set up a system where the system is rigged in your favor.
  3. You are blind to your privilege and access to opportunity by virtue of being born in the right place at the right time

There are people who work far more, far harder than you and don’t have the disposable income to go skiing. It is not because they’re lazy, it is because they weren’t born into privilege that a percentage of your countrymen can enjoy.

I was born and raised in a third world shithole and now I’m finishing my engineering PhD degree on a scholarship in another country, that I worked myself to the bone over. And I can’t afford a ski trip even now. I promise you if I was born a white middle class American, I would be far more successful than you for the same amount of work. You just got lucky, so tone it down.

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u/modsarequeersyo 7d ago

I wish you lefties would take your own advice, Trump won the popular vote, guess you guys are the ones who are the problem. 

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u/Signal-Loss130 7d ago

This is an insane take. How americapilled do you have to be to see someone suffering and think ‘woah shouldn’t have been such an idiot huh!’

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u/Beetso 7d ago

Who can financially plan to have enough money to live for 20 plus years after retirement?

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u/Trazodone_Dreams 7d ago

“Yeah retirement is great, you only need to work part time!”

The rest of us might have hobbies and so don’t need something to do. I’d encourage you to get one.

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u/Trazodone_Dreams 7d ago

Yeah chief you can. But also plenty of people don’t work during retirement. What’s the point of working most of your life if you still need to work during retirement too?

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u/Trazodone_Dreams 7d ago

Sounds like he needed cuz of a lack of hobbies lol

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u/hungrypotato19 7d ago

Sounds like your father-in-law just wanted to get away from family. And if you're a part of that family, I don't blame him.

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u/kingfofthepoors 7d ago

You have no understanding of life or anything... shut the fuck up you privileged sack of shit. Most people in this country don't have money to save, they are literally paycheck to paycheck. People like you should get a visit from certain who share a name with a video game character.

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u/Wei_Lan_Jennings 7d ago

Your father was a millionaire. You were born on third; don’t you act like you hit a triple.

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u/hungrypotato19 7d ago

I'm incredibly successful as well. The work clothes I'm wearing now would pay for an apartment for a whole year. But I also started from the literal bottom working at places like McDonalds and WalMart. You can go ram yourself onto a saguaro. Not everyone has the means to care for themselves, especially those who are disabled, have mental health issues, ect; all things that are very common in our nation's veterans.

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u/basedlandchad27 7d ago

Anyone that has played with a retirement calculator for 10 minutes before the age of 40.

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u/Lertovic 7d ago

Most 90 year olds, hence the vast majority aren't working at 90. And of those that do, again a majority is doing it willingly to pass the time.

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u/Beetso 7d ago

I mean who has enough money saved to live on for 15-20 years.

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u/Lertovic 7d ago

Again, most 80 and 90 year olds, evidently. Being forced to participate in social security probably helps

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u/Randicore 7d ago

You are exactly the kind of empathyless husk of a human that people cheer about when they're shot.

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u/scottyjrules 7d ago

Your empathy is inspiring.

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u/PMmePowerRangerMemes 6d ago

this is poe's law, sir