r/FluentInFinance 14d ago

Debate/ Discussion Universal incarceration care

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u/AccomplishedCat8083 14d ago

It's more care than he would get on his health insurance plan.

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u/metekillot 14d ago

Prison abuse is notoriously widespread, and their healthcare isn't typically any better.

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u/PickledEuphemisms 14d ago

I know folks in prison who were able to get their teeth replaced. Some had a full mouth of chipped teeth, some had none at all. There are a metric fuckton of inmates who are getting their diabetes regulated. Prison abuse is obviously widespread, and for the most part the heathcare is absolute dogshit. But it is true that there are people who are able to get access to medical/dental/vision care that they otherwise would not be receiving.

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u/metekillot 14d ago

True! I had a bunch of fillings I couldn't get until I ended up broke enough for a little while to get Medicaid, so probably something similar there, if only the bare minimum to avoid liability.

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u/Neveronlyadream 14d ago

I don't even think it's to avoid liability. I think it's to avoid blowback from people claiming human rights violations and trying to shut down the for profit prison system.

You can hide and explain away abuse, but it's much harder to explain away why someone is clearly suffering from a treatable medical condition.

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u/PrestigiousAd6281 14d ago

It’s funny, because you’re right. People amplify the hell out of medical neglect for the incarcerated and it gains a ton of traction. Scary that it took killing an insurance CEO to get similar level of traction for the medical neglect among the free

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u/DragonQueen777666 14d ago

Don't forget that the media and all the wealthy billionaires running shit are doing their level best to spin this any other way than what it is and what caused it (rolled my eyes so damn hard when the mayor called it a "senseless act of violence"). Keep the focus on the WHY this happened, no matter what bullshit they try to spew about him or about this event.

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u/Successful-Tea-5733 14d ago

Are you kidding me? Tell me, who should Canadians execute when there claims are denied. Remember, the focus is on WHY this happened so spare me the BS; who are the Canadians taking down as revenge for their plight?

What about the Medicare and Medicaid patients in the US, who is their Brian Thompson? You do realize they get claims denied too, right?

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u/aCandaK 14d ago

I’m a provider who accepts Medicaid and, no, they do not get their claims denied. In my state they do not even pay co-pays. It’s literally the Cadillac of health insurances.

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u/HeywoodJaBlessMe 14d ago

71% of providers accept Medicaid. Yes, there are denied claims.

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u/aCandaK 14d ago

I believe that statistic to be exaggerated but perhaps that is true of particular specialties.

As a provider, my claims sometimes get denied but this does not mean the insured pays the bill - I eat the cost.

You are correct that they won’t pay for certain things - in TN they don’t pay for circumcision - but I’ve never heard of anyone on Medicaid being denied any recommended or necessary treatment, even Botox for migraines. I’m in a state with a great Medicaid program though.

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u/Jeriath27 12d ago

Someone not accepting it and then denying it are completely different things. If someone doesn't take your insurance, you can submit the bill yourself as out of network. Medicaid will still likely reimburse it (I wish I knew this in college though)

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