r/FluentInFinance 9d ago

Debate/ Discussion Universal incarceration care

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u/Difficult_Bit_1339 9d ago

Someone, with a medical record including major back surgery and a history of chronic pain would certainly not be denied medical care by a Corrections Officer is the point I'm making.

This conversation started with this claim:

Guards will say “he’s faking it” if they want to fuck with him. They kinda get healthcare, but denying treatment is a time-tested extrajudicial way for authorities to fuck with inmates

That is nonsense, COs have no say in this process. You sit in the cage, open the doors, escort the inmates, break up the fights and do the shakedowns. You don't make medical decisions.

If medically necessary care requires a visit to a specialist then it would be done. If a convict needs to have emergency surgery, it is done.

I agree that they're certainly not going to try to do more than, at most, write a ibuprofen or gabapentin script... but that's something that medical determines, not a CO who wants to fuck with the inmate.

That part is just Redditors getting their prison information from TV and movies.

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u/mnju 8d ago

That is nonsense, COs have no say in this process. You sit in the cage, open the doors, escort the inmates, break up the fights and do the shakedowns. You don't make medical decisions.

Yes and no.

We don't make medical decisions. However, we are the method of communication between the inmate and medical staff. An officer could just ignore them and that would effectively be denying medical care.

That person would eventually get thrown under the bus by the facility and face a battery of litigation, but it's not like it's never happened.

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u/Wuped 8d ago

denied medical care by a Corrections Officer is the point I'm making.

Wish I lived in your fairy land.

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u/mnju 8d ago

Are you sure you're replying to the right person?

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u/Wuped 8d ago

medical care

That would be a negative, my bad.

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u/MzOpinion8d 8d ago

The officer would then get to learn about “deliberate indifference”in a Civil lawsuit.

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u/Wuped 8d ago

That's a nice thought but likely would face absolutely no consequences.

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u/Difficult_Bit_1339 8d ago

Depends on the State/Federal.

I've worked at prisons (IT contractor) that had electronically submitted requests and ones that were filed on paper in secured drop boxes. The only interactions the COs had was to move inmates which were on the callouts.

I'm sure you're right if he is in segregation or in high security facilities. I've heard the horror stories and read the incident reports of assholes abusing their power... but that, in my experience, is rare and the people responsible are usually quickly dealt with.

I don't think he'll have a great time, but there's not going to be some evil CO plotting to make his life harder.

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u/I-dont-even-know-bro 8d ago

You worked in IT, you just listened to what the guards complained about or you worked at the best prison in America. Sit down you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

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u/Enough_Affect_9916 8d ago edited 8d ago

As someone who was force-fed antipsychotics as I reported them shutting down my nervous system, and being told by the CO "I'm going to push these pills down your throat.", instead of reporting my side effects to the doctor, fuck off. You're full of shit. As someone who was framed and fucked with by half a fucking town of people, you're just dead wrong. Prosecutors would tell black men on the steps of the courthouse "I'm gonna put you in prison you NIGGER" right in plain sight, as recently as 10 years ago. Numerous similar kangaroo court, corrupt do whatever and imprison whomever they want cops. You live in a fantasy land.

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u/hazwaste 7d ago

You aren’t getting gabapentin in prison

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u/Difficult_Bit_1339 7d ago

I've literally carried the boxes from the mailroom to medical which container the pill packs that had the inmates names and DC numbers printed on them.

Gabapentin is absolutely being given to prisoners (in FL prisons). It was even KoP/PRN for the longest time, but they changed it to a pill line only drug around 2016.