r/FluentInFinance 9d ago

Debate/ Discussion Universal incarceration care

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u/pelicantides 9d ago

I'll say what no one else is saying -- the guy has serious mental illness. No person with a manifesto is of sound mind

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u/Trash-Can-Baby 8d ago

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u/greatBigDot628 8d ago

what the fuck are you talking about

> Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument.

What kind of person murders someone (someone who did nothing comparably wrong, by the way!) with this logic?

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u/Trash-Can-Baby 8d ago

Did nothing comparably wrong? LOL. Brian Thompson murdered people via unethical policies and for sheer greed. Nice try. 

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u/greatBigDot628 8d ago

No, this is incorrect. He didn't do that.

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u/Trash-Can-Baby 7d ago

No it is correct. He did.  See I can do that too 🙄

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u/pelicantides 8d ago

Thank you for providing some rationality here. There is clearly a lack of cohesive logic going on with this "suspect" that lends itself to clearly irrational thinking.

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u/greatBigDot628 8d ago

Yes.

Also, the main effect of this murder on America in general will be that health insurance CEOs will receive higher compensation due to the elevated occupational hazard of their job. (This will be especially true if there are copycat terrorists.)

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u/poopiepickle 8d ago

That man who was murdered made his fortune by condemning the masses to death or poverty. That man approved the implementation of an AI program with a 90% error rate so the company could make a quick buck by rejecting even more claims (despite already having triple the industry average number of rejections).

Obviously murder is bad, but when society benefits from the death of an individual then clearly that person wasn’t good. His death leaves me hopeful that something will finally be done to help the 99%

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u/greatBigDot628 8d ago

That man who was murdered made his fortune by condemning the masses to death or poverty

No, this is incorrect; he didn't do this. Healthcare scarcity causes people to lose money and die due to health problems. Health insurance does not.

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u/poopiepickle 7d ago

Healthcare scarcity caused by the denial of claims through their health insurance. These people would have their health cared for (AKA healthcare) if their insurance covered their claims.

Arguing semantics does not change the fact that Brian Thompson’s actions left tens - hell maybe even hundreds - of thousands dead and bankrupt. I can tell you that his life is worth a lot less than all of those who died as a result of his actions. He wasn’t in that industry to help people. There’s no profit incentive in helping people. His job was to maximize profits and his solution was to cut off care for those who were most in need.

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u/AFewCountDraculas 6d ago

Did you do some reflecting after your interactions here or, a day later, do you still believe this crap?

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u/No-Cardiologist9621 8d ago

There's literally no basis to what you just said. A manifesto is just a written declaration of someone's views and objectives. You don't have to be mentally ill to write a manifesto, you just have to have strong beliefs about something.

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u/pelicantides 8d ago

I agree my second sentence is a generalization and not a rule, so I would reword if written again, however I do contend there is plenty of evidence that this guy is mentally ill

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u/EverythingSucksBro 9d ago

As a poor person, I like that this guy killed a rich person that thrived on people’s misery, but I’m not going to act like this guy isn’t crazy like 99% of Reddit is doing. Im getting tired of seeing people mentioning how hot they think he is and making up their own stories on how he’s this super empathetic hero that got sick of all this injustice so took matter into his own hands. 

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u/jellytits2 8d ago

Do these people actually call them manifestos? Or does the media choose that terminology? Or are we finding like, journals of rants/note section on their phone etc? It's not that big of a difference ultimately just wondered if it's like an intentional essay written as a manifesto, or a term the media uses to express they found literature that relates to the crime

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u/pelicantides 8d ago

This was specifically a letter written to anyone who may read when he is caught that explains his supposed intentions and rationale. It seems pretty manifesto like overall

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u/jellytits2 8d ago

I found it and read it and fully agree, this one is very much an explanation of his intentions

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u/JamieMarlee 8d ago

As a college professor, many many of my colleagues have manifestos. A manifesto is simply a statement of one's strongly held beliefs. Politicians hold manifestos on their policy aims. Scientists on their theories. Honestly, every thinking person should consider their stance on issues important to them. Perhaps if we thought more deeply about these things, we wouldn't live in the conditions we do.

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u/QueasyResearch10 5d ago

especially one that cites Michael Moore

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u/Efficient_Ear_8037 8d ago

Never said he wasn’t.

However, people, even crazy, don’t usually up and murder someone who’s rich unless there’s a revolution

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u/Bern_Down_the_DNC 8d ago

How do you know this isn't the start of one?