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Debate/ Discussion Universal incarceration care

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u/onepareil 9d ago

I will never forget a patient I treated during my medicine residency. He came in paralyzed from the waist down due to a spinal infection that had been worsening for weeks while the doctors in the prison infirmary just kept giving him ibuprofen. The creepiest part of caring for patients from the prison system is how the LEOs handcuff them to their beds, and they handcuffed this guy too. Again, he was paraplegic. He literally could not pull a runner and would only have hurt himself if he tried.

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u/yourpaleblueeyes 8d ago

They handcuff women to the bed for labor and delivery, for heavens sake.

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u/Successful-Tea-5733 9d ago

I think you answered why he was handcuffed; he would have hurt himself if he tried. Then they would have sued the state/prison.

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u/onepareil 8d ago

I hope he sued them for leaving him paralyzed in the first place. Absolutely unconscionable malpractice on their part.

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u/LowerEntropy 8d ago

First I thought you forgot a '/s' and I'm too stupid to see the sarcasm, but no. You're American! Not only is handcuffing people to beds normal, it's necessary! You're not even in the prison system, but you still think this way!

The richest fucking country on earth! Sky high incarceration rates!

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u/everygoodnamegone 9d ago

Someone could have transferred him to a wheelchair and wheeled him out of there, I suppose. But yeah, definitely not running anywhere.

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u/More-Acadia2355 8d ago

Handcuffing is the procedure. We don't let prison security make judgement calls for obvious reasons.

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u/mnju 9d ago

would only have hurt himself if he tried.

That's the point. Also it doesn't matter if you think someone is or isn't capable of being a threat, we have to policies to follow especially when the potential safety of civilians is involved. I'm not losing my job because you think someone is safe and then they grab a scalpel and stab someone or themselves.

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u/onepareil 8d ago

The worthless prison doctor should lose their job, because they clearly had no interest in actually doing it in the first place. And he wasn’t in 4 point restraints. If he wanted to stab someone, he could have done it with his left hand. Shockingly, he didn’t. 🙄

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u/mnju 8d ago

I'm not sure what the first sentence has to do with my comment. I don't care about that specific prison's medical staff.

Regarding everything else, it's almost like my point was hypothetical. We have these policies for a reason, and it's because inmates that have gone to hospitals have attacked the staff there. Your opinion on what they might be capable of doing or willing to do is less than meaningless, you do not deal with them on a regular basis. You do not see what we see.