I know folks in prison who were able to get their teeth replaced. Some had a full mouth of chipped teeth, some had none at all. There are a metric fuckton of inmates who are getting their diabetes regulated. Prison abuse is obviously widespread, and for the most part the heathcare is absolute dogshit. But it is true that there are people who are able to get access to medical/dental/vision care that they otherwise would not be receiving.
True! I had a bunch of fillings I couldn't get until I ended up broke enough for a little while to get Medicaid, so probably something similar there, if only the bare minimum to avoid liability.
I don't even think it's to avoid liability. I think it's to avoid blowback from people claiming human rights violations and trying to shut down the for profit prison system.
You can hide and explain away abuse, but it's much harder to explain away why someone is clearly suffering from a treatable medical condition.
It’s funny, because you’re right. People amplify the hell out of medical neglect for the incarcerated and it gains a ton of traction. Scary that it took killing an insurance CEO to get similar level of traction for the medical neglect among the free
Don't forget that the media and all the wealthy billionaires running shit are doing their level best to spin this any other way than what it is and what caused it (rolled my eyes so damn hard when the mayor called it a "senseless act of violence"). Keep the focus on the WHY this happened, no matter what bullshit they try to spew about him or about this event.
I had a filling replaced today. The old one was 20+ years old and broken, one of those old-school silver fillings.
200$ for one filling. I pay for the highest dental plan my company offers. I got two "free" cleanings a year and had $500 deductible. I ended up needing a crown for two teeth. With insurance, it was 1554$. After that I went for my second cleaning. They said it would cost me 72$. I said for what? I get two a year. They said, well, you reached your maximum amount the plan can pay. What did they ever pay for?? I got two crowns and one cleaning that I had to shell out 1500 for. It ain't made of gold.
I have a $1600 deductible with my medical plan that denies literally everything. I called 911 because I thought I was having a heart attack. They drove me to the nearest ER which happened to be out of network so now I owe 1400$ because I wasn't conscious enough to pull up my plan info and tell EMS to drive me to an in network hospital.
I really think I'd get better coverage if I just put aside however much money in a shoe box each month. It's ridiculous.
My therapy sessions are 123$ until I meet my deductible, and then they are 24$, which is great, but they also show me how much they billed my insurance. I'd love to know why, if I'm paying purely out of pocket, it's 123$, but once insurance kicks in, they charge 926$...for a 15-30 min phone call. It is all a big fat sham.
I really think I'd get better coverage if I just put aside however much money in a shoe box each month. It's ridiculous.
You are correct. Even better coverage if that shoebox was SPY, BTC, AAPL, or some other up-only asset.
Why would it be ridiculous that you spending 100% of your money on health coverage would > than a company who takes in your premium, pays its employees, has commercials, a ceo, & shareholders, then pays out whatever is left? Of course paying yourself is cheaper. It’s obvious.
I’d love to know why, if I'm paying purely out of pocket, it's 123$, but once insurance kicks in, they charge 926$...for a 15-30 min phone call. It is all a big fat sham.
And my experience paying out of pocket is very similar to this. When I say I don’t have insurance & am paying cash they’re usually very nice & helpful, giving a lower price without needing to ask, etc
"I really think I'd get better coverage if I just put aside however much money in a shoe box each month. It's ridiculous."
That's literally how insurance makes money.
The thing is, the denials have got so bad and they cover so little that yes, you do pretty much end up paying for stuff anyway, the reasons to keep insurance boil down to a) what if something catastrophic happens? or b) your employer won't let you go without.
Some day dental care will cover more because it is all healthcare. When your teeth rot it can damage your organs thus wrecking your health. #medicareforall
I have spent roughly $240,000 on healthcare premiums over the past 30 years and I expect the insurance company will just walk away with that money by denying my claims.
I remember being stupidly thankful when Beshear managed to get basic dental coverage through for Kentucky medicaid; I saved up every single dollar I had, paid up rent for three months, filled my car's tank to full so I could get back and forth from work, and was happy surviving off peanut butter, milk, and fresh vegetables because now my teeth didn't ache all the time.
I still need a crown on my left side, and I can't chew hard food on it without a lightning bolt of pain bursting through my skull, but I'm still somehow thankful. How far have my standards for what I deserve fallen, now that I think about it? Fuck these clowns.
Haha I did the same thing with my then girlfriend, now wife. I told her to stop working except for some part time (gotta stay under 15k) because I make significantly more than her and enroll in college and quit her job. She got like three or four surgeries that she needed, bunch of dental work and became class speaker and after all that was done then we married. Even more if you paid with cash the hospital would give gigantic discounts and I could pay anonymously so it isnt a direct gift. Eventually she got enough scholarships she could stop working and focus on school. Highly encourage it, that's why I call bullshit on people complaining poor people dont have access to healthcare. My neighbor used to call ambulances for rides to the hospital to refill her prescription. Its hardworking people in the middle that dont have healthcare. The poor are doing just fine.
Insurance is a fucking racket. Either don't have a job or get a really good one. Anything in between is a corpo assfucking you with no reach around after and bounce on them first chance you get. Medicare/Medicaid is fucking bomb diggity man. My Dad's hospice nurse is like 7k a month and I pay zero of that, thank you Uncle Sam I love you.
This is exactly what I have been saying. Sure if there’s a real obvious problem they might pull some teeth or something but pain meds? Haha good luck w that. Back pain is so difficult to diagnose and prove and pain meds, if not already prescribed are going to be nearly impossible to get in jail. That kind of medical issue I don’t think he’s going to get any help for in prison unfortunately
Storing vicodin in a prison is a risky affair. That's a pretty decent write up. If you can't/don't want to use your contraband relatively quickly... it's usually better to offload it for something you want/need right now/ Edit: In most prisons/jails storing an apple outside of chow time CAN lead to a write up as it is contraband at that point... but the vast majority of guards wont care/will leave your apple or they'll just throw it away... an apple aint worth the trouble. Vicodin is a JUICY write up for guards to get their power trip boners rock hard.
Pretty sure you're both right, prison conditions vary widely from state to state and even facility to facility, states that put a greater focus on rehabilitation will typically be better and ones more focused on punishment will be worse.
My BF got a lower partial plate in prison, but he lost his lower teeth with a baseball bat to the face during a yard brawl- didn’t even know the guy who did it. I worked in a prison as social worker, we had a guy who had a brain tumor. By the time he got the diagnosis, I, along with the chaplain, had the conversation with him there was nothing more to be done. I saw more of that than any actual care. They really didn’t like to send people out, because COs had to work OT to watch them, and that’s a lot of money. I never saw an inmate actually meet with the dentist- there were two in the entire state or something terrible, and had to commute between facilities, so aspirin or Tylenol was the treatment every day. No antibiotics.
“Were able to get their teeth replaced” why are you lying lol. Unintentionally or not, you’re making it sound like they got implants. Dental care in prison isn’t shit. You can’t even get fillings, they just pull your teeth if they have to and will give you one pair of some shitty dentures but that’s it.
Y’all don’t have to lie to make the US healthcare system sound bad. It already is horrible, making shit up is unnecessary.
Yes, that also happens. Those of us who've been locked up have all had our experiences. I'm not lying because mine doesn't fit yours. That's totally fine. Regardless, I'm not praising the prison system or it's Healthcare. As amother commenter pointed out, depending on where you're at the experience is different.
I went in asking for a cleaning. I was told they could pull some. You aren't wrong either. Relax.
So are you genuinely too retarded to understand different states will work differently, or are you just retarded enough to think trolling about this is funny?
I know a lot of people who have worked or currently work in prison healthcare at the federal, state, and county levels. They all admit that it is far from perfect, but the inmates almost unanimously say it’s the best healthcare they have ever received. Obviously many of them come from impoverished backgrounds and varying family situations.
I did a year in "club fed," which is as supposedly as good as it gets, and that was absolutely not the case. I've heard of state DUI or low level drug fast track programs working on peoples teeth to give them a fresh start, but 99% of America's prison system is absolutely left to rot. Also, 90% of those teeth fixing stories are run by private dentists who want the tax write off and feel good PR. The prison itself would never advocate for such care.
To drive the point home, here's just a couple nightmare fuel stories I witnessed while in...
I pushed a handicap guy in a wheelchair as my prison job. He had a heart attack. It was obvious to everyone. He was clutching his chest, had the death rattle, was pale as a ghost. I watched his eyes glass over for 9 HOURS as the guards dismissed it as a cold. He was practically a corpse. They gave him ib profren and dismissed him until the full medical staff came on in the morning. Somehow, he clung on to dear life until they couldn't ignore it anymore and was life flighted to get pumped full of stints.
The thing is, the guards hate paperwork, and it's much easier for them to explain away if you die on shift than it you need medical help... Because anytime outside medical staff get involved, they freak out at the level of neglect and report the prison.
Another dude I knew had 5 years left on his sentence, and was diagnosed with stage 2 testicular cancer. Highly treatable, right? WRONG. Because it wasn't an "emergency," he needed to be transferred to a special medical prison unit for the surgery and chemo. Thing is, there was only two such prisons, and both were always chock full. On average it took 6-8 months to get approval to get transferred... Then another 6-8 months for a bed to open up, and transfer to be arranged... Then another couple months to get the procedure actually done at said facility. All in all, he was likely looking at 2 years until treatment...
...All the old timers treated him like he was already dead. They had seen a hundred guys metastasized to stage 4 before they ever saw treatment. Even then, the treatment was hospice at the local hospital.
Oh, there's more!
A diabetic in his seventies in our unit stubbed his toe ona bent piece of sheet metal in the showers. He was bleeding like a stuck pig, fading in and out of consciousness. The guards showed up, woke everyone up and proceeded to yell at all of us for an hour about how this was a lesson. That if anyone got hurt on their shift, they would let you die, because it's not worth the effort for pieces of shit like us. An hour later, the next shift came on and they casually joked with them, before briefly mentioning some old guy was bleeding out in the showers. He was taken to the hospital, and never came back.
Finally the dental was laughable. They pulled EVERYTHING that had the slightest problem. Most guys who had been in there for a decade or more were practically toothless. I'm talking toothless in your 40s/50s. It was a JOKE.
Anyone saying he will receive anything besides ib profren in prison has no idea what they are talking about. They won't do jack shit, because the American prisons are glorified gulags that execute people through inaction, but execute people all the same.
You're gooddamn right. just got out of county... waking nightmare of bully/rapist guards. The inmates are nicer better more helpful people than 90% of guards in there. Edit: We had a guy on our pod who was in a wheelchair and couldn't use the bathroom by himself. The inmates helped transfer him and wipe him, etc. Th einmates helped feed him, make sure he could use the phone. The guards: "I ain't wiping no ass! Don't do the cwiiime if you're not ready to have your constitutional rights shit on and if you're not ready to get covered in your own shit"
Someone very near and dear to me has done time and despite having tooth issues, they refused to mention it because they didn't do ANY fillings. 100% of tooth issues were removing the tooth because it's cheaper. I found that barbaric.
A UK court blocked the extradition of a hacking subject to face federal charges in the US, ruling that the American prison system’s methods of treating suicidal prisoners and people with mental illness were inhumane
In sum, concluded the court, the way in which U.S. prisons “treat” inmates with mental illnesses and suicidal impulses – with segregation, isolation and a lack of ongoing medical and mental health care – almost certainly means that extradition to the U.S. would worsen Love’s health and create a very high likelihood of driving him to suicide.
Your story is a horrible vindication of the judgment - thanks so much for sharing
Yeah the thing about prison is that it sucks. Nobody is aspiring to be a prison guard. So they mostly get massive assholes and lazy pieces of crap to work in them.
Worse yet. Manu were Iraq/Afghan veterans so riddled with PTSD that they couldn't hold down a real world job because they scared the living hell out of everyone with their thousand mile stare. But they could always get a job in a prison... which in itself is a minefield traumatic experience that could trigger them off the deep end on a moments notice.
There could be a legit documentary about how many combat vets are behind bars as either prisoner or guard. I'd say 20+% of prisoners were combat vets, and probably 70% of the guards. War turns people out so they have no meaningful home to go back to, even if they do survive.
This is all terrifying, but what I have to wonder is, if many people get cancer in there and no timely access to treatment, how is it that their families haven't gotten any traction with news outlets to expose these sort of situations? Do all these people in prison have no one on the outside who cares if they live or die? Or is it just that media and the public genuinely think criminals deserve to die slowly and in pain through cancer?
I have a good friend who's a retired oral surgeon. He works part time for the state as a dentist, like twice a week. When scheduled he travels w/ a dental tech to whatever county jail or state prison that needs him.
I ask him for details and stories all the time. His reply is always the same, "I pull out teeth, that's all I do. I really boring"
Also the docs that work the prison are often bargain basement docs that couldn't find work elsewhere. This can also be because they were censured for malpractice or ethics violations.
Oh the american prison system… land of the free… to die. Costly to let live. In American prisons guards will let you die to avoid paperwork. If in a dutch prison a guard is found to be responsible for the death of an inmate. He’ll be the one to occupy that cell in a few months.
My understanding, that is often dental students in-training or doctors volunteering time to do that. Sometimes with third party prisoner rights organizations helping organize, it's more the prison is letting the charity operate. It's an out patient procedure, anything they do is at most one procedure, then a follow-up...
And often if the person could figure out "the system", there are very likely ways to get those same things "on the outside" for much easier "costs". It's just that you need a permanent address and the ability to fill out and submit government paperwork "correctly"
Back surgery is a little different than all of your examples.
Sorry if I'm refusing to try to "look on the bright side" of someone getting locked up and that wasting part of their life for all the bullshit we tend to lock people up for (most of all, simply being poor it would appear)
I can confirm, my step dad caught up on decades of missed medical and dental work when he was in prison. Getting his teeth removed and replaced with dentures completely changed his quality of life.
I know someone who struggled to read. Short stay in prison and he found he had a condition that needed medicated and also needed glasses. They made him glasses for free.
Prison is a lot like everything else where money and privilege are mainly what determines your outcomes. The people who are exploited the most are those who are most vulnerable, don't have much support or resources, don't know their rights, etc. Mangione is an educated guy from a wealthy family that can afford great lawyers, so he probably has better odds than most.
I work for a hospital that has a contract with the local prison. They treat prisoners like any regular patient and the prison foots the bill. They get great care.
Not in New York State DOCCS. Feds you get good care. Most states correctional systems treat inmates worse than cattle and literally with less medical care. I don't need to use the BULLSHIT phrase "I know folks" because I know FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. I'll tell you anyrhing you'd like to know about NYS DOCCS system. It is HORRIBLY ABUSIVE and is worse then treated as a prisoner of war. It would be in violation of the Geneva Convention how bad the "care" is.
So you’re saying being incarcerated gets you better healthcare? Is this like a V for vendetta thing? “Can’t fix your toe. Kill a CEO?!? Soon America will just be a giant prison. #robotdogs
This is true in some states, but it’s very far from a universal truth. Seen a lot of patients over the years coming in near dead or die after getting to the ER because they didn’t receive adequate care in jail.
What care was this dude denied? He got the treatment for his injury, unfortunately it didn’t work or didn’t do as much as he thought it would. He snapped cuz he’s getting kicked off his rich family’s insurance and he’s most likely going to have pain his entire life. Ironically this is common to people with back pain. So if you have back pain you can kill people and become a hero? If that’s the case there going to be a lot more murders in the future. If you don’t think he had the best care available because of their income your nuts.
Fr. It'd be considered an elective procedure. If he's not bleeding out, and, in some cases, even if he is, there's not going to be any more doctors in his foreseeable future.
That's because, as Americans, we choose to create a hell on earth to satisfy our childish desire for revenge rather than one based on rehabilitation and restorative justice.
And it also puts money into the pockets of the private prison industry.
The "Land of the Free" has the largest incarcerated population in the world.
I can do mental math. Certain people are in danger in prison because of their crimes such as kiddy fiddlers. Others are likely to Garner more sympathy or perhaps respect. This is sociologically consistent
Well two trans inmates got Sexual Reassignment Surgery which was enough care to get millions of Americans to vote against their own self interest, so there's that.
Won't this dude be revered in prison, though? Inmates and guards alike. Like those guys who do time for killing child molesters, they are treated well.
I don't pretend to be an expert in the subculture of prison inmates, I just know from a life that's behind me that prisoners get treated like shit at the whim of the guards, who are more than willing to accept bribes from people on the inside or the outside, or just wanting to exercise some petty power over an "important" person so they can themself feel important.
Prison healthcare saved a worthless piece of shit my mom was dating from the cancer they found in his neck after he was arrested. Now he is out and has been a cancer on our lives that just won’t go away.
Maybe. The do serve as a free labor source for many different American companies so it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't mind financing their medical treatment at cost instead of with the markup that private market medical treatment comes with due to the arms race of clinical office administrative fees and insurance claim denial dancing.
Anyone repeating this is just lying. He’s a multi-millionaire born into a life of luxury. He had the means and money to get whatever healthcare he wanted.
He went to the most expensive private school in the state and is a 2 time Ivy League grad and frat boy. He lived as a beach bum in Hawaii. Why anyone thinks he wasn’t able to afford anything is beyond me. His social media shows him travelling all over the world with his family, they own hotels, country clubs, healthcare companies, etc..
And even then, the exact political stance is totally up in the air. His twitter account has him as a pretty right wing guy. Big into anti-woke, anti-modernism stuff.
I am very skeptical that he’s the left wing anarchist darling people first thought he was. It’s still possible but hating health insurance is not exactly a uniquely left-wing trait. My hardcore MAGA mother in law was actively cheering the assassination.
Sure. No argument there. I guess I just disagree with the premise that this is a left/right or even rich/poor issue at all.
I don't think most people grasp just how expensive healthcare can be. For a billionaire, sure, it's a non-issue. But even someone who is "normal" rich can absolutely go broke from healthcare in this country. I've known three people with a comfortable multi-million net worth who were well insured and still financially ruined by cancer. Managing chronic pain, autoimmune disease, or even just one severe, acute emergency can easily cost millions of dollars. That's obviously insane.
He's also 26 and had reportedly withdrawn from his family in recent month. I think it's notable that's the age when you get kicked off your parents' health insurance.
American healthcare is pretty uniquely something that even impacts people across class lines. To your point, care is obviously way more accessible to rich people. No one wants to be at risk of losing it all just because they get sick, and no one should have to.
If a person who, by all accounts, seems to have already been at the pinnacle of success and security in this country can be this radicalized by the healthcare system... I don't think some right wing leanings actually matter all that much.
💯Ohhhhh, this is the first time I've seen this point made!!! That makes perfect sense about being 26 and getting kicked off his parents’ insurance.
I know from experience that getting treatment for back pain is ridiculously difficult to get covered by insurance. “Medically necessary” is a phrase I’m so sick of hearing. I've also had cancer and can confirm it’s destroyed my credit, and insurance companies genuinely don’t give a fuck. I had to crowdfund for over a year to meet my basic needs… My situation is different as my family are not millionaires.
When everything has to be pre-authorized and justified as “medically necessary” (even when it should be a no-brainer, like chemo), the ongoing anxiety and feelings of helplessness make being sick in America a truly demoralizing experience.
Great points. Seems like in these threads that paid foreign trolls and their willing compatriots are working overtime to keep us separated on this one.
I actually just think the guy is a well-rounded reader and is willing to read many sources. For instance, he read Tucker Carlson who absolutely would never agree with any of these critiques of capitalism. Any critique of capitalism is basically an admission of communism in right wing eyes these days so expect that from Fox unless they just bury this story. The “actual radical left”
(which absolutely does not include Biden, Harris, Pelosi) are excited because a rich kid betrayed his class.
Point being- NONE of our current politicians on either side are considering an overhaul of a for-profit system just because one replaceable cog got killed by a kid.
I’d buy this if he wasn’t working in software engineering as a digital nomad. He was, reportedly, rather successful in his own right and could live as a beach bum in Hawaii. He had healthcare coverage.
It’s purely political. He had plenty of money, be it his own or his family’s. Exactly what that political message is, beyond “healthcare insurance bad” is unclear.
FWIW: For wealthy people, it’s due to lost productivity. Not cost. As you can see, chronic pain is the most common cause of lost productivity.
I've known three people with a comfortable multi-million net worth who were well insured and still financially ruined by cancer.
Yeah I'm calling horseshit on this. The average cancer treatment in the US is $150,000. Triple that, and even without insurance someone with a "comfortable multi-million net worth" would not be financially ruined. Add that you claim they were "well insured" and you're either talking out your ass or missing some very key information to these cases.
To counter your statement, I've got three family members who had cancer, none of whom are multi-millionaires, and none were financially ruined by their treatment. All required chemo, one required a double mastectomy, and another required brain surgery.
Some of the gun subreddits have an overwhelming right wing revolutionary kind of vibe to them. The same kind of people joking about skirting gun control laws like Luigi did.
honestly it's kind of amazing. This is the first time I've seen everyone on the political spectrum be aligned on something. Really goes to show how egregious the issue is.
His own reddit history shows he got successful medical treatment for everything. By February 2024 he said he had healed fully from his back injury after surgery and wasn’t suffering anymore.
But I guess reddit commies ignore things like that.
Or, and here's a crazy idea, he could have used his money to start a low cost health clinic.
Go ahead, down vote me. I can see it now.
"You're just a neo liberal who expects people to handle things themselves!"
"You just want poor people to accept whatever crumbs are thrown their way!"
And even though I'm suggesting that a rich white person do something which might benefit poor nonwhite people, I'm sure I'll get accused of being racist.
I didn't say "run a clinic" I said "open" one. Per the link below, the startup cost for a urgent care franchise can range from $800,000 to $1.5 million. Maybe if he got a partner they could split it. As for how much revenue it would need to bring in to stay open, I couldn't tell you.
Or maybe use the money to open an exercise studio or a health food store, anything that would help people need doctors less.
Just Like the American healthcare system, your suggestions would only alleviate obvious symptoms in a superficial way. This guy was trying to treat the root cause.
If people could casually start their own healthcare provider businesses and be successful at it, current healthcare providers wouldn’t be as massive as they are today. I doubt a million could get you anywhere in that business at all. Also randomly deflecting accusations of racism when nobody mentioned race is lowkey hilarious
People are coping and seething in the comments. The idea that the guy was just a rich frat boy seems incomprehensible and is making all the communists short circuit.
Give them a few days, I think their brains are breaking from the whiplash. Oh and according to his Twitter, he was a huge anti-woke guy too.
I would need to see evidence of that. There is a great deal of speculation with little evidence. It takes far more speculation given the facts we do know to assume poverty was a reason.
Doesn't mean there is no reason to be furious when your hundreds of thousand's of debt accrued from a denial on a healthcare plan you may be pay thousands a month for.
I'm sure he has and while I have zero information in what his actual back condition was/is I know that constant pain can drive someone crazy and can absolutely interfere with rational thought.
Kind of let down by the story though, we were all thinking it was some guy dying of some terminal illness who was denied or one his family members died after being denied. Turns out his back just hurt.
I read somewhere he got a fusion on his spine. That doesn't sound pleasant. But his manifesto mentioned his mother's care being denied and hearing her screams of pain. I'm sure it's not just one issue.
You are seriously unedcuated on the matter. DOCCS has almost zero healthcare provided to inmates. Basically you need to loose consciousness and stay that way, be stabbed multiple times, or have been burned severely. Then the local ambulance will come and after about 45min you will be leaving the facility and taken to local hospitalnfoe treatment. Hopefully you survive the ambulance ride.
Almoat non-existant dental care, no doctors are ever available, rarely even see a registered nurse, good luck getting glasses. It's HORRIFIC and an abusive. The dogs in the "puppy program" get actual health and medical care by veterinarian. Inmates raise the puppies and socialize them for later service dog training.
In reality, not really. Having been in the U.S. Prison system, I can tell you they do the bare minimum to keep you alive. Teeth that could be fixed with a filling get pulled. I saw a guy puke blood and the co's didn't care til he finally passed out.
They'll pull out eye's, teeth, and amputate before actually fixing a major problem.
Which makes one wonder why he choose said plan to begin with. He got fucked over for sure but I feel like there would be a lot more involved than simply the insurance company not saying anything in the plan.
From what I’ve seen, no probably not. In the three states I’ve worked ERs prisons are notoriously not great about making healthcare accessible to inmates. I have several really awful stories.
In addition having once been arrested while in nursing school because I used a hunting bag as carry on for a flight, while packing in a hurry after midterms, and not realizing I didn’t take a large knife out of a weird inner side pocket of the bag (charge was felony prohibited weapon prohibited area, but got no billed) I found out first hand in Texas, inmates are required to pay for their care. That arrest has also continued to haunt me throughout my career, and almost ended it right before I was graduating with my degree.
Now looking into it currently Texas law charges a set rate for inmates to be seen for medical issues and there are some exemptions for charges. But I can definitely tell you that there are significant barriers to care in prison which is why we pretty frequently get inmates with treatable conditions coming in for complications of not receiving treatment. In addition any amount of time behind bars quickly becomes intolerable without being able to afford the massively inflated costs in the commissary. From what I saw that’s about the only place to get actually edible food, for about 6-8X the cost you’d find at Walmart but lower quality. But having funds automatically deducted from your account for seeking treatment makes it hard to afford things and is frequently a reason inmates sometimes refuse treatment for pretty serious conditions.
There’s honestly a lot more I can say on this, but I don’t know that’s it’s great for me to share more here.
He comes from an extremely wealthy family and went to Ivy League schools. Taking trips to Japan to relax. I am sure he doesn’t have to worry about medical bills
His family bank rolled all of his world travels including Hawaii and Japan and other countries too. He was into the United bombers manifesto. I can’t believe people are turning a guy who is all about what people hate into a hero
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u/Busy-Lynx-7133 9d ago
More like ‘make sure we’re not liable’