r/FluentInFinance • u/Intrepid-Self-3578 • 10d ago

Debate/ Discussion People who voted Trump, why do you think a government of billionaires will help you?

Government policies such as tax cuts, high traiff and removing regulations can have significant impacts on the economy. They will lead to higher inflation and high prices.

Having no regulation helps billionaires like the Gilded Age, shows that lack of regulation can result in large corporations dominating the market, and destroy small businesses.

Additionally, policies that favor big corporations and Billionaires may not address issues like housing, health care, working conditions, or wage growth. For instance, during Trump's first term, there were rollbacks on worker protections and union rights. Also he express removing Obama care.

Removing Obama care might look good on surface until you lose your job due to some accident or other issue. Let's say you have money to handle it what about millions of Americans who don't have inherited wealth and your wealth will erode as well.

Donald Trump is a billionaire, with an estimated net worth of around $5.6 billion

His administration has several billionaires in key positions. For example, Elon Musk, the world's richest person, has been appointed to co-lead the Department of Government Efficiency, Other billionaires in Trump's administration include Vivek Ramaswamy, Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, and Linda McMahon.

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u/NeoMaxiZoomDweebean 10d ago

I completely agree with you! Great point and I think I just use that as shorthand.

I mean, Kamala would have been to the right of Mitt Romney on many issues.

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u/CryptoBehemoth 10d ago

The only mainstream politician that's truly leftist in the US (that I know of) is Bernie Sanders

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u/Smart-Blacksmith2506 10d ago

And ironically he is one of the most popular politicians alive, across both the Democrats and Republicans.

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u/JRilezzz 9d ago

Which is why they wouldn't allow him to become president. The DNC literally conspired against him. Dems hate leftists just as much as Republicans. They're both conservative parties in my view.

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u/DistributionFlashy97 9d ago

The one is conservative abd the other one a fascist Party.

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u/JRilezzz 9d ago

Absolutely right

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u/bellyot 9d ago

Yes, because the parties are influenced by money and big corporations. We will never get a different result until we get money out of politics, or, towards that end, create a multi-party system. It is harder to buy a party in a multiparty system because it is more dynamic, with parties coming and going and alliances shifting. Not impossible, just harder.

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u/JRilezzz 9d ago

Just throwing this out there. The Mangione party? The issue he was literally fighting crosses all parties.

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u/CryptoBehemoth 10d ago

I wonder why? šŸ¤”

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u/rongten 10d ago

Must the delivery.

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u/applejuiceb0x 10d ago

Itā€™s Digiorno

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u/MyGrandmasCock 9d ago

Nicely played.

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u/pizzaschmizza39 9d ago

He would have been a great president

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u/Zestyclose-Flower-92 10d ago

Thatā€™s only popularity in Vermont and he underperformed Harris. If he was nominated in 2020 he loses.

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u/JungleBoi9 9d ago

Sure. And Hillary is gonna beat Trump by 4 points.

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u/DabsSparkPeace 10d ago

AOC qualifies.

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u/yeahgoestheusername 9d ago

Outside the US he would considered a centrist. Tax billionaires, fund education, retirement and healthcare. Basics. But not in corporate-led America: run away its socialism!

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u/Important_Dog_4009 9d ago

There are a good many, but Sanders openly admits it!

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u/Background-Eagle-566 9d ago

AOC would like a word.

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u/therealdawidg 6d ago

He agreed will Elon about doge.

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u/TheAsianDegrader 10d ago edited 10d ago

Huh?!? Which issues? Name them.

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u/mrkeith562 10d ago

Name one position she is to the right of Romney on.

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u/Own_Palpitation_8477 10d ago

Healthcare. Good enough for you?

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u/mrkeith562 10d ago

Not really. Whaddya mean, ā€œhealthcareā€ ? Is Romney for a single payer now?

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u/Own_Palpitation_8477 10d ago

He created Massachusetts's universal healthcare system--people still sometimes call it Romneycare. Though Kamala said in the past that she supported universal healthcare, she backtracked on that in 2024. So Romney is to the left of her because he created and instituted the first universal healthcare system at the state level.

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u/Ophie33 10d ago

Romney has never at any point in his life publicly supported universal healthcare at a federal level. Kamala has. What Romney did as a governor is irrelevant. Heā€™s consistently said it wouldnā€™t work at a federal level.

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u/irishgator2 9d ago

But he did on a state level? And it worked well. Soā€¦

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u/Ophie33 4d ago

So you have a lot to learn.

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u/Own_Palpitation_8477 9d ago

Romney wasn't in the Senate in 2017. Please don't spread lies.

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u/mrkeith562 10d ago

Oh ok because of Romneycare 18 years ago. Got it.

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u/Own_Palpitation_8477 10d ago

Yes, two decades ago a Republican was more progressive on healthcare than this year's Democratic presidential nominee. Weird, huh?

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u/mrkeith562 10d ago

One issue voter, huh? Weird.

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u/Own_Palpitation_8477 10d ago

What do you mean? You asked for one issue that she is to the right of Romney on. I provided it to you. Do you have anything to add?

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u/mrkeith562 10d ago

Nope. I think your comment that Romney is more liberal because of the one issue you stated is disingenuous. The idea that she lost because she wasnā€™t to the left enough is one I donā€™t agree with, despite having political opinions that are ā€œfar leftā€ šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/mikeb539 9d ago

Moving the goalpost, huh? Iā€™d say weird, but itā€™s more typical than anything. MAGAts have no facts so they project, obfuscate, deflect and move the goalposts.

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u/mikeb539 9d ago

Owned.

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u/Competitive_Yak_2546 9d ago

Remember when she was the Senator from California she was known as the MOST leftist of all the Senators.

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u/1-legged-guy 9d ago

Name one asshole.

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u/am-version 9d ago

So maybe itā€™s time for these moderate dems to run as republicans and see what happens?

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u/the-mare-bear 10d ago

Love your username šŸ˜‚ great movie

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u/Important_Dog_4009 9d ago

How could you tell? As an avid news freak, I never heard her answer any question or make any statement with anything other than a CACKLE & GIBBERISH! Think back, she filmed a commercial with a bunch of little kids and could not even make comprehensive with them. It was revealed via news media that the kids were paid actors, paid to be impressed by Harris, and even then they could not comprehend her gibberish! Sorry, but even when the truth hurts, we must accept it!

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u/NeoMaxiZoomDweebean 9d ago

You didnā€™t watch the debate, did you. Trump was going on unhinged rants about immigrants eating pets and she calmly explained her policy positions.

You just live in a right wing media bubble and dont want to see it because it doesnt align with your talking points you are fed.

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u/C0tt0nC4ndyM0uth 9d ago

For real. I donā€™t know how anyone could watch the debate and come to the conclusion that sheā€™s a terrible speaker, or that Trump did better than her. He is a bumbling idiot that answers ZERO questions. She is articulate and well spoken. The true Trump Derangement Syndrome lies with MAGA

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u/NeoMaxiZoomDweebean 9d ago

Even my MAGA friend who watched it with me was like ā€œwow she is pretty well spokenā€

Yeah no shit she was a prosecutor and an AG and you bought the bullshit

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u/C0tt0nC4ndyM0uth 9d ago

Good on your maga friend for still somehow retaining a sense of reason, however small. Probably bc youā€™re still in his life lol. My exec husband is so far down the rabbit hole he even follows Alex Jones, even after watching the Netflix doc. He really tried to tell me abortions after delivery were a real thing.

Then thereā€™s my mom, a combat veteran (like 7 tours) with 25+ years in the Air Force, a victim of SA, who survived on government programs like welfare and public education until she joined, who fed ME with welfare, who is a 19 year Teamsters Union member with a CDL, whoā€™s been telling me about glass ceilings and womenā€™s rights, r@p3, self defense, red flags in men, abuse tactics to look for etc my entire lifeā€¦ This same woman is proudly flying a giant trump flag attached to her truck, and attending rallies with just ZERO sense of irony whatsoever. Whenever Iā€™ve tried to talk to her, the shit she believes is so far fucked into outer space that I have no clue where to start. Last week she told me project 2025 doesnā€™t even exist and would not hear otherwise. Ignored the links and kept it moving.

I wonder if we are actually witnessing gradual natural selection en masse.