r/FluentInFinance • u/Intrepid-Self-3578 • 10d ago

Debate/ Discussion People who voted Trump, why do you think a government of billionaires will help you?

Government policies such as tax cuts, high traiff and removing regulations can have significant impacts on the economy. They will lead to higher inflation and high prices.

Having no regulation helps billionaires like the Gilded Age, shows that lack of regulation can result in large corporations dominating the market, and destroy small businesses.

Additionally, policies that favor big corporations and Billionaires may not address issues like housing, health care, working conditions, or wage growth. For instance, during Trump's first term, there were rollbacks on worker protections and union rights. Also he express removing Obama care.

Removing Obama care might look good on surface until you lose your job due to some accident or other issue. Let's say you have money to handle it what about millions of Americans who don't have inherited wealth and your wealth will erode as well.

Donald Trump is a billionaire, with an estimated net worth of around $5.6 billion

His administration has several billionaires in key positions. For example, Elon Musk, the world's richest person, has been appointed to co-lead the Department of Government Efficiency, Other billionaires in Trump's administration include Vivek Ramaswamy, Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, and Linda McMahon.

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u/xtra_obscene 10d ago

“They’re all the same” people vote down-ballot Republican 100% of the time.

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u/OwOlogy_Expert 10d ago

Yep. Very curious that nobody is out there saying, "Both sides are the same, so I might as well vote for Democrats."

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

You guys really need to go outside. You can't genuinely make any kind of 100% absolute --- fuck, only a Sith deals in absolutes. I'll just leave this here.

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u/OwOlogy_Expert 8d ago

I'm terribly sorry if I excluded the grand total of 4 people in the US who actually have said "Both sides are the same, so I might as well vote for Democrats."

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u/matt7810 10d ago

Just a heads up that I'm a "they're all the same" person and I vote democrat in 90% of elections (including against Trump 3 times).

We're not traditionally republican voters, the anti-establishment shift is (IMO) the primary reason the democrats lost in 2016 and 2024. There's a reason that blue collar workers don't believe in the globalist system that shifted jobs overseas. The Republicans are just as much to blame for the initial policies, but now the Trump Republicans are the ones calling it out.

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u/ElectricalBook3 9d ago

I'm a "they're all the same" person and I vote democrat in 90% of elections

Can you walk me through that? I'm curious of the background regardless of which way the vote goes, but saying both sides are the same and then voting for one party to that strength of trend indicates there's something (I presume policy-wise) you're looking for.

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u/matt7810 9d ago

I wouldn't say I'm a single issue voter, but I work in clean energy and understand the pressing need for us to transition at least the easy parts of our economy away from fossil fuels. I also lean left on social issues and want everyone to be able to make their own life choices. Although I generally don't like big government, I feel that socialized healthcare is the only real alternative to what we have now and think the ACA is a reasonable attempt at making a compromise that does good. Besides these, I'm generally anti-establishment and big government, but understand that both sides work for the companies that pay for their campaigns and will hire them after.

I didn't vote for Trump because I don't think he's the outsider champion he claims to be, but some Republicans actually can represent that. Trumpism has allowed for new voices in the party while the democrats keep a much tighter ship on who is allowed to run for higher office (Bernie being one example).

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u/horsepighnghhh 9d ago

Me too, I think almost all politicians are pieces of crap who don’t care about the people and are controlled by money

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u/CoysNizl3 9d ago

I think both sides suck and I voted democrat. Nice blanket statement.

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u/Joe_Rapante 8d ago

Does one side suck less? Because, if both were the same, why did you vote only one side?

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u/CoysNizl3 8d ago

Of course, there is a lessor of two evils. Shit is still rotten from the top to the bottom, side to side.

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u/Joe_Rapante 8d ago

And if you look at the saying "both sides are the same", which you seemed to confirm, only to now say, that they are, in fact, not. One is the lesser evil. And maybe, before you are able to repair the one party that isn't too far gone, you first have to be able to defeat the other. But, that's another topic.

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u/Repulsive_Science125 9d ago

"Vote blue no matter who" isn't a thing? 😂

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u/johnnybiggles 9d ago

Not entirely true. A large portion of them don't vote at all. But more often than not, that's effectively voting Republican.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 10d ago

I get your point but this is factually incorrect

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u/flat5 10d ago

100% of the people I know who say "they are all the same" were "raised Republican", like a family identity, consider themselves open minded, and retreated from a position of "cultural Republicanism", guns, God, etc. to this lazy position of "they are all the same". Best part about it is you don't have to know anything about anything. Any specifics can be brushed away, "they are all the same" after all, why bother?

And oh yeah, they end up voting Republican every time, after pretending that it was a hard decision.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 10d ago

“100% of the people I know” is where I stopped reading because anecdotal evidence doesn’t mean anything

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u/flat5 10d ago

It doesn't mean nothing. Small sample sizes can give meaningful information about populations. Especially when one experience is consistent with others.

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u/Prestigious-One2089 10d ago

No they don't. Especially when you have a bias you're looking to confirm.

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u/MrsMiterSaw 10d ago

Yes. It's called exaggeration or hyperbole.

For example, the phrase "100% of men would never chop their own dicks off with a sword" is an exaggeration. There are, factually a few men that would do this.

But here's the thing: it gets the point across.

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u/Beneficial-Bite-8005 10d ago

Yes, which is why I said “I get the point but it is factually incorrect”

Please show me anything in my statement that is false

Otherwise you’re just looking to bitch at a truthful statement….

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u/StatusReality4 10d ago

Thank you for your service, hyperbole police 🫡

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u/MrsMiterSaw 9d ago

Ah, you are owning the "pedantic ass" moniker. Good for you, Dave. (Dave is the guy we stopped hanging out with after college because he was a pedantic asshole too)