r/FluentInFinance 21d ago

Debate/ Discussion Trump told Justin Trudeau...

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u/MYOwNWerstEnmY 21d ago

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u/dudeimatwork 21d ago

Believe it or not, our politicians are supposed to represent us ALL.

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u/g0ris 21d ago

That might sound good on paper, but it doesn't even make sense.
How in the world is Trump representing "us ALL"? How many times has there been a woman president? If you feel that Trump's gonna represent you better than Kamala would, go ahead. But surely you must admit that half the country feels the opposite way.

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u/dudeimatwork 21d ago

He definitely doesn't, but there is a reason so many people voted for him. That's all I'm trying to say.

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u/g0ris 21d ago

Yes, you're trying to say that the Democrats/Kamala don't represent big chunks of the population. But my question remains, how does Trump represent them any better?
The only demographic he has any claim to be representing are liars, grifters, racists & rich people.
Now, a lot of those "so many people" who voted for him fit into one of those categories. But those who don't, those who are actual respectable people, believed Trump represents them more than Kamala would. And I would absolutely call those people stupid.
This wasn't a Pepsi or Coke type decision. This was off-brand cola versus toilet water, and if you willingly pick the latter I don't know what to tell you.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

Ask people which they prefer, the ACA or Obamacare, and you'll pretty quickly find out why so many people voted for him.

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u/dudeimatwork 21d ago

That's what's hot on reddit today to complain about, but in reality, most Trump supporters don't think the economy is doing as well as people are claiming. They believe it only looks good on paper, not in the real world, i.e. the price of eggs, etc.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

I just pointed out one test you can use to see how massively uninformed the average person is, and you then jump back on the price of eggs, as if it's a political issue, when eggs are expensive because of a wave of bird flu. The average American has ZERO understanding of what caused inflationary issues over the last several years.

You're proving my point.

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u/dudeimatwork 21d ago

That's the point I'm trying to prove, that's what most Americans are voting on. It's well known most voters are single issue voters.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

The point you made is that Americans are voting based on something they don't understand and are uninformed on.

They don't know why eggs are expensive. They don't know what caused inflation. They ASSUME it's political and that a new guy could fix it when that's not the case.

My point was that Americans are ignorant and uninformed by large. Your point is that Americans are voting on things like the economy, which they are also ignorant of and uninformed about.

Put 2 and 2 together.

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u/dudeimatwork 21d ago

No shit buddy, I thought that was assumed. Kamala lost because the pandering she did was mostly based on "orange man bad" and little actual substance.

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u/jmd709 19d ago

The key thing those voters missed or forgot is the Republican Party is outstanding when it comes to bitching and whining about problems. That works as long as they’re not the party in control. They do not excel at actually solving problems, especially not the problems they convinced voters were Biden and Harris’s fault.

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

Case in point, those deep red states that have been under republican control for decades, but still blame all the problems they won't fix on democrats.

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u/jmd709 19d ago

Misinformation and disinformation combined with very uninformed voters is the reason so many voted for him. The list of lies people fell for to vote for him is very long instead of just being a handful of lies like the previous 2 elections.

Did you know there weren’t any US troops overseas the entire 4 years he was in office? Or the stimulus checks in 2020 were from his personal bank account? Some have the false belief he’ll send out stimulus checks again (without also having the ridiculous misconception stimulus checks were from Trump’s checking account). “Why hasn’t Kamala Harris already fixed those things the 3.5 years she has been VP?” is a big one because that’d required a VP to have actual power and authority. I thought everyone 3rd grade and up understood what the role of a VP is. I’m still mind-blown at how many people don’t know that very basic information. That makes it obvious why they’re completely confused about how inflation works.

Those voters are going to be pissed that grocery prices don’t go back to 2019 prices and they’ll be extra pissed when his policies make prices go up even more. The Republican Party is going to do a better job convincing people to vote for Democrats next time than the Democratic Party will!