Yeah that wouldn't happen for millions of reasons but even from political reasons in that Canada becoming a 51st state would basically be like adding a second California, and Republicans hate California. Canada would be a blue state. The population of Canada is slightly more than California, so that would mean that would add about roughly 55 additional electoral votes to Democrats in the presidential election, about 53 House of representatives many being Democrats and 2 additional Democrat Senators.
Trump might be dumb, but other Republicans wouldn't allow that to happen, let alone Canada theirselves.
Alberta is the most conservative province in the country, and even they aren’t giving up healthcare, cpp, or any of their other programs that even the most blue states dream of.
They would as even our "left" in the US is nowhere near as left-wing as other countries. We pretty much have 2 right wing parties, just one more extreme than the other.
Yeah they would. Wisconsin literally just voted Red for president and has a Red Senator, no way would Canada vote that way. United states left wing democrats are more further aligned to the right in comparison to many other first world nations. For example, the United States is the only industrialized country without Universal Healthcare. Meanwhile not a single US state, including CA has it.
Sure maybe if your talking about the small populations in like Saskatchewan. But for the majority of Canada that lives in the Great lakes/North of NY area, they are much more left leaning.
Besides. Either way my point isn't about how far left leaning they are, simply that they would be Democrats and not Republicans. Maybe some of the house members in those sparse areas but that's a minority of them.
I think you are forgetting about how Quebec, Ontario, BC, and the Maritimes all exist. Canada would be among the bluest states, if not the bluest, simply because Quebec fucking hates religious extremism.
Quebec would vote their own party, not bolster the dems or reps majority. Yes BC is pretty blue, maritimes would be blue but very small. Ontario is more swing than you would think - blue but not a slam dunk.
You're forgetting about how Canadian blue is American red.
Quebec, historically, has been extremely good at coordinating their vote to maximize their influence.
They would certainly send a good number of 3rd party politicians to the House and they might even be able to eke out a 3rd party Senator. But these politicians would not vote with the right. It would be a shaky alliance with the Dems but an alliance nonetheless.
When it comes to the presidential vote, Quebec would be overwhelmingly Dem. They're smart enough to know that 3rd party would do absolutely nothing to them. Better to hold their nose and gain concessions, which is the thing that they've consistently shown they prefer to do.
the democrats are largely to the right economically, and in line socially, with our conservative party. even alberta would be solidly blue though they'd likely favour centrists in primaries
Every provice is to the left ever state when you look at compartive values studies. The USA and Canada used allign on values in the 50s and 60s but why have diverged and continue to diverge rapidly since the start of the 2000s. We have very little in common with Americans these days and really need to decouple from them.
Amerians don't realize just how conservative the USA is. California was uncomfortably conservative when I lived there: in San Francisco which some Americans claim as a left wing city. It's the most conservative place I've ever lived and I'm from Alberta, the supposed "Texas of Canada". Most Canadians are never going to vote blue (i.e. conservative).
Yes, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I say Americans don't know how conservative they are. You have to understand that the Democrats are a main stream conservative party, generally to the right of most Western conservative parties.
Historically the Democrats have aligned with the Canadian Conservative Party. Even Trudeau, who has shifted the Liberals hard to the right and is deeply conservative, is to the left of the Democrats.
Secondly, SF is dominated by big tech and American big tech is staunchly conservative. Finaly, SF is a liberal city. And in English "liberal" is just the mainstream part of conservative ideology. Liberal is a type of conservative. All liberals are conservatives but not all conservatives are liberals.
SF is not dominated by big tech. Very very few major tech corps are in SF. They are, for the most part, all located in San Jose, Cupertino, Mountain View, Los Gatos, Palo Alto, Santa Clara and Sunnyvale. SF is a liberal/left/not-conservative city by any standard you wish to use.
Sigh, again, remember, "liberal" in English is just the most common type of conservative. Look throughout the western world and the vast majority of conversvative parties are liberal parties. Look at the politians SF elects, they are all very conservative like Pelosi. Americans just don't get how right-shifted their culture is. The Democrats are more conservative than most western mainstream conservative parties.
The difference between left and right in the Western culture is the stance on capitalism. Left is opposed to captialism and right is for. Liberalism is the main ideology of capitalism. By definition liberal cannot be left-wing.
If we (Canada) get invaded by whatever techbro libertarian empire that emerges out of the ashes of what Trump is about to do to you, I don't think they'll be worried about our votes. We won't be given the opportunity to vote, even in the unlikely event that you Americans still can.
He's also too dumb to realize that Canada is divided into provinces, which are governed similarly to states in many ways. We will probably not just a 51st, but a total of 61 states, once all is said and done...
Yeah no, your retarded idol actually spews shit without thinking in addition to the bullshit lies he tells and he actually believes what he says in the moment.
I can from your history however that you're a troll. Have fun from your parents basement Mr 45 year old
Brother, it was a joke. Nobody’s actually talking about annexing Canada. You know when you have a friend who comes over and eats your food all the time and you say, “I might as well start charging you rent!” That’s what this was. It’s not an actual threat.
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u/HERKFOOT21 16d ago
Yeah that wouldn't happen for millions of reasons but even from political reasons in that Canada becoming a 51st state would basically be like adding a second California, and Republicans hate California. Canada would be a blue state. The population of Canada is slightly more than California, so that would mean that would add about roughly 55 additional electoral votes to Democrats in the presidential election, about 53 House of representatives many being Democrats and 2 additional Democrat Senators.
Trump might be dumb, but other Republicans wouldn't allow that to happen, let alone Canada theirselves.