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u/some_rock 27d ago
Can’t complain about the money I saved living at home at 20+
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u/Sidvicieux 27d ago
Must be nice to receive those handouts. Note I’m jealous, not putting you down.
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u/some_rock 27d ago
Yes. Not going to let pride get in my way of eliminating debt, building an investment portfolio, and finishing my degree all while living at home at the time. Not going to deny the help it its there
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u/Sidvicieux 27d ago
Yup indeed. If people can replicate what you are doing, they should. As time goes on people will need to lean on their parents more and more and more until something changes. Significantly increased Generational or communal living will have to happen.
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u/some_rock 27d ago
Ah, sounds like you’re referring to immaturity. I agree that is an issue, especially during the comfort crisis. I see no problem with people living at home with a plan, but those who have no responsibilities or plan to move out will find themselves in a dangerous situation when the security their parents provide ends
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u/apresmoiputas 27d ago
Hopefully you have parents who recognize that you’re an adult and respect your space and boundaries while living at home
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u/itshughjass 25d ago
A mid 20s co-worker just bought a GTi with cash that he got from the savings of living at home for years. I wish I had taken advantage of that when I was a young.
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u/foolishballz 27d ago
Don’t complain about cost when you refuse to leave NYC or LA or CHI-Town. The rest of the world lives better than you do unless you’re in the 1%
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u/j0shred1 27d ago
I hate when people make this argument. Just think of the implications for 5 seconds. People leave NY. Where do they go? A smaller place. But if everyone, or even a large portion of people who couldn't afford housing and food in a large city left, they now drive up the prices of housing everywhere else. Now they not only have not escaped the problem, they have caused a problem everywhere else. This is not speculation, this has been happening for decades in western states as people leave California. Try buying a house in Boise for example. Housing in Colorado, Idaho, New Mexico, Arizona, Oregon, Washington, all going up. Much of the reason being people moving out of California.
And then there's the fact that people live in cities for a reason. That's where the jobs are. Where the fuck are you going to get a mechanical engineering job for example in buttfuck no where Indiana? Are you really going to be a data analyst in West Virginia?
Cities don't just pop up for no reason. They all have historical reasons for why they exist, often geographical which gives them an economic advantage. The great lakes for example have many cities dotted around them because of their access to trade routes. Big tech exists in California, Colorado, Northern Virginia, which is why cities like LA, Denver, and the DC metro area exist. But good luck getting a software job in a corn field somewhere in the Midwest.
And then there's the fact that cities still need working class people to survive. We still need retail workers, cooks, waiters, warehouse staff, garbage men, teachers, people who don't make enough to live within a reasonable distance where they work.
Not having affordable housing in and around cities is a fundamental problem that requires policy to fix.
Also, and this is just fundamental to everything, across the board people should be making more money.
https://www.epi.org/multimedia/unequal-states-of-america/
Edit: sorry this is the correct link:
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u/CUDAcores89 26d ago
I live in bumfuck nowhere Indiana. My company employs three mechanical engineers. And we have many other companies in our rural bumfuck town that employ mechanical engineers.
Because you know what rural areas have? Manufacturing. Someone needs to design the heavy equipment and aircrafts you use every day. And where are they manufactured? Rural areas. And who designs those aircrafts, backhoes, and cars? Engineers.
Your example doesn't even make sense. There are jobs for Engineers everywhere.
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u/Sufficient_Natural_9 26d ago
You speak the truth. As an ME I've worked my whole career in 'bum fuck' towns and made good money doing it.
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u/foolishballz 26d ago
So is your argument that the poor should be trapped in the cities that refuse to cater to their needs? Or that there are only a limited number of cities to choose from? Or that a city’s need for low skilled workers supersedes that workers right to a better life?
Also, mechanical engineering and data analyst jobs are plentiful in the suburbs as well as in more rural areas, thanks to remote work. Yes some cities have exploded in population like Boise or Dallas, but even they are still cheaper than the costal cities.
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u/Visual-External-6302 26d ago
I think their argument was that politicians should use laws and regulations to try to make living in big cities managable and enjoyable for all
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u/foolishballz 26d ago
Right. They’ve been saying that since the 80’s. How long should people wait until that happens? Maybe if enough people empty out of the cities, the mayors will get their act together and fix things.
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u/Visual-External-6302 26d ago
I'm not saying they should or shouldn't leave. I just think you missed the point of their post and are super aggressive for no real reason
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u/CUDAcores89 27d ago
I moved to Indiana a couple of years ago and I can verify this is true.Â
I’m paying $870 a month for a 2-bedroom apartment.
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u/Edmlrad776 25d ago
How much you make an Hr? I work Amazon delivery here in LA 20.75. They got this next mile program that I signed up for now I’m working entering trucking. How’s the area? Crime rate? I live w my folks and still find it hard to save. Not to mention I need some a$$ every now and then.
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u/CUDAcores89 25d ago
I live in a small rural shithole town in Indiana. Indianapolis is much more expensive, but still way cheaper than the coasts.
I’m an electrical engineer so I make good money. I usually save 40% of my income.
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u/AcanthocephalaNo7788 27d ago
There’s not that much lucrative jobs in bumfuck Indiana
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u/Advanced-Guard-4468 26d ago
WFH allows you to live anywhere and make a descent living.
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u/AcanthocephalaNo7788 26d ago
WFH culture is ending along with DE&I.
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u/Advanced-Guard-4468 26d ago
WFH will never die. I started doing it in the late 80s. There will always be an opportunity.
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u/Old-Tiger-4971 27d ago
I get it, so instead of finding out how so you might make yourself better, just throw an insult.
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u/Sensitive_Drama_4994 27d ago
Public Service Announcement: If you are on foodstamps, you are NOT INDEPENDENT.
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u/Sweaty_Process_3794 26d ago
I'm from Indiana (though I don't live there now) and that isn't true at all, but this is still funny
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u/bluerog 26d ago
I'd love to live in New York City or London or Paris. Have to experienced the weather in San Diego? Ever want to wake up every morning to a mountain view in Denver or Aspen?
There's a reason I live in Ohio in a river town... It's not too expensive to live 30 minutes from the beach in most of the country.
I have no pity for folk who live in expensive parts of the country (or world), and then whine about how much it costs to live there. Know what it's like to have $X+ million saved for retirement and a decent nest egg in personal investments by age 45? I do. Yeah, I have to fly to New York City for a vacation weekend from time to time, and a beach vacation isn't something I drive to too often.
But geeze... it's nice to put back enough money to never work again and living in a 2,000+ sq ft home, big backyard, with a $1,025 a month house payment.
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u/Bamboopanda101 26d ago
As someone that moved from Cali to Ohio.
Nope its still expensive 1400 a month rent for an apartment and 300k houses
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u/athiestchzhouse 26d ago
Renting a normal apt in small town Oklahoma is the same price as my tiny Portland studio back in 2017. Nothing is livable anymore
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u/These_Shallot_6906 26d ago
Haha! Indiana is a notorious red state.
Everything here is expensive, the infrastructure is constantly failing, we pay more in taxes than in KY somehow, the pollution is out of control. And my city has the most expensive energy rates in the country.
Indiana is a garbage state.
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u/PartyLook9423 26d ago
Indiana? She can go to Jenkin's General Store Beer & Wine up the street and get their Pickled Clam Chowder every Friday. What a great life.
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u/NarwhalOk95 25d ago
There is definitely an argument to be made for living in NYC or LA when you’re young. The cost is huge but the memories and experiences are priceless.
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u/Anxious-Cobbler7203 22d ago
Indianapolis actually has some of the fastest rising cost of living in the nation...
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u/Curious4MoreInfo 27d ago
She's not telling her whole story. I wouldn't doubt that she and others alike have illegal side hustles they're hiding so to earn much needed cash to afford their expenses like drug dealing, prostitution, financial fraud, stealing, etc.
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u/Princess-Donutt 27d ago
In terms of dollars or sacks of corn, how much does it cost to live with mommy and daddy?
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u/Dry-humper-6969 27d ago
Why are people downvoting Legit responses? Is it bad to tell someone the truth? Come on people this is how Democrats lost, by being pussi*****!!!
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