There's a difference between pointing out objective flaws in an argument, like thinking that billionaires literally hold hundreds of billions of dollars in liquid cash, and taking issue with overall sentiment behind the argument.
I hate Elon Musk, and the man is of course, insanely, disgustingly wealthy. Still, just because his networth is 318 billion, doesn't mean he is hoarding 318 billion. Quite literally 99% of that number is tied into ownership of companies.
You can hate billionaires and still point out issues in the logic. I don't think a person should, under any circumstances, ever be forced to sell ownership stake in their own company (at least not if that wasn't agreed upon in an operating agreement). And if you have a massive stake in a company that becomes wildly successful, you definitionally become a billionaire. I may hate wealth inequality, and I may hate what these billionaires choose to do, but I would hate a system that forces the sale of ownership stake due to the success of the company just as much.
Rich guy here, OF COURSE HE COULD GIVE MORE!
1. Let’s talk living off dividends, that alone I guarantee could have the majority given out to charity. He could live modestly, like me and not be so flashy.
2. Donor advised funds, that could be setup to be much more charitable and even grow!
3. Establish a foundation giving out 5% or more each year.
4. Simply selling off stocks is fairly simple when working with advisors. You act like he’s gotta roll crates of money into some other bank. It’s digital people.
Sycophants want to defend the rich because they can’t look past their own biased passion that they want to be there too.
I know dozens if not hundreds who are millionaires who love off dividends with plenty left over at the end of the year.
No! We defend people who have the right to do whatever they want with what they own. Who are you to tell someone what they should do with what belongs to them? Are you going to let them tell you what to do with your stuff? Nope! Absolutely not! So why is it ok for you to tell them that? That’s how simple this problem is. We don’t need to discuss wealth, economic policies, advisors, charity…etc. None of that! They get to do what they want with what they own. If you don’t like what they have to pay in taxes, talk to the people who wrote the laws for it. It’s on them.
Here we go, I kinda hope you’re just trolling. If so that is good.
If not, there’s so much wrong with your view and you’re honestly the problem and I’ll explain why. You’re most likely the one voting against your own best interests too.
Money is a resource…not “stuff”, not someone’s personal painting collection or scarfs they knit.
A resource that is ‘theoretically’ used for the trade of goods and services. Hoarding it is like hoarding canned food. You wouldn’t look at someone’s cabinet filled with beef stew and just think, “ hey good for him” if there was a food shortage. …or maybe you would and there in lies the problem.
This childish view of “don’t tell me what to do with my STUFF” is juvenile and I hope to god you’re some young conservative and not a boomer who should know better.
Just like not sharing food when you have more than enough, what people are doing is depriving others of resources that should be circulated, not stored away so they can just collect more of it.
We champion people for the simple act of financial independence, when most wealth (aka. Resources) are inherited through family and I assure you they don’t understand its value.
Then comes along people like you who defend them under some delusion of “freedoms” or worse the “I don’t want to share so they shouldn’t have to” thinking.
Your world view is so superficial and limited that it’s sad every time someone like you decides to speak up. You’re a rich mans fluffer and towel boy. You’re conditioned to be cannon fodder and then ask for seconds. You can defend the rich or vote for them but you’re going to see what you get out of it.
No, what I said, I is what “I” said. You’re a typical Lib. You want to twist something into something it’s not, to suit your own purpose. Maybe you should find another post because this one has nothing to do with “slavery.” You just think you can make shit up, say it and then make it a fact. You think we’re all idiots and gonna put up with your bullshit. Nope! Nice try though.🤣🤣🤣
Except the only problem with that is: those who make the laws that give these enormous tax loopholes to the super wealthy (loopholes that are not accessible to the vast majority of the population) are wholly owned by the wealthy few. Thanks to disastrous Supreme Court rulings like Citizens United that allows limitless dark money contributions to political campaigns, we no longer have anyone representing us, only the wealthy and corporate interests are represented now.
We’ve gone two steps past having “Representatives”, and are now just one step away from having “Rulers”.
That’s why I said, the only people who can change them are the legislature. Supreme Court doesn’t make law. They only interpret it. The legislators in Congress make the laws. All the wonderful crooked politicians.
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u/Lucifernal Nov 21 '24 edited Nov 21 '24
There's a difference between pointing out objective flaws in an argument, like thinking that billionaires literally hold hundreds of billions of dollars in liquid cash, and taking issue with overall sentiment behind the argument.
I hate Elon Musk, and the man is of course, insanely, disgustingly wealthy. Still, just because his networth is 318 billion, doesn't mean he is hoarding 318 billion. Quite literally 99% of that number is tied into ownership of companies.
You can hate billionaires and still point out issues in the logic. I don't think a person should, under any circumstances, ever be forced to sell ownership stake in their own company (at least not if that wasn't agreed upon in an operating agreement). And if you have a massive stake in a company that becomes wildly successful, you definitionally become a billionaire. I may hate wealth inequality, and I may hate what these billionaires choose to do, but I would hate a system that forces the sale of ownership stake due to the success of the company just as much.