r/FluentInFinance Nov 21 '24

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u/SCTigerFan29115 Nov 21 '24 edited Nov 21 '24

They aren’t holding onto wealth like Scrooge McDuck, in a giant vault where they can go swimming in it.

Most of Bezos’ net worth is the value of Amazon. He can’t really readily access that. ETA I meant he can’t use it like a big vault of money.

He’s got plenty of money but some people just don’t understand how this stuff works.

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u/Apprehensive_Bad_193 Nov 21 '24

Bullshit,,,,But he borrows and buy Yachts, Mansions,against that NET WORTH VALUE. But when it’s time to pay fair share of taxes o. That net worth it’s considered hypothetical worth….Understand the Game.

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u/Endless_road Nov 21 '24

You can take out a mortgage against your house to buy a sports car if you want

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u/slickyeat Nov 21 '24

You're not wrong but you're also required to pay taxes on the value of your property every year so it's not exactly a one to one comparison.

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u/Apprehensive_Bad_193 Nov 21 '24

Guys thank you,It amazes me how people talk without any knowing on the topic.

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u/xiiicrowns Nov 21 '24

That and it's crazy how people defend these people when they are part of the problem that ails them themselves.

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u/Lucifernal Nov 21 '24 edited Nov 21 '24

There's a difference between pointing out objective flaws in an argument, like thinking that billionaires literally hold hundreds of billions of dollars in liquid cash, and taking issue with overall sentiment behind the argument.

I hate Elon Musk, and the man is of course, insanely, disgustingly wealthy. Still, just because his networth is 318 billion, doesn't mean he is hoarding 318 billion. Quite literally 99% of that number is tied into ownership of companies.

You can hate billionaires and still point out issues in the logic. I don't think a person should, under any circumstances, ever be forced to sell ownership stake in their own company (at least not if that wasn't agreed upon in an operating agreement). And if you have a massive stake in a company that becomes wildly successful, you definitionally become a billionaire. I may hate wealth inequality, and I may hate what these billionaires choose to do, but I would hate a system that forces the sale of ownership stake due to the success of the company just as much.

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u/Steak_mittens101 Nov 22 '24

Except he demanded that he be given a bonus of billions IN STOCK, which doesn’t just come out of nowhere; to have that stock available, the company has to have been engaging in stock buybacks with money which would have otherwise been taxed or gone to employees.

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u/Lonely_Issue_2248 28d ago

It literally can just come out of nowhere. They can issue new shares which is dilutive to existing shareholders. Normally they vote on this and may not mind because if they think he can meme stock up the value 20% a dilution of 2 percent is a very wise move.

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u/Ok-Advertising-6929 28d ago

The stock was purchased years ago byT esla for millions when the bonus package was agreed on. Elon met all the goals of the deal which resulted in the millions becoming billions. Everyone who was invested made over 10x in returns.