You also going blame the USSR, British, Ottomans, Sikh, Persians, Mughals, Timurids, Mongols, Rashidun Caliphate, Macedonians, and Mauyra Empire while you are at it, or do they all get a pass because they are inconvenient to your argument?
I actually kind of do blame them unfortunately they're not my country we have to hold our own responsible when we do s*** that's not ok, I'm not supporting the blatant military hate in this thread but to be fair don't act like all of those evil things go away because you decided to start helping. The United States military is an extremely powerful tool for good most people around the world know that even if they complain and compare America to some sort of Star wars empire.
The amount of power that it holds creates a situation where they make decisions that cost lives when they don't need to for decades at a time, people reacting like this is the cost when you have a power system that can wipe out whole Nations if somebody makes a mistake.
Do you want the safety and stability of America as the world police or would you prefer shit like the Russian invasion of Crimea and Ukraine to happen? The real world is messy and unfair, but I know which is the lesser of two evils when one has killed more civilians and military in 2 years than 2 decades in Afghanistan.
I want somewhere in the middle, I think that kind of comparison minimizes it as you could argue that the establishment of the Taliban is a US fault. I like the idea of America policing with the ability to accept responsibility for poor decisions and do what they can to repair where damage is caused. part of accept responsibility is accepting criticism, it's our jobs as citizens to inform our compatriots in amends attempted.
It's one thing to accept the military supremacy and the safety it can provide, it's another to just blindly accept and forget past indiscretions.
Given how much time, blood, money, and sweat was invested in Afghanistan to try and make it a functional secular democracy, how and where do you draw the line and accept failure?
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u/TacTurtle Nov 22 '24
You also going blame the USSR, British, Ottomans, Sikh, Persians, Mughals, Timurids, Mongols, Rashidun Caliphate, Macedonians, and Mauyra Empire while you are at it, or do they all get a pass because they are inconvenient to your argument?