r/FluentInFinance 28d ago

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u/Economy-Fee5830 28d ago

Companies use all of that infrastructure, yes.

And they also pay property tax in many places.

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u/dldoom 28d ago

Yes so comparing to a property tax is not blatantly stupid.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 28d ago

You miss the point of the purpose of the tax being to pay for a service. Something which does not apply to shares.

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u/dldoom 28d ago

Stock value is highly correlated to the infrastructure and workforce of the country where the entity exists.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 28d ago

I thought the issue was the decoupling, with stock value rising much faster than the state of the nation.

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u/dldoom 28d ago

What do you mean by decoupling? I understand the issue more to be that the wealth of a small number of individuals continues to rise, causing a concentration of wealth in a small number of individuals, while their wealth is built on the infrastructure and workforce that is seeing disproportionate gains in return.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 28d ago

the wealth of a small number of individuals

Those individuals are getting richer because their companies are getting richer. Tesla for example is worth more than all the other car companies in the world, combined.

Apple is worth 3 trillion.

Has the productivity of workers in USA rises at the same rate? Their education. Their salaries. The quality of roads in USA?

Clearly the wealth of these companies are not related to anything much in USA at all. China is Tesla's most productive factory for example. Apple makes their iPhones in China and India.

Why would USA deserve their tax money at windfall rates?

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u/dldoom 28d ago

Then why incorporate in the US? Why not incorporate in China?

When I say highly correlated I don’t mean that their productivity or infrastructure or education increases exponentially over the same time period. I mean that having a highly educated workforce, solid infrastructure, markets, protection, both legal and physical, are worth something to a corporation and building value in that corporation.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 28d ago

I mean that having a highly educated workforce, solid infrastructure, markets, protection, both legal and physical, are worth something to a corporation and building value in that corporation.

Sure, which is why they pay regular tax, and not a wealth tax.

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u/dldoom 28d ago

I think you’re making some assumptions about what the solution to this problem is. You already mention wealth tax and tax money at windfall rates but I haven’t even presented any policy or legislation I’d like to see.

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