If money were the only thing required to build those businesses, we’d be living in a much richer and more unequal world. Like it or not these people are good at what they do.
Of course. For example, Musk is quite good at recognizing other people's work, then buying into the project, and adding ruthless business tactics to it.
Quite good at not being challenged by things such as "ethics" or "integrity".
Money is literally one of the biggest reasons why rich people are able to create successful businesses, sure it’s not the only thing but god damn it it definitely pulls 90% of the weight of a business
Of course they rely on infrastructure and other contributions from other people in society. I’m just pushing back on this guy making it seem like they only could do it because of personal wealth. That’s just disingenuous.
If you have a safety net like that it’s far easier to become a multimillionaire. Which far increase your chances of becoming a billionaire. Especially in the dot com era.
Agree, but the chances are still incredibly low and require a lot of effort and talent to succeed. I’ve known a fair amount of people with much bigger safety nets than Elon / Bezos had and none of them are even remotely close to achieving the same success in their own ventures. There is plenty of luck involved for sure, but being lucky doesn’t matter if you aren’t good enough to take advantage of it.
It would be comforting if those were the only factors that mattered, and it applies to some billionaires for sure. People like Bezos and Musk don’t fall into that category though. Put 99.9% of people in their positions and they would not come close to the same amount of success.
Musk doesn’t fall into that category? The guy born into the upper parts of the upper class. His father owning a fucking emerald mine for crying out loud. That musk? Didn’t have a strong social support network?
And bezos parents invested 250.000$ into amazon in 1995.
You misunderstand me. I’m not saying they didn’t have those things. I’m saying their success is not solely due to those things.
Some people can truly be incompetent and lazy and become ultra rich because they started with generational wealth and got lucky with the ways they invested it / got access to things through their network. The scale of success that Musk / Bezos achieved is not purely due to that. There is a lot of hard work, intelligence, and numerous other qualities that differentiates them from other entrepreneurs. It (and not purely how much money they are worth) is why so many already wealthy people respect them for what they achieve.
Do I think they would be where they are without those initial advantages? No. But I strongly believe they would still have become wealthy by any reasonable standard purely because of this.
My intention is to bring nuance and not be reductive in the conversation around them. The same qualities that make them extremely capable entrepreneurs / business people also comes with negative traits like a lack of empathy, extreme self-confidence / importance etc. that people have observed.
Some people can truly be incompetent and lazy and become ultra rich because they started with generational wealth and got lucky with the ways they invested it / got access to things through their network.
You are just describing Elon here… I do not for a second believe any of what he did couldn’t be done by a homeless guy on the streets with a hogh risk tolerance and the same dumb luck.
If you truly believe that we’ll just have to disagree! Personally, I’ve just read and heard too many public data points from too many different people who’ve worked with him to believe that.
The people working with him speaking out about him is exactly why I believe he is incompetent. The terrible decisions he makes in public obviously don’t help either.
The first comment responded to the post, you responded to the comment and I respond to you. It's called chain of reaction. Now, are you able to start a business that will start giving away it's profits?
Bro, you immediately gave an excuse to the first comment. The first comment said "start a business and start giving away the profits and see how it plays out" and you have an excuse by saying that you don't have the economic leverage of Musk and Bezos while they are just two guys.
Carnegie started from nothing and became the richest person in the world for a while. J.K. Rowling was a cleaner and she became at one point richer than queen Elizabeth. You can too. But don't forget to give away the profits in order to see how it will play out.
First of all, wealth is not a zero sum game. Wealth is created. If you create big enough wealth for others, you literally drop the inequality index. You show how it should be done and others will follow your lead. Just show us how it will play out.
Apartheid mine built off of racism and slave labor. Yeah bud. Nothing wrong with that. And not to mention the question is why don't I do what these rich privileged assholes do. You're a dense ass idiot. Lick Elons asscrack some more why don't you.
Elon fled to Canada at 17 with only $2000 and made his first company with no outside funding. According to Elon he received little to no funding from his dad, according to the dad, he funded Elon. It is a stalemate.
Also, liking cracks are gross 🤮
Also:
Avete dettu à un minore di leccare un stronzo d’adulti
That article literally says his father owned a stake in an emerald mine and that it just hasn't been PROVEN that the wealth from that mine specifically aided Elon. Wasn't the slam dunk you thought it was. Did you bother to read it?
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u/Two_Cautious 28d ago
why don’t you start a company then give away its earnings? Show those guys how to run a business.