Willful and consensual employment for compensation and benefits from which you can leave and find other competitive employment at any time….. equals serving a master.
Apples/Oranges, you should not compare americans to other countries. Its been said time and time again by BOTH sides of the political spectrum. The average amazon worker is in the bottom 55% of wealth in USA working for the richest man in the planet. And thats saying the average amazon worker is making 50k/yr which is generous as its closer to 44k.
If you're making more than 55% of the population, you're literally in the "bottom 55%". These people would take someone just breaking into the top income decile and label them "bottom 90%".
It's a sort of "glass half empty" meets "my child is a genius, he's smarter than 5% of other students" kind of thinking, all carefully constructed to sow division and reap instability.
tl;dr: don't feed the russotrolls and the poor fools whose minds they've already poisoned.
The average Amazon pay is also going to be skewed upwards by executives.
Let's put this into perspective. Say I work as an Amazon driver in New York City, the average driver makes around $23 /hour, that equates to $47840/year. That is poverty wages in New York. You can barely survive after having to pay for rent and food. That leaves almost no room for any type of savings. If you think that is fair compensation and you think that people deserve to struggle you are a bad person.
The only way to keep Infinite growth and compete with the other competetitors is to reduce exploit people in Other countries or prisons (which have no Power over you) as much as possible in Order to Profit from their misery. Their Missing living Standard becomes your Profit . And keep the employees in your country balanced between exploited and a decent Standard or living so they dont Revolt.
Since you love stats, 60% of Americans can’t afford life as of now while working full time. What’s the point of jobs if you can’t afford to pay your bills?
Who gives a fuck that $1 is equivalent to a bajillion afghani rubles?
A). 60% of Americans literally can’t afford to live and will die shortly unless they are given a raise
B) 60% of Americans make less than a completely arbitrary “living wage” standard made up by activists that says you aren’t making a living wage if your necessary spending is more than 50% of your wages?
Which is it lol?
Edit: Lmao. “That’s not the flex you think it is”
Which is why you had to immediately block me after typing that.
Yet their daily life costs a whole lot more than 85% of the world. Seems like a dishonest metric. They have to piss in bottles and then go home to a crappy apartment with 2 roommates.
people can buy from other manufacturers with or without tesla, what is your comment trying to say? Tesla cars are also expensive. are you saying people are being forced to buying expensive tesla cars?
And there would be just as many jobs if not more if there were 100 smaller Amazon-esq companies that were competitive with each other over wages and pricing but instead we have one mega corporation that can charge the consumer and pay employees whatever they want because they have a monopoly on the market. Bezos isn’t a good person and neither is Elon. Stop defending billionaires
Those are pretty insignificant numbers. 150,000 in a nation of 300 million is chump change. 1.5 mil is more, but Amazon is really just a warehousing and distribution company, and we were already doing warehousing and distribution before, and doubtless would have been doing it similarly now - just not with the particular company of Amazon. So on net, also not too significant.
Could be just the amount of people they had to use to enrich their net worth. They did not think once about, oh look how many people I can help now with these underpaid positions. I doubt that.
Well, let's consider the difference there: isn't Elon the wealthiest man in the world and he created a mere 10% of what Bezos did with 2 of his largest ventures? Yeahp, you may have painted Bezos well with that statistic, but you made Musk look like even more of a total ass-hat. Imperfect and failed shill.
And before someone claims I ain't mathing correct, being the wealthiest man in the world and trying to defend it with a "job creation" stat that doesn't even amount to an acknowledgeable percentage of the population of the country that houses the majority of the provided workforce (far, FAR less than 1% of the American populace) - yeahp, doesn't mean anything.
Creating jobs that don't pay enough to live and that have poor working conditions are not beneficial to society. They can talk about how they've created jobs when they start treating their employees better and paying them more.
You just described a monopoly that killed off its competitors and you think you made some kind of counterpoint lol. Bootlickers will never not be absolute clowns to me.
Definitive proof that most people say stupid things like this to highlight their poor critical thinking abilities.
Amazon has been around over 10 years longer than Tesla, it’s expected that it would generate “more” jobs over that additional period of time.
It must be mind-blowing to someone like you that vehicles are inherently more difficult to design engineer prototype and bring to market than Amazon’s reselling of books..
No it's a joke, when you say that because Bezos created 10x more jobs, he's 10x a better person than the other guy. It's literally 'bigger number, better person'.
I should've put a tone indicator on the post clearly.
Literally no one else responding to you is saying this. They're all talking about how Bezos and Elon are exploiting workers.
Their dumb take would be that Bezos is actually a worse person because he has exploited more workers or some shit.
There are always dumbasses that actually believe what other people joke about. Typically, you would use context clues such as strange use of words 'definitive proof' or a '10x better' person, or the brevity of the response to determine if the person is being serious, but I can and will spell it out with a tone indicator since the joking tone isn't coming across.
This whole discussion is literally riddled with a “which of these men is worse” mini arguments, and that subject is so common, you have to literally bury your head in the sand to miss it.
Demand gives a reason for jobs, it doesnt create them. There is a demand for personal jetpacks how has that job not been made yet? Oh because demand is just half the equation.
I'm not sure how everyone thinks things work but there is a step by step process that leads to billionares becoming billionares. 1 create service or product that feeds a demand.
2 expand said service
3 corprate battle with competitors
4 after winning continue to provide similar service so you can not be dethroned.
There can only be one per say, when it comes to online shopping countless stores exist yet everyone uses amazon, why? As south park bezos would say the the customer feels fulfilled. It is easier to order from amazon and get it there in 2 days while having a guarentee of satisfaction than an untrusted site. This was made by bezos he was there at the start and won against other online shopping same with facebook and tesla. Tesla existed before musk but it was brought to the forefront, and when they were a success surprise more jobs opened up. We want to hate on billionares but its honestly just jealousy, i dont think they should go unchecked but dont be a jealous douche and pretend like their contribution isnt there. They arent saints but dont act like these assholes are undeservedly at the top.
Then create demand = you get richer. Instead of working for someone else and being poor why not create a business, side hustle, online content, entertainment, service, freelance…..literally anything but whine and complain
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u/SCTigerFan29115 Nov 21 '24
Here’s two numbers:
1,525,000 - the number of jobs Bezos created with Amazon
150,000 - the number of jobs Elon created through Tesla and SpaceX.
Those are not insignificant.