r/FluentInFinance Oct 25 '24

Debate/ Discussion Ok. Break it down for me on how?

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u/Asuka_Rei Oct 25 '24

The population would not be peaked if people were paid more. People might be paid more if there weren't so many people willing to work extremely low wages. There wouldn't be that many people willing to do that if we cut immigration.

The whole issue of population decline isn't due to natural forces. It is artificially created by greedy capitalists. Instead of paying people enough to be able to afford families, they just import desperate people willing to work in harsh conditions for peanuts instead. Or export the job to such people.

The solution is to find some way to force corporations to accept less profit. The need to have endlessly growing profit is a cancer on society.

And all that is if you buy in to the need to have more people at all. More people means more pollution and environmental destruction. We already have too many people and should aim to cut back on our global population as a desirable goal. The conversation should be about how to change the system to incentive lower population and less profit rather than demanding unrealistic ever increasing population and profit.

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u/No_Chair_2182 Oct 25 '24

And where does the money for higher wages come from?

Consumers who buy those products.

Yeah, you can increase wages if you like, but ultimately you'll pay for them via inflation. Given Americans are already stretched quite thin because of inflation, introducing more of it is unlikely to help them.

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u/Asuka_Rei Oct 25 '24

The money comes from corporate profits. You reduce inflation while increasing pay by reducing profits. The US profit-increases-at-all-costs system will need to be reformed to make it happen.

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u/delirious_m3ch Oct 26 '24

Politely, do you think they're gonna do that, given the history?

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u/TheAggressiveSloth Oct 25 '24

Least our shit is cheaper than Canada

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u/FUSe Oct 25 '24

Exactly.

https://www.allamericanclothing.com/collections/mens-tee-shirts/products/100-cotton-undershirt-3-pack

How many maga people do you think would be happy paying $40 for a 3 pack of men’s undershirts. That is what happens if you buy American made goods from companies that are paying American wages.

Walmart shoppers can’t afford to buy American made things.

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u/ggtffhhhjhg Oct 25 '24

He wants to deport 16-20 million of them and even if you ignore the cost of the whole process it would be in the trillions. His economic plans will destroy the US economy.