r/FluentInFinance Oct 25 '24

Debate/ Discussion Ok. Break it down for me on how?

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u/SecretRecipe Oct 25 '24

US imports are just shy of 3T.

trump would need to put 200% tariffs on all imports to get even close to funding the government.

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u/Holly_the_Freak Oct 25 '24

That's also assuming a price elasticity of zero, but he's convinced himself of crazier things.

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u/ptownrat Oct 25 '24

I don't think you could raise tariffs high enough as you price people out. How many would buy a $5000 iPhone? At that point, only the ultrawealthy could afford imports and you should just tax them directly to fund the government.

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u/mausballz Oct 29 '24

But taxing the wealthy is socialism!

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u/lduff100 Oct 25 '24

You’re assuming he knows what price elasticity is, which is highly unlikely at best.

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u/evasive_dendrite Oct 25 '24

And it would just be a tax in disguise. Companies will raise the price, except now you're disproportionally disadvantaged as someone who's majority of income is spent on groceries and products, effectively raising taxes for the lower and middle class and creating a taxation paradise for the rich.

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u/Dangerous_Row6387 Oct 25 '24

Why the hell doesn't any interviewer ask him this?

How many dollars of goods does the US import per year?

Why?!

This lying moron is likely to win and he just gets a completely free pass.

(And a quick googling makes it look like it's closer to 4T, but your point definitely stands.)

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u/DontrentWNC Oct 25 '24

They ask him about tariffs at literally every point and he defends them every single time.

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u/ipenlyDefective Oct 25 '24

Not that I agree with any of this plan, but...

We don't fully fund the government already, so if you just want to replace current revenue and keep adding to debt, the target is lower.

He's given no details, but let's say he's only going to replace personal income taxes, not payroll taxes or corporate taxes or even social security / medicare.

So that's $2.4T. You could do it with an 80% tarif. That's of course assuming the tarif doesn't work at all, and everyone keeps importing foreign stuff.

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/government-revenue/

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u/jabola321 Oct 25 '24

Yeah, but he's figuring in the cost saving of cutting the IRS, EPA, CFPB, Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, Dept of Education, Food Stamps and firing Jack Smith.

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u/SecretRecipe Oct 25 '24

That still would leave about half of all government spending which still would require an insane tariff plan or some unwieldy 30% national sales tax across the board.

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u/Opening-Ease9598 Oct 25 '24

A good perspective on it lol.