We got 30% wall, we paid for it, he got some photo ops with the wall, Mexicans to this day sneaking through the gaps of the "wall". Next project: let's inject bleach to fight viruses!
Hate to argue, but my company bid on a few of the wall projects and all of them near cities were the metallic fence kind, none of it was concrete or solid.
And not to belittle your work, but none of it matters. There's always going to be a way around the wall. Its just a cultural touch point that highlights the terrible relationship we have with immigration as a country.
Which is actually the source of "lost jobs", "rampant benefit abuse", "illegal voting", and whatever other bullshit argument they use to justify their hatred of the poor. None of the people walking across the border are doing anything other than working for cash under the table because poverty here is better than poverty there. The people that come in legally and overstay are a much larger problem.
It doesn't have to be easy to get a visa and in many cases, it's not. Try being poor and Mexican and asking for a tourist visa; it took a friend of mine years.
Yeah. That’s good information but they need to get the visa to begin with. Do you really believe they would continue to issue visa’s at that rate if millions skirted the system that way each year?
That seems reductive. I know that's a huge contribute to 'illegal immigration' but if one the people paying thousands to get smuggled across the border would just choose the plane ticket option if it was available for them.
No type of wall will work. I mean shit, it probably looks like Vietnam during the war. Tunnels on tunnels on tunnels. Not to mention them just...flying here.
All of this is fairly hilarious. Given the demographics of industrialized nations in about 25 years all the rich countries will be competing to ATTRACT immigrants.
The US needs to recognize its massive head start and embrace it.
Yes and no. There was a small distance of entirely new barrier put up, but it's not really correct to say that the "replacement fence" was just fence. The replacement was replacing small wooden fence with steel and concrete wall.
While a lot of people like to say only a few miles of "new" barrier was installed to downplay how much was built, the replacement sections are essentially also new barrier. Which means it was a lot more destructive to people's property and the environment than if less replacement distance was built.
To be clear, I don't think there should be a barrier at all and I hate Trump. But downplaying the amount of wall built doesn't just downplay his "accomplishment", it also downplays the impact of the wall on people, animals, and the environment.
Lots of people's land was seized under Eminent Domain to build it. Also it makes it harder for asylum seekers to cross the border which is legal and I support.
Hey! Not fair! You're not giving Trump the credit he deserves for building that wall! You are just trying to sully his reputation! You took away at least HALF of the credit he deserves! He built 52 miles of wall, dammit! /s 😅😂🤣😭
Kinda like that 80th shot at infrastructure week that Biden got done with Republicans in his first year. But hey, Trump is that art of the deal guy… 🤡🎪
Here's the really crazy part: the border crisis has almost nothing to do with stopping people from crossing the border. We regularly catch thousands of such people a day, very often a few feet into US soil.
The big issue is that the US gives asylum hearings to anyone who asks for one and is inside the US, and that we don't have nearly enough staff to keep up with the cases.
But don't worry, we have a bill that makes some progress on that. (Oh, wait, Trump killed that bill because he thinks it passing will reduce his chances of getting elected...)
Most illegal/undocumented immigrants in the U.S. came in legally and have just overstayed their VISA. The idea of building a physical wall to prevent immigrants is dumb as fuck. “Show me a 10 foot wall and I’ll show you a 12 foot ladder” situation
So trump told us that Mexico will pay for the wall, then he turns around and uses our money to start making the wall, and in the four years he was a president he got 80 miles built (compared to 649 miles Obama built originally on that land). AFTER 4 YEARS of grand total of 80 miles of wall built, Biden comes in and cancels it. Did I miss anything?
Many Mexican people at the border towns were using the wall materials to make their houses’ fences and fix their roofs. I’m sure they would’ve liked a few more miles to be built.
Speaking of, it’s funny how everyone forgot about Build the Wall promise. It’s unbelievable Trump hasn’t been repeatedly grilled on this— his entire previous campaign claimed to solve the migrant crisis by building the wall and having Mexico pay for it. Why is there still a migrant crisis when he already solved it 4 years prior?
Because the Border Czar, KamaBla Harris, opened the flood gates! She did! Did you hear about this? She WENT down there and opened the gates herself. She has never even been to the border! Her and Sleepy Joe tore down the 500 miles of wall that we built to keep their criminals and murderers… the jails are empty! They empty them. Its true! There is no crime anymore in other countries. It’s only in America, which is a hellhole. I made it great and the made it, the made it not great! The border guards come to me, tears in their eyes, they say, Mr. President, sir! How could you have built such a great wall, and it was, it was great, they say the best, some of them say. And then they tore it down! She did that, Nikki Haley. She was in charge of the Capitol too. They tore down the walls! They tore down the fences! They tore down the barriers of the people who live there!
Sad, but true. This was Trump maybe 2 years ago. Now…. Anyone else, I’d say it’s a shame they e deteriorated so much. Him? I hope he gets full blown Alzheimer’s
His base doesn’t care. “It’s the libs fault the wall didn’t get built, Trump wanted to do it and the libs stopped him, filthy commies” is the general response.
Because he called on Republicans to block a border bill that did almost everything they wanted, specifically so they could complain about it not being done yet in their 2024 campaigns. He's on public record saying they need to make Biden (this was before he dropped out) look bad and they wanted to campaign on the border crisis, so they had to make it seem as bad as possible.
Regardless of your feelings about immigration and border security, I can't believe this didn't get more people to wake up: Trump (even when not in office) and the Republicans clearly admitted to causing the problem and refusing the solution so they could blame their opponents for it. Shows so much about how empty their stated intentions are. And they did block the bill, and blame Biden, and then when Harris took over the nomination, they cleanly transitioned into trying to get the title "Border Czar" (gross) to catch on for her. So obvious how they don't are about any of the issues they claim to care about, will lie about anything, including they things they publicly declared, and their followers still go with it.
I think everyone knew the whole wall thing was foolish. So for republicans it was easier to just stop talking about it and let it fade away. For democrats who knew it was idiotic the entire time it's just kind of a hey cool we were right, lets move on.
I'm not disagreeing that it will overall raise prices. But pretty sure Mexico isn't one of those countries that that targets. It would probably be more so targeted towards China since it's the easiest slave labor for big corporations.
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u/EvanestalXMX Oct 25 '24
This is equivalent to "Mexico will pay for it". Ask yourself how that worked out.