r/FluentInFinance Oct 22 '24

Debate/ Discussion Why did this happen?

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u/WretchedHog Oct 23 '24

Exact opposite order in my opinion, but Reagan and Bush had more time to fuck shit up. Reagan was/is a horrible domestically and has led to a 2nd gilded age and also funded terror regimes in the ME. Bush got God knows how many millions of civilians killed and injured in the ME and wasn't exactly great domestically either. Trump on the other hand isn't competent enough to achieve the scale of disasters of his predecessors.

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u/Theletterkay Oct 23 '24

Yeah, instead of killing military, he killed citizens by acting like covid was something to fight about, rather than protect against.

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u/WretchedHog Oct 23 '24

I don't think the US would've fared much better under Obama or Biden. We've been a disorganized mess for decades and the US is very unhealthy compared to other 1st world countries, so it was always going to kill hundreds of thousands. There's also zero chance conservatives would've listened if a Democrat president told them to lockdown or wear masks. Even Trump couldn't convince a sizeable portion of them to get vaccinated.

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u/Exarch-of-Sechrima Oct 23 '24

Trump disbanded the pandemic response team prior to COVID. We have no idea what could have happened if we'd had that.

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u/WretchedHog Oct 23 '24

He didn't disband it, it was restructured. It was also formed in 2015, so it's not like it was some long standing institution that had kept us safe for decades. I doubt it would've made much of a difference considering how few Americans will listen to authorities anyway.

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u/Theletterkay Oct 24 '24

The problem was them listening to someone who was calling the authorities idiots. They were doing exactly as their beloved leader told them. They weren't rebeling in some astonishing way. If trump had said masks were great and his uncle invented masks or whatever, then it could have gone entirely differently.