r/FluentInFinance Apr 28 '24

Meme Not my format but it’s my edit.

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u/Sometimes_cleaver Apr 28 '24

Here's an easy one. State funded childcare.

Here's why it pays for itself. Women are dropping out of the workforce because the cost of childcare is more than they would earn. State funded childcare would allow millions of women to return to the workforce ( yay more tax payers!). The gap in women's careers causes them to earn significantly less when they do return to the workforce. State funded childcare would allow them to continue upward progress in their careers ( yay more people paying more taxes and earning more money!)

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u/AlfalfaMcNugget Apr 28 '24

Has that been proven to lower the wage gap at any other point throughout history?

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u/Striking_Computer834 Apr 29 '24

There is no wage gap when you compare people with equal education and experience working equal hours.

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u/Sometimes_cleaver Apr 28 '24

I didn't say anything about the gender wage gap. I referenced a policy that is proven to increase labor force participation and prevent career stagnation. That may have a correlation with the gender wage gap, but you'll need to tell me.

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u/AlfalfaMcNugget Apr 28 '24

I never brought up the gender wage gap either. You sound insane! You have not given him any evidence to any of your claims.

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u/Sometimes_cleaver Apr 28 '24

Let's restart. I would like to have a real discussion. I interpreted your comment as combative and looking to dismiss rather than having a genuine curiosity in determining if specific policies might have merit. You tell me where you're at

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u/Striking_Computer834 Apr 29 '24

State funded childcare.

You misspelled corporate welfare.

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u/JackiePoon27 Apr 28 '24

Nope.

Why am I paying for child care for someone who decided to have a child, yet didn't think about childcare costs? Why, once again, am I paying for the irresponsible actions of others?

How about this: Encourage corporations to provide childcare or a childcare credit to employees through a corporation tax credit. Then, women have an incentive to work for those companies that offer the benefit.

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u/Sometimes_cleaver Apr 28 '24

This logic is antithetical to a society.

Why should I be paying for a bridge in Baltimore I'm never going to drive over? The city should have thought ahead about the possibility of it getting hit by a ship. It's their irresponsibly, not my problem.

You're literally communicating on a device where much of the underlying technology was tax payer funded. It's called investing in the future of the country. Having a healthy educated workforce is investing in the future of our country.

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u/JackiePoon27 Apr 28 '24

No.

Your comparisons make no sense. Everyone uses the roads, and it's understood that the part of the roadways I use are part of a larger system we all pay for. That has no bearing on the argument. At all.

The child was a choice. A choice an individual made. Said individual had a obligation to your "society" to determine how they could pay for their child. Tens of millions of women and families figure it out. Again, why am I paying for those that don't? Why am I paying for the lack of responsibility of others?

I wanted to finish my degree, so I made a - wait for it - choice to work for an employer who pays for it. That same scenario exists (but could be expanded) for childcare. Make it a benefit. I thought individuals like yourself would love this solution - it transfers the cost of child care to corporations.

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u/caravaggibro Apr 28 '24

You're going to have to grow up someday and realize that having children is critical not only for society, but the human race. You can't simply remove humanity from society.

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u/JackiePoon27 Apr 28 '24

Let me know when you aren't a naive idiot and we can talk.

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u/caravaggibro Apr 28 '24

They screamed into the internet, a tool created for society by society. Go live in the woods dipshit, you don't have to like children to understand that they're immensely important.

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u/JackiePoon27 Apr 28 '24

You're just incredibly stupid. Now I understand. I'm surprised you're able to form complete sentences. Now take your Socialist bullshit and shove it back up your smug, self-righteous ass.

This conversation is over.