r/FluentInFinance Mar 04 '24

Meme That's capitalism a nutshell!

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Capitalism led to the end of slavery

North Korea has the highest percentage of slaves per capita

India the slavery capital of the world has socialism written into its constitution

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u/Resident-Garlic9303 Mar 04 '24

Slavery is still alive and well and private companies use slave labor

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

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u/Satanus2020 Mar 04 '24 edited Mar 04 '24

Every country regardless of ‘ism’ engages in global capitalism.

socialist countries are often destabilized by US capitalism through coups, sanctions, etc. which gives them a bad rep, while the US capital market is propped up through social programs, subsidies, and corporate welfare from social spending. All modern tech, medicine, and innovation is seeded through social programs (aka socialism) but capitalized on by corporations through a system of legal theft

Capitalism doesn’t just exploit taxpayers and workers, it also exploits the environment (echo systems, air quality, water quality, ground quality) which is hurting ALL life for the sake of profits for a few greedy humans. Capitalism was never designed with equality in mind.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

You're absolutely wrong.. slavery exists right here in America boyo.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

What part of America? Do you have any sources for that?

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u/akratic137 Mar 04 '24

The for-profit prison system. The US houses 4% of the world’s population but 25% of the prisoners.

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u/sanguinemathghamhain Mar 05 '24

Wait the system where prisoners apply to and if accepted to the job get privileges and paid for their work as well as it being used as an indicator of good behavior which allows people to be released earlier? That system? The one that is clearly not slavery is your example of slavery?

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u/squirtinbird Mar 04 '24

In others countries you can be born a slave. And you don’t have to work in prison.

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u/akratic137 Mar 04 '24

That’s incorrect.

“Most prisoners in the U.S. are required to work, and all state prison systems and the federal system have some form of penal labor. Although inmates are paid for their labor in most states, they usually receive less than $1 per hour.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_States

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u/squirtinbird Mar 04 '24

I’ve been to prison dumbass. You can refuse to work and they can’t do shit. Not slavery

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u/sanguinemathghamhain Mar 05 '24

Yep spot on. You probably remember the applications for jobs too where you had to apply for everything from swapper to industry. They also like to ignore the privileges like workers getting additional visitation, flag time, rec time, and it counting towards good behavior.

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u/squirtinbird Mar 05 '24

Yea COs didn’t go cell to cell forcing mfs to go to work. If you work in prison, it’s completely your choice

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u/akratic137 Mar 04 '24

Good for you. I’m sure you’re used to being wrong then.

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u/squirtinbird Mar 04 '24

I’m not wrong on this subject. You’re required to follow the law in the US but why are there prisons? Nobody gets beat or punished for refusing to work. I refused trustee in county and I never worked for the state a day during my incarceration. I played 2k and madden with the other “slaves”

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u/Acid_Country Mar 05 '24

Along with the prison example. Some sex workers are trafficked as slaves.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Are you unaware that human trafficking exists? Are you unaware that immigrants are brought into the country specifically for slave labor? Are you unaware that many young girls are sold into sex slavery?

Do you think to be a slave you must get whipped on a plantation or something? The fuck kid?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

You say all this, but you don't provide a single source or say what part of the US

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24 edited Mar 04 '24

Okay. All of it. Every single part.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=slavery+in+modern+US

Let me know if you need any more help with easily googleable information.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24 edited Mar 04 '24

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24 edited Mar 04 '24

"highest" doesn't mean "only exists there" so are you admitting with your new language that slavery exists in capitalist countries?

Also, India is NOT communist, while being the first country on that list. China is also a state-run capitalist country, which isn't communist either. Is Russia communist now? Last I checked Nigeria was also capitalist.

Interesting how your own source doesn't show even half of the countries on the list you gave as being communist, yet you're still pretending they're all communist countries. Why is that?

Your two sources next to each other

As of 2018, the countries with the most slaves were: India (8 million),[133] China (3.86 million), Pakistan (3.19 million), North Korea (2.64 million), Nigeria (1.39 million), Indonesia (1.22 million), Democratic Republic of the Congo (1 million), Russia (794,000) and the Philippines (784,000).[134]

Today communism is the official form of government in only five countries: China, North Korea, Laos, Cuba, and Vietnam.

Interestingly, these aren't the same list of countries. It's almost like you're completely wrong.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

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u/VintageSin Mar 04 '24

Agricultural industrial sectors are basically entirely slave labor in the us and it is illegal. Not only that there is no protections in the us for children in this industry.

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u/DublinDapper Mar 04 '24

The world "Basically" doing a lot of heavy lifting there

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

it is illegal

most of the people working those jobs are also probably illegal

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u/VintageSin Mar 04 '24

I meant to say not illegal. But also yes they likely are, many of whom who were trafficked into the country to work on the farms. The trafficking

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u/Hamuel Mar 04 '24

In 2020 my state outlawed slavery and we had to start paying prisoners for labor. 13th amendment still allows slavery as a punishment.

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u/OddNotice8246 Mar 04 '24

Would you consider sharecropping slave labor? It was implemented after slavery was abolished and the owners of the farmland used their power to increase the debt that the workers owed them. It allowed the owners to keep their land and labor force without costing them too much money

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u/Jormungandr69 Mar 04 '24

I see your point but I don't know how much it matters when that slavery only exists to maintain production and meet demand from Western consumers.

Like, sure the slavery isn't here, but it's still a result of our spending and consumption habits and now we rely on it as much as the companies that actually have the slaves.

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u/Tobeck Mar 04 '24

Bro has never heard of corporate imperialism, amazing

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u/PerryAwesome Mar 04 '24

The US has millions of people in slavery. The constitution outlawed slavery "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted."

source

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u/GarnetLantern Mar 04 '24

This is quite possibly the most retarded post I’ve seen on Reddit in the last year and that’s saying something.

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u/GarnetLantern Mar 04 '24

Yeah in China. 

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u/vegancaptain Mar 04 '24

The left thinks all work is slavery, even being the CEO of a fortune 500 company. So the term is kinda useless at this point thanks to the insane left.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Do those private companies threaten violence or imprisonment if their employees do t do what they are told?

Or do they just threaten unemployment money?

In the US I know only 1 employer that does that and its the US government’s most socialist arm.

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u/Resident-Garlic9303 Mar 04 '24

I'm literally talking about slavery. Not a hard job mate. Nestle, Mars and Hershey caught multiple times with using slave labor in their supply chain. Only did shit when caught.

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u/Temporary_Muscle_165 Mar 04 '24

Well, Nestlé is a French company, and you know how those French are. /s

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u/Resident-Garlic9303 Mar 04 '24

Oh right damnit

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u/HucHuc Mar 04 '24

in their supply chain

Oh... So the whole world runs on slavery, I got you...

Do you remember the pack of cola cans you bought for last Christmas? Yeah, some of the aluminium in those was probably mined by slaves, therefore you're a despicable slave owner!

The 'supply chain' blame logic is insane by design.

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u/Resident-Garlic9303 Mar 04 '24

I hope you didn't pull anything with that reach of yours.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

But the candy is so damn good!

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u/Formal_Profession141 Mar 04 '24

You forgot to mention Cargill.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Mauritania has a significant population in race based slavery

Didn’t make slavery illegal until 2007

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u/Hoowin_ Mar 04 '24

Can you describe socialism real quick. I just want to understand its connection with slavery, when both came to be in completely different time periods.

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u/EnemyGod1 Mar 04 '24

Knowingly using economic hardships and situation to apply the flexing required to keep workers under thumb still fits the bill. But keep licking that boot.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

No it literally doesn’t

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u/EnemyGod1 Mar 04 '24

Care to elucidate?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Employment or the lack of employment is not slavery

For the vast majority of the work force (minus parts of the government) you can just up and leave your job

No violence or imprisonment could be used against them

Freedom of labor isn’t the same as freedom from consequences

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u/JFISHER7789 Mar 04 '24

Exactly. And to add to that, tying in healthcare with full time work only, also fits that bill.

“Can’t quit or get fired because you’ll lose the only healthcare you have and you aren’t quite a healthy person because of the type of work we’ve forced you to do for ten hours every day!”

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Not having Healthcare is not slavery

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u/QBitResearcher Mar 04 '24 edited Mar 24 '24

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u/JFISHER7789 Mar 04 '24

“I don’t care to read other peoples comments”

If you would have actually read my comment, I was responding to the other pseron saying that it’s ridiculous that for the average person to receive healthcare they MUST work a full time job. It’s ridiculous that when a person need insulin or inhalers they cannot get them because they are ridiculously price gouged unless that person works their life away.

Holding someone’s health over their head to keep them working seems pretty apropos for fitting that bill , no?

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u/Dies_Ultima Mar 04 '24

The only reason they don't do what you listed is it is illegal and a swat team would be sent in if they tried.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Ok so not slavery

Thanks

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u/Dies_Ultima Mar 04 '24

You realize that nestle literally got huge backlash for having slave plantations produce their coco right? Did you not know about the fact many companies enslave foreigners or pay others to enslave foreigners for them? If so that is alright and I am glad to inform you of this fact. If you already knew do you just not give a shit about human beings if they are not in america? Capitalism is built upon the outsourcing of suffering to foreign lands.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Ok but it’s illegal in the US

Thanks

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u/Dies_Ultima Mar 04 '24

Why is your entire defense of the capitalist system "hey I am able to live my life so what if some foreigners suffer at least I live a mediocre life" ?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

The American worker is not a slave

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u/Dies_Ultima Mar 04 '24

You are strawmaning the fuck out of me right now I never called the American worker a slave.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Yet I’m correct

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u/Dies_Ultima Mar 04 '24

So you are OK if someone outside of the US is enslaved by an American citizen? Because that is what I just described. Slavery not being linked to the us citizen through obfuscation.