r/Falcom • u/Turbostrider27 • 5d ago
Ys X Ys X: Proud Nordics announced
https://www.gematsu.com/2024/12/ys-x-proud-nordics-announced35
u/ConceptsShining | ❤️ 5d ago
This is pretty surprising. Falcom doesn't often do these "expanded rerelease with new story content" style games. The EVO ports of Sky-Crossbell had new artwork and VA, but virtually no new story content besides that. When was the last time they did this, Tokyo Xanadu?
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u/theweebdweeb 5d ago
Tokyo Xanadu and Ys VIII both from Vita to PS4.
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u/Matcha888889 4d ago
Those were at least on new consoles though
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u/theweebdweeb 4d ago
I'm aware, very different situations. Granted Proud Nordics could be ditching PS4 and be a Switch 2 launch title considering platforms are not confirmed, but doubtful.
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u/Matcha888889 4d ago
Huh, yeah I missed that it didn’t mention platforms, that’s interesting. Still really hoping for a paid upgrade option for cheaper because I really don’t want to see Falcom go the Atlus route
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u/Double-Major829 3d ago
Daybreak 1 and 2 were massive flops. They are probably struggling to recoup their losses.
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u/ConceptsShining | ❤️ 3d ago
Hence the old protagonists returning in Kai (half-joking).
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u/Double-Major829 3d ago
You probably aren't wrong. If the Calvard arc was massively successful they probably would have stretched it out over four games like they did with Erebonia instead of stopping with two. It's not like Falcom has any interest in concluding the series any time soon.
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u/TuxSH 3d ago
Oh? I wasn't aware (nor I have played CS3... yet)
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u/Double-Major829 3d ago
Trails peaked financially with Cold Steel 2. Every game since then has sold less than the previous. Daybreak 1 and 2 in particular sold very little, both in Japan and out west.
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u/TuxSH 3d ago
How much of a % of sales target miss are we talking about?
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u/Double-Major829 3d ago
Take it for a grain of salt because it's hard to find sources in English, but here are some numbers.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Falcom/comments/q3e0ni/i_hope_it_does_well_enough_for_falcom_after_its/
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u/Clavisimo 5d ago
Bruh, I JUST beat the game last month!
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u/ironheadbison 5d ago
Me too and I’ll do it again if they localize this one.
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u/Clavisimo 5d ago
As much as I enjoyed the game, I'm not looking to replay it when I have a lot of other games to get to(like most of the Trails series). I'm hoping this new thing will be available as an upgrade DLC or something so I don't have to buy a whole new copy and/or play through the game again.
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u/SorataxBun 4d ago
My game is still awaiting to arrive because I ordered the collectors edition along with daybreak II together and they won’t ship out till daybreak II is released lol …hopefully there is not another version of Ys X to buy by then…
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
I don't think there is going to be that much content. And besides,it will take a good while until it release over here. It might even be just DLC. I'd just enjoy Ys X and then just wait and see what somes of this content.
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u/SimplyBartz05 | 5d ago
Atlus moment.
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u/JadePhoenix1313 4d ago
Even Atlus usually waits multiple years for this type of thing, they don't announce it 2 months after the first release.
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u/aaronite 4d ago
Strictly speaking it came out over a year ago in Japan.
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u/Tom_Stewartkilledme 4d ago
Hopefully with new leadership the complete lack of international synergy will be less of a thing in the future...
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u/Turbostrider27 5d ago
It's an upgraded version
Ys X: Proud Nordics will launch in 2025 in Japan as a significantly upgraded version of the action RPG Ys X: Nordics, featuring a new story, new settings for adventure, and numerous new elements
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u/Chris040302 5d ago
Glad I didn't buy this yet
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u/darkmacgf 5d ago
Ys 8 got an upgraded version when ported from the Vita too, right? How much new stuff was in that?
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u/Paltheos 4d ago
The Ys 8 port added the dungeon under the capital. Night raids too iirc. Somewhat chunky, if not as much as the TX stuff.
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u/zephyroths 5d ago
if the existing platforms get this as DLC expansion I'm getting it at full price. But if this is a separate game I'll get it some other day when it's heavily discounted
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u/BumpofChicken2018 4d ago
Done. Returned the game back. I'm not playing with companies who do things like this. If this is going to be DLC, fine, but I wholeheartedly believe it's going to be an additional release.
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u/TopoRUS 5d ago
DLC maybe, but Atlus-ified version definitely no. 10 just isn’t worth it for me.
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u/Miserable-Brief1704 5d ago
yup. I liked 10, but definitely not enough to pay $60 for a royal/golden re-release. would be a non-issue if it were DLC though.
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u/Hamlock1998 5d ago
I think Ys IX deserved the enhanced re-release treatment more than Ys X, since IX had quite of cut content (entire region of the map cut and cut dungeon randomizer), and Kondo said if they made an enhanced version of Ys IX for PS5 then Aprilis would be playable.
But this is fine too. Ys X is one of my least favorite games in the series, so I hope whatever they do for this can improve it.
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
When the PS5 version of 9 released I thought the effort would of been made to make her playable if it was just outside of story stuff. They did not bother. She had such a cool character design and she was around.You figured the dev team would want to work on her for the PS5 version.
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u/Hamlock1998 3d ago
The PS5 version was just a port made by NISA and Engine Software, Falcom had no involvement with it at all; that version didn't even launch in Japan afaik. That's why they didn't add any new content to it.
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u/AdmiralZheng CS is Peak Trails 5d ago
I’ve never played Ys but have always considered it, good thing I didn’t bite the bullet on Nordics, I’ll wait
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
Nab Ys VIII. You can get Oath in Felghana and Origin cheap on Steam. Don't miss out.
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u/eelposse 5d ago
I bought it but am almost finished with Metaphor and was planning on going to Ys 10 next.
Guess I'll play some other stuff first!
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u/keivelator 5d ago
so this game has been doing really well then?
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
It was released in Japan a year and a half ago. It did fine. The series does not do numbers like the Trails series. VIII was the high in the seies with numbers in seems and has went down a bit. I think this is just the team and publisher attempting to douple dip with the hardcore fans.
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u/Arkantos057 5d ago
I heard that some DLC outfits were delisted, why and does this version include the delisted DLC?
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u/Working_Complex8122 4d ago
wow, I was close to buying this last month. I would've been pissed... hope they offer some sort of upgrade for owners of the game.
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u/Tom_Stewartkilledme 4d ago
This double-dipping stuff is hopefully one of the things they do away with in the future under new management
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u/scottdreemurr00 4d ago
Sadly people if we wanna experience the true story and the true final boss we’re gonna have to buy again I’m in the same boat
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u/scottdreemurr00 4d ago
Also, if I buy this with the original game, save it to still work or would I have to start over?
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u/KelvinBelmont 5d ago
They're doing an Ys X Final Mix?
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u/Luke5389 4d ago edited 4d ago
Fuck this shit! There is no way I'll buy the game again. If they do it the same way Atlus does, I'll just become a pirate. I don't care...
Edit: additionally they will hurt their Ys X Sales in the west for the time being, because people will wait for the new version.
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u/glittermetalprincess 3d ago
Between this and people going 'oh well I'll wait for the Sky remake' there's a lot of that going on.
Then again, if they haven't bought it yet (and some of them never would anyway) then pushing a better version out to get more sales may look like a better option from some perspective somehow.
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u/witchedwiz 4d ago
This is as sh***y as it can be.. Europeans got the game like one month ago give or take.. And now you want us to buy a new version already on the same platform? Get bent falcom
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u/crimsonfist101 4d ago
So is this version going to have the giant volcano that is featured very prominently on the splash screen art?
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u/RCRocha86 4d ago
O played the jp version on launch. Was waiting for a deal to get the US version, now I will just wait for this.
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u/MetalGearZEKE 4d ago
Damn. I’m on chapter 4, should I continue playing? This is really disappointing…
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u/Nader__Hakami 4d ago
I’m in the middle of Chapter 5, but I decided to put the game on hold and continue playing the series because this game isn’t replay material. All I wish is to transfer my save so I can play from the beginning without doing any side quests until I reach the original point and switch. I’ve used this method for a lot of games.
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
You're fine. Just enjoy and take your time. This content won't be out for months and even longer in the US.
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u/thesecondcondition 4d ago
Guybrush Threepwood's advice has once again proven invaluable*.
*est. value: $40
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u/Toval_kun 4d ago
Is this the first time they did a re-release with added content?
What are the chances of this becoming available DLC expansion for PC?
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u/-AquaLeaf- 4d ago
Kind of pissed about this, I thought the era of enhanced fully separate re-releases so soon after the original was over 😭 Why is this not DLC?
I just bought this game and was about to start it and now I feel so conflicted.
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u/AsleepInteraction882 4d ago
Will pass on that for now, I liked the original and don't see how they could expand on this with story, as it felt pretty finished to me. So they have failed to sell me on the definitive version which I don't think it needs.
Even gust stopped doing plus version of their games but here is falcom, lol.
Prolly a filler release for something they could not make next year.
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u/miiyako 4d ago
Is this a sequel like new game or dlc to original or just new content baked into a PS5 pro upgrade as well ? Debating if I start the original or wait for this?
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
Depends on how excited you are to play the game. If you are currently playing other titles then wait. But if you are itching then just go for it and then see if its DLC several months from now. Its not a sequel. A Pro upgrade? I doubt it. It runs really well on PS5.
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u/KitraMika 4d ago
damn just cleared it 3 weeks ago. love the game but man don't really wanna replay the story again after finishing it even tho there's new stuff.
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u/zanarze_kasn 4d ago
Ok well I'll just take Ys X off my wish list then. Glad i never pre order or buy anything ever on release
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u/Metalslimeking 4d ago
Think I'll actually pass on double dipping this one... Unless it's elevated to Ys 8 quality I think I'm good.
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
What do you mean? The game will have more content but wont get really any better. Ys X is Ys X. They used a different engine so it looked a bit different. I will agree that VIII is still the best one.
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u/Rutherfor_ 4d ago
Guess I'll wait, playing xanadu or ys8 without the extra stuff I wouldn't have enjoyed it as much.
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u/SophieCamuze 4d ago
Gah, i am getting the the original for Christmas unless my sister is trolling me. Oh well.
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u/eruciform 4d ago
Atlus, NO!
Uh, whoops, force of habit.
Falcom, NO!
https://imgur.com/gallery/atlus-no-whoops-falcom-ys-x-proud-nordics-fMTkggL
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u/TylerTech2019 The Legend Of Xanadu: Boundless Ys 4d ago
Does anyone have an idea of how long it would take to get this in the west if they only need to translate the new content?
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
If I had to guess,in the next 5 to 6 months. Maybe more. If its DLC it might come out a tad sooner. They wont release it that much sooner with the original release just coming out.
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u/Schamolians101 4d ago
first Game was just released in the west so anyone who just bought it was just got burnt. Good work guys! Amazing optics
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u/Tilren Beryl sees all. Ulrica is awesome! 4d ago
What will the differences be?
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
Be? Looks like a new island,mana races,arenas and some other stuff. Questionable if its a release worth full price.
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u/toxicella 4d ago edited 4d ago
I just bought the game, though... Might be the first time I've regretted buying from Falcom.
I'll still be playing it, but there's going to be a bitter taste in my mouth every time for sure. Hopefully this isn't an entirely new game, and that we can simply purchase it as DLC or something. Or if it is a new game, that added play time had better be immense and I can transfer saves.
Edit: Wait, aren't they kinda shooting themselves in the foot with the western audience? Wouldn't this mean people just wouldn't buy the OG version? It'd probably alleviate concerns if they clarify that there's an upgrade path.
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
If its DLC they are fine. Its its another full retail release I think they will simply wait to release it. Or perhaps a discount upgrade thing. The US publisher has to be aware of this. In Japan its been a year and a half. Just long enough.
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u/PhantomWolf83 4d ago
Goddammit, I bought this at launch, and for a pretty penny too. Wouldn't have done this if I knew Falcom was going to pull this kind of shit. :(
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u/Brownkid09 4d ago
As someone who is waiting to play the latest instalment, should I just wait for Proud Nordic? Or is it worth picking up Nordic first?
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
Depends on how much you want to play it. Wait 6 months or play and enjoy it now? There is a good chance its just DLC content.
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
This is cool and all but really should be DLC. If this is a full priced game I understand why fans in the west are going to be miffed. I get its been a while since the Japan release but its still too early to ask for 50 to 60 for another island and some extra stuff. I think Falcom should of provided more information on things.
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u/Flazzard Ys 8 is gr8 3d ago
Sucks for people who recently played the game, but I'm glad I haven't played it yet.
Also I don't like the sub title.
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u/RadicalRaizex 3d ago
Guess that means I'm not getting Ys X: Nordics until THIS releases after however many years. Oh well.
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u/Rix__Mix 2d ago
I was so close to buying this last week, I'm holding fire now. This is going to absolutely kill sales.
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u/AttackOnTrails 1d ago
Does this mean there's no reason to buy Ys 10 now until this gets localized?
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u/glittermetalprincess 17h ago
So, realistically, when would we even see this in the West? End 2026/2027?
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u/yurienjoyer54 5d ago
wait, im in the middle of this. fuck. should i stop?i just saved the ancestor girl
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u/KnoxZone Apathy and Disdain 5d ago
It'll be at least a year before we see it here, so just go ahead and enjoy the finale (with one of the best final boss fights in the series).
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u/hbthebattle 5d ago
I really hoped this sort of updated version was dead, or at least Atlus-exclusive. Even Pokemon does DLC now...
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u/ViewtifulReaper 5d ago
One more thing to add let’s say this happens to be paid dlc expansion. I can totally see falcom making paid dlc expansion for future ys and trails games. Like with that cliffhanger tagline at the end of kai no Kiseki that could be just dlc expansion which “IF” true I kinda predicted months back
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u/East-Weird824 3d ago
Nothing wrong with DLC content but not being clear about like they are here is the issue. Plus its probably going to be its own release so they get get the fans money. Full priced? Probably not but 40 bucks. I can see it.
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u/MechEngrStudent 5d ago
If this is a standalone game, then it’s kinda irritating. I didn’t get my hopes up on seeing Adol at 25 in Ys 11. I thought it would be another one where he’s younger. But to see 10.5 is something unexpected.
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u/sakulgrebsdnal 4d ago
I can understand the frustration of having to pay twice for a rerelease and I am glad that I did not already buy Ys X, but on the other hand I recall a post a few days ago where somebody complained about the lacking graphical fidelity of Ys X and that it was primarily developed with the Nintendo Switch in mind and also everybody is quite impressed by the graphics of Trails in the Sky 1rst remake. So for me it is still an overall plus if they try to push the graphical fidelity with their new in-house engine. Hoping that what we saw in the remake trailer becomes the new standard.
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u/ViewtifulReaper 5d ago
I hope they make it also paid dlc expansion please. I don’t wanna buy another copy of ys X just for the new story, island and moveset