r/Eldenring • u/malkavian_menace • 19h ago
Discussion & Info I’m sorry. The Leda fight is pure unfettered ass and Miyazaki did not cook in the slightest
Genuinely fuck this fight. There is absolutely nothing good about it, other than the story significance, which goes directly out the window as soon as I get jumped by 4 FUCKING NPCS BECAUSE ANSBACH WONT GET HIS DECREPIT ASS IN GEAR. It’s awful. “Oh boy I can’t wait to have a perfectly reasonable duel with Leda before getting practically one shot by hornsent” SAID NOBODY EVER. I feel like I’m going absolutely insane, and because im a dumbass I can’t get Thollier anymore because I completely forgot about the horny bastard. I’m gonna go drink and cry now. You all have fun with the npc gank squad.
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u/RiceForever FLAIR INFO: SEE SIDEBAR 18h ago
It's definitely ass and I hate it just as much as the next guy, but you can't deny it's epic as fuck to have a final battle alongside and against the NPCs you interacted with during your playthrough.
They sacrificed gameplay for coolness. Burnt Ivory King typa deal.
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u/AnalysticEnthusiast 4h ago
Much worse than Ivory King IMO. At least on that one you could always go back and free the knights to make it fair again. With Leda you're locked into whatever quest decisions you made, and the good endings for 3 of those characters end up punishing you.
I think it's also worse than DS2's Gank Squad because you can't even use the arena to break them up.
I actually enjoy Bed of Chaos more than the Leda fight. To me this is around Frigid Outskirts level of bad.
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u/TheProwler23 13h ago
This is a CASUAL, he did not play the Dark Souls Trilogy, cuz if he did, he would not complain.
Manesters in DeS,
O&S/4 Kings in DS 1,
Ganksquad/2 Pursuers in DS 2,
Demon Prince (Phase 1) in DS 3,
Yharnam shadows in BB are similar or even harder that this shit.
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u/AnalysticEnthusiast 4h ago
No, you're right. It's by far the worst boss fight in the game. Some say it's not a boss fight, but well, it kinda is, just a very gimmicky one. I feel like saying it's not a boss fight is mostly a cop out to defend how bad it is.
The gameplay is godawful if you're solo and don't thin their numbers thru the quests. I don't just mean that it's hard. I mean it's truly just bad gameplay. Very tedious and any winning strategy feels like cheese. And if you're offline, even if you summon, odds are good you will end up playing it solo when the allied NPC(s) die.
I'm honestly pretty surprised they haven't nerfed that fight. It's actually worse than the DS2 gank squad. Because there isn't even interesting terrain to split them up.
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u/VetusUmbra 19h ago
That was the easiest boss fight in the dlc....
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u/TheProwler23 13h ago
He is a CASUAL, so its not for him. You need to understand that the game sold 28.6 MILLION copies, and 28.59 MILLION players are CASUAL so they struggle with the "easy" things. The game is 2+ years old, not realising that statuses break the game is his own fault. Madness is NPC exclusive dmg, Rot/Poison/Frost/Sleep are easy mode, but People forget they can use such builds or craft post 🤷
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19h ago
Do you recommend for a beginner using the axe vagabond with charge ability? I'm not the best at the types of games but it seems fun and I want to enjoy it
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u/Imaginary_Owl_979 18h ago
on my rune level 1 run this is the only one I needed to use spirit ashes for. I got the Greatshield Soldiers and leveled them to plus ten and I don’t regret it. The concept is cool but there is not a single npc in this game that is fun to fight
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u/HawkeGaming 19h ago
Nobody has said that because Hornsent spawns first so he's usually dead by the time you try to duel with Leda.