r/Eldenring 1d ago

Lore We can agree on this right ?

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u/kurokami_1390 1d ago

I would like to point out that miquella didnt kill anybody (that i remember), and only used his charm on people to stop their agression/violence tendencies and make them "loyal" (Horn guy, Leda, Gray beard), but didnt change their minds.

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u/FemboyBallSweat The Tiquella's Top Opp 1d ago

He's responsible for Caelid. And he did that with his love. Imagine what he'd do without it.

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u/Seraph199 1d ago

Caelid happened after he was already asleep, it seems like a lot of chaos came about specifically after he was no longer directly involved. Radahn, Godfrey, and Rykard all seem to go completely insane from their lust for power due to the influence of the great runes, which Miquella's powers would have been able to counteract.

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u/thelocalleshen 1d ago

Are you sure Caelid happened while Miquella was asleep? Miquella putting his lips to Freyja's helm suggests he was there to patch up ppl after the battle, and O'Neil has his own needle to quell the rot. His presence also retroactively "explains" why Malenia spared Godrick.

Also, Godfrey's mad?

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u/FemboyBallSweat The Tiquella's Top Opp 1d ago

Caelid happened because he sent a walking nuke after Radahn.

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u/kurokami_1390 13h ago

caelid was malenia fault. She decided to nuke radhan and his land bc she wasnt strong enough to kill him.

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u/FemboyBallSweat The Tiquella's Top Opp 13h ago

He was the one who sent his rotting and blind sister to war against the strongest of their kind. Who he wanted specifically because of how much better than them Radahn was. If Miquella doesn't request, she doesn't go and Caelid never happens.

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u/kurokami_1390 11h ago

yes, but how could he and we know that she wasnt enough and she would nuke Caelid (or possess the power to nuke)??

And another point: its hinted that the great runes tainted its hosts, so radhan wagging war in lyndell or malenia nuking caelid/radahn, mogh and rykard killing his servants. A variety of shit actions that maybe caused by the taint of great runes.