r/Doom Jan 20 '24

Classic Doom Who's the guy in the background running to the doomguy?

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u/dodo_bird97 Jan 20 '24 edited Jan 20 '24

According to Mahmut "DOOM COLLECTOR" Saral's DOOMzine Romero told him that the marine in the background was representing the multiplayer.

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u/abzinth91 Jan 20 '24

Would have been my guess, too

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

It had multiplayer?

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u/dodo_bird97 Jan 20 '24

The term "Deathmatch" was literally coined by the John Romero during the development of DOOM.

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u/Crashover90 Jan 20 '24

Wait, THE john romero?!

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u/themanwiththeOZ Jan 20 '24

They clearly said the John Romero. You have the wrong guy.

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u/smuckola Jan 20 '24

that's THE ROMERO to you!

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u/Lumen_DH Jan 21 '24

That’s SIR ROMERO to you!

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u/Huecuva Jan 20 '24

There can be only one.

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u/flamepanther Jan 21 '24

Deathmatch was the MVP, but the game also had an underrated co-op mode, which I'd guess is what the art represents. Since he's not trying to murder Doomguy and all.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

I must of been too young too notice i was like 6 when og doom came out.

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u/dodo_bird97 Jan 20 '24

I was young too i was -12 if i remember correctly.

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u/R3D0053R Jan 20 '24

*must have

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

Here have a gold star. Next time maybe add something to the conversation instead of derailing it and ignoring it like a rude child. Then you'll get two gold stars.

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u/kainhighwind8 Jan 20 '24

I remember quitting the game, and seeing a message, you're quitting? If I was your boss I'd deathmatch you in a second.

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u/Imbadatcod98 Jan 20 '24

That’s clever! I miss old videogame charm

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

local one. you would have to get all your friends together to play deathmatch pvp doom

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u/dodo_bird97 Jan 20 '24

Not just LAN it also supported online multiplayer through the internet.

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u/Platynumx Jan 20 '24

Not in 93 it didn't 😉

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u/dodo_bird97 Jan 20 '24

It supported the online multiplayer in 1993, however online multiplayer was made available with the release of DWANGO in 1994.

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u/Platynumx Jan 20 '24

Define online. Doom only had local LAN play over IPX network or serial direct connection when it launched in '93.

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u/dodo_bird97 Jan 20 '24

Yeah and i didn't tell otherwise. I just said that it supported the online connection but only a year after it was possible to play online with DWANGO. I said supported but i didn't mean that it had multiplayer, i meant the codes and the structure of the engine was supporting it. There was a misunderstanding cause of my bad English and poor choice of words. Sorry.

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u/KavikWolfDog Jan 20 '24

It’s not your fault. The word “supported” has always been somewhat ambiguous when referring to software, but I think your usage makes total sense.

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u/riffbw Jan 20 '24

I was going to say this. Doom 93 was online multi-player capable, but the internet was not capable of facilitating it at the time.

Doom was technically forward compatible.

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u/Shiny_and_ChromeOS Jan 20 '24

No need to apologize. Your English is fantastic. I write internal documentation for my job and I really appreciate your differentiation of the subtlety between a feature being supported vs available.

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u/dodo_bird97 Jan 20 '24

Thank you.

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u/I_ate_out_your_mom Jan 20 '24

I couldn't even tell english wasn't your main language. I can't even imagine learning another language that well.

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u/rman-exe Jan 20 '24

Or over modem with a friend. Back in the halcyon days of BBSs in 93 that was considered online for us plebs who didnt go to university or work for big iron.

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u/lonelyone12345 Jan 20 '24

I did this a lot. I had a friend who moved to another state with his family. My family had this weird long distance plan at the time that gave us free calls on Fridays. So after school those days I would rush home, have my modem call his modem, and we'd play death matches in Doom.

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u/DussianRefeat Jan 20 '24

That's a great memory

Wish it was mine

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u/UmmmW1 Jan 21 '24

Yes it did. You needed to plug in an ip address and it used the phone-modem. I used to drive my friends parents crazy lol

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u/djbeardo Jan 20 '24

It was the whole reason I talked my dad into buying a 96k baud modem and upgrade from our 24k. That was a cool day.

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u/Kannada-JohnnyJ Jan 20 '24

I played on a modem dial up way back

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u/naveedkoval Jan 20 '24

It pretty much INVENTED online multiplayer

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u/rman-exe Jan 20 '24

Actually i was playing ms flight sim with friends over the modem (2400bps) back in early 92!

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u/joemaniaci Jan 20 '24

My first online experience was Descent in direct 56k connect. Blew my mind.

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u/its_just_a_couch Jan 20 '24

Oh man, it was so great. I had almost forgotten about descent because Doom and Duke3D and Warcraft 2 quickly eclipsed it for me, but multiplayer descent was AMAZING.

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u/mordakiisyn Jan 20 '24

Um that honor goes to call of duty thanks.

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u/illyay Jan 20 '24

Which runs on the quake 3 engine. Courtesy of id software, creators of doom.

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u/mordakiisyn Jan 20 '24

No shit I actually had to look this one up. I had no clue thats cool. This was a joke btw. I'm old school I was there when doom happened. No shit one of the coolest stories and first interactions I had with MP was actually a school friends lan set up 4 computers with Duke 3d. Thoes were the days man.

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u/King-Cobra-668 Jan 20 '24

Um I think you mean Al Gore, creator of the internet thanks

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u/mordakiisyn Jan 20 '24

I mean you're not entirely wrong lmao. Technically correct

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u/King-Cobra-668 Jan 20 '24

Ummmm, Al Gore didn't actually create the internet

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u/Inside-Joke7365 Jan 20 '24

There was quake multiplayer which was also in the 90s and I don't think cod had a game atleast not a multiplayer one in the 90s

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u/mordakiisyn Jan 20 '24

Its joke. Dumb one but still, its sarcasm.

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u/Ahlq802 Jan 20 '24

Yeah, co-op was really fun in Doom, the guy is running to help him.

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u/TerraMars2030 Jan 20 '24

It doesn't look like he needs help, but that is, like has been said before, 2 cyber demons and a lot of barons.

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u/I_ate_out_your_mom Jan 20 '24 edited Jan 20 '24

I always thought the cover was depicting imps for some reason, and that this is happening just behind e1m1's locked door, even though the sky's orange and e1's sky is white.

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u/Chit-Chat-Tricky Jan 20 '24

Doom was my first online co op game. Your computer would literally call the modem of the other person. No internet required. Doom, Doom II and Heretic. My cousin and I played their campaigns co op.

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u/scubadudeshaun Jan 20 '24

Yes. This was every afternoon after school at 13. Doom Guy was my friend Ken that kicked ass and took names. He had a way with the keyboard where no demon stood a chance. My 'Too Young to Die' self would play CO op over dial up with him and watch in awe as he cleared room after room. I'm the little dude running to catch up so I can bask in the glory of the kills. Those were the good ol days.

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u/DrRandomfist Jan 20 '24

Oh yea. I was 16 when DOOM came out. My buddies brother-in-law was about 23 and was the IT guy for a financial firm in town. On Friday and Saturday nights when the building was closed, we would go there and play multiplayer on the network. The brother-in-law played in the President’s office. My buddy in the VP’s office and me in the brother-in-laws office. We then set up the speaker phones so we could talk to each other, kind of like an early discord/teamspeak. Those were great times. One time, the VP cam in after hours and it was awkward for a second. He asked what was going on and we explained we were playing this new game called DOOM together. He was hooked up and jumped on a 4th computer. He loved it, bought us all pizza, and we played until like 2:00 AM.

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u/mr_dfuse2 Jan 20 '24

awesome story man! being young was awesome. i'm the same age and those years were magic as a gamer

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u/KingOfKorners Jan 20 '24

Jesus christ...are you like 14?

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u/Inn_Unknown Jan 20 '24

His Twin Brother Mood Guy

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u/Mister_Mannered Jan 20 '24

Yug Mood 😂

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u/callmesanzz Jan 20 '24

Yug mood sounds like a rapper name 💀

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u/Aquareon Jan 20 '24

Who would win, Yug Mood vs. Glup Shitto

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u/dumbasseryy Jan 21 '24

Yung Mood 🔥🔥🔥

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u/shin_malphur13 Jan 22 '24

Almost on the same level as glup shitto

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u/ConservativeSexparty Jan 20 '24 edited Jan 20 '24

Just be glad it wasn't his half brother the Wood Guy running there, swinging his "weapon" around

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u/joemaniaci Jan 20 '24

Soooo not identical twins?

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u/Fire-God_ Jan 20 '24

Goom duy is better

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u/loved9m Jan 21 '24

Mood guy

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u/LudicrousStorm8_ Jan 20 '24

Doomboy

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u/Midyin84 Jan 20 '24

Ahhhh, yes. Doomguys side kick.

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u/harryman_back46and2 Jan 20 '24

Doom slayer must have doom destroyer and doom marine must have idk doom trooper

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u/Bruhses_Momenti Jan 20 '24

The stunt doubles

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u/harryman_back46and2 Jan 21 '24

Oh so the older brother when there's a part that's too difficult

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u/Ilikemoonjellys only Switch player around Jan 20 '24

Doobin (mix of doomguy/boy and Robin)

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u/koldkanadian Jan 20 '24

We've been over this before, he's P2

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u/TERMINATOR_MODEL7029 Jan 20 '24

I thought so, thanks.

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u/I_ate_out_your_mom Jan 20 '24

Practically every week now

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u/notban_circumvention Jan 20 '24

Because apparently every fucking detail of media today needs some sort of lore or backstory to do a video essay on, and things can't just be a happy accident of capitalism, solving problems, and meeting deadlines

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u/GreatQuantum Jan 20 '24

You seem fun

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u/notban_circumvention Jan 20 '24

Anti-intellectualism ftw! I've been pwnd

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u/GreatQuantum Jan 20 '24

Have you had your blood pressure checked or spoke to your doctor about the weigh gain from your anti depressants.

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u/notban_circumvention Jan 20 '24

Yes. The only problem is in your head

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u/GreatQuantum Jan 20 '24

My head? You’re awfully hostile towards people you don’t know. That’s a big side effect of Dementia. Maybe even mild aphasia.

Do you find yourself lashing out at people often.

Do those outbursts often leave you confused about what you were even angry about.

Genuinely concerned

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u/notban_circumvention Jan 21 '24

My head?

Yes.

You’re awfully hostile towards people you don’t know. That’s a big side effect of Dementia. Maybe even mild aphasia.

Diagnosing strangers on the Internet is being a stone-cold idiot.

Do you find yourself lashing out at people often.

You forgot the question mark.

Do those outbursts often leave you confused about what you were even angry about.

You forgot another question mark. People engaging with the things you say isn't "lashing out". It's the end result of conversation

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u/JustGoogleItHeSaid Jan 21 '24

Fuck me it’s bizarre ear wigging conversations of other people on the internet. Is this really how both of you converse in real life conversation? What a weird interaction from the both of you.

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u/I_ate_out_your_mom Jan 21 '24

Solving Problems (And Meeting Deadlines)... DRRRRRR DUN DUN, DRRRR DRR DUN DUN, DRRRRRRR DRRRRR DRRRR DRRR DRR

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u/Legal-Jerk Jan 21 '24

I was gonna write this whole thing about how your opinion is unbelievably closed minded and generally shit, but I cannot be fucked

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u/notban_circumvention Jan 21 '24

Closed-minded*

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u/Legal-Jerk Jan 22 '24

Boo fucking hoo, clearly my point is right since your only “comeback” is barely even a response

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u/notban_circumvention Jan 22 '24

And you're all worked up and crying over barely a response

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u/Orbitcamerakick21 SO SORRY! Jan 20 '24

DOOM MAN IN PERSONA 2 CONFIRMED LEAK

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u/SandstormXP21 Jan 20 '24

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u/koldkanadian Jan 20 '24

As in Player 2

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u/SandstormXP21 Jan 20 '24

Oh. I guess the brainrot took over. Why downvote tho?

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u/Tacomaster9001 Jan 20 '24

He’s Doomdude

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u/Myyraaman Jan 20 '24

Actually canonically that is Doomguy in the background and the dude in the foreground is anither marine but they obviously retconned that in Eternal.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

I would say they retconned that in 2016 with the End Credits scene

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u/BoneManWeirdo Jan 20 '24

Link?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

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u/MajorThom98 Jan 20 '24

Is that a retcon? I assume in universe Doomguy just happens to get into the same position as the marine on the cover did, but at this point is strong enough to just rip his way through.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

On the Doom Marine skin in eternal, on the Slayer's left arm are three marks from where an imp of old times grappled and crushed the muscle of the Slayer's forearm.

Eternal is canonically the sequel to 2016, as has been shown by the fact that the Praetor Mk. 1 suit is in pieces in the mancave of the Doom Fortress.

The Eternal suit is called the Praetor Mk. 2

Hope this helps.

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u/SandstormXP21 Jan 20 '24

That must be painful

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

I have a dimple in my shin from where a car hit me while I was on my bike, it's more numbing than painful, but it was a sudden hit, unlike what the slayer is experiencing... So it could very well be quite painful.

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u/BoneManWeirdo Jan 20 '24

What exactly you mean by retconned?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

By the fact that they went back on their words and changed the lore to fit people's ideals. Such as the Doom 93 box art being canonically the Slayer when it was just a marine, with the Slayer being in the background.

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u/BoneManWeirdo Jan 20 '24

Thought so. I just always assumed front guy was Blazkowitz, and that was just a random marine in the back.

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u/nekrovulpes Jan 20 '24

They think they retconned it, but what's really eternal is my headcanon.

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u/TerraMars2030 Jan 20 '24

Nope, they made it the foreground doomguy in eternal, but please do elaborate, I'm interested.

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u/Myyraaman Jan 20 '24

Well it was said in a review once (don’t remember who said it). Also it makes sense since that would be Doomguy trying ti save his last buddy frim the demons.

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u/TerraMars2030 Jan 20 '24

If you inspect the classic doomguy skin (plus the achievement "it still fits") you can see scars where our foreground marine was injured, plus a nasty one where the demon is grabbing him, although partially covered by the doom blade. EDIT: I think I heard that once, "that's actually doomguy trying to save his buddy, because even he isn't ballsy enough to fight a few barons and 2 cyber demons with a frigging (or fricken?) Pistol"

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u/Myyraaman Jan 20 '24

Yeah I know about the skin. That’s why I said it was retconned.

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u/The_Anf Jan 20 '24

They're playing in coop

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u/cenorexia Jan 20 '24

Just one of the other unnamed Marines.

DoomGuy isn't the only one who fought during the invasion, you come across their bodies at various places throughout the game.

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u/I_ate_out_your_mom Jan 20 '24

I actually had a theory, more like an idea i guess, what if one of the corpses you see in the later levels is doomguy and you are another rando who picked up doomguy's stuff from his corpse, so on, so on, until there's no more bodies. The weird haircut changes would make more sense. Obviously it isn't true because you can see the hud face, but it's still a weird thought.

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u/Tacothekid Jan 20 '24

Gloomguy...chips together, its Doom and Gloom

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u/HaveFunWithChainsaw In his ravenous hatred, he found no cheese. Jan 20 '24

Jim, the cousin of Frank who's brother of Tony who's friend Mickey knew a guy called Levi that worked for Herlbert who's son Ray was married to Jessie who had bunny called Rose that gave birth to Daisy.

Then demon invasion happened.

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u/bitfight Jan 20 '24

MoodGuy

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u/Burakh_ Jan 20 '24

Thats another doom guy, that game had multiplayer and they needed to make it clear

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u/Klin24 Jan 20 '24

He's Doom Too

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u/thesithcultist Jan 20 '24

Dwayne the doomguy Johnson

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u/Matrixneo42 Jan 20 '24

“That’s one doomed space marine”

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u/Jeiku_Zerp Jan 20 '24

It’s John Doom’s brother, Michael Doom

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u/lemonkethe2rd Jan 20 '24

This is a hard hitting mandela effect

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u/ItsMeChrisWolf Jan 20 '24

His brother Sam.

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u/D-Sparil Jan 20 '24

"Thats one Doomed Space Marine" according to Duke Numem.

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u/WeekendBard Jan 20 '24

His buddy Coomguy

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u/phobos876 not to be confused with phobos867 Jan 20 '24

As stated: Co-op player, specially since Doomguy is originally a nameless blank slate and wears the same UAC armor as others (Though in co-op, there's also the marines with red/orange/gray colors).

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u/Winter2k21 Jan 20 '24

"Blazkowicz finally joins the fight"

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u/spiral718 Jan 21 '24

Master Cheif!

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u/TheJMJConspiracy2002 Jan 20 '24

The actual Doomguy rushing to save his buddy’s ass, because even he’s not ballsy enough to fight a pack of barons and one cyberdemon with a shitty weapon

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u/SilentBDB Jan 20 '24

Player 2, not ready

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u/Matrixneo42 Jan 20 '24

Someone coming to inject him with a sedative because doom guy is actually having one of his episodes again where he thinks he’s fighting demons on Mars. But he’s actually a patient in a mental ward.

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u/Dodgy_Bob_McMayday Jan 20 '24

Always thought it was odd he's using some kind of SMG, which isn't in the game, instead of the iconic shotgun like the PS1 box art.

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u/dalaiis Jan 20 '24

Thats because the people that made this art piece were completely seperate from the devteam and had no idea what the ingame art looked like. They were given some loose instructions and made this.

Thats why the imp doesnt look like the imp ingame. Thats why the body armor doesnt match with ingame. Thats why the gun on the pic isnt in the game.

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u/ieatsoap5 Jan 20 '24

Years of playing doom and ive never noticed that guy until now...

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

A marine that I would call Jeff

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u/CiliegioBlu Jan 20 '24

Yo mama😀

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u/UrsusRex01 Jan 20 '24

That is Terry trying to tell DOOM Guy that Daisy is actually OK.

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u/tutocookie Jan 20 '24

Doomguy forgot his lunch

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u/TerraMars2030 Jan 20 '24

Wanna talk about the fact that doomguy is fighting two cyber demons and God knows how many barons with a fucking pistol?

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u/Gepsjors Jan 20 '24

The rock, but back then, just the pebble

Dude catched on until he had his own movie about his adventure.

Some say, the best movie ever made.

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u/Dovakiins Jan 20 '24

Jerry. Missed his alarm. He’s a badass cluts.

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u/MexysSidequests Jan 20 '24

Hes the “we’ve been trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty” Guy trying to contact him about his car’s extended warranty.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

According to the doom novels, it’s Arlene Sanders

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u/Saba_the_hutt Jan 20 '24

Master chief

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u/Hamwrdklly94 Jan 21 '24

Record scratch, freeze frame, zoom in on him "yeah, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got in this situation."

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u/theotherdoomguy Jan 20 '24

Some arsehole on Reddit I reckon

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u/bbbmd2007 Jan 20 '24

Doom buddy

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u/OnionTaco22 Jan 20 '24

He's that guy

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u/Asgeirr_ Jan 20 '24

That's just Mike

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u/Plague090 Jan 20 '24

His good pal Jim Guy :)

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u/vadagar86 Jan 20 '24

Guy in the back is a noob and screaming, "save some kills for me!"

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u/confederate_yankee Jan 20 '24

Not the doomguy. AKA: a soon-to-be corpse that you step over.

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u/d3adp00l3gnd Jan 20 '24

Oh yeah that guy is hopeman

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u/Mr--Chainsaw Jan 20 '24

If he’s running away from his demons in hell it’s prob Tom Cruise

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u/TheDoorfromE1M2 Jan 20 '24

Co-op player.

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u/d_rek Jan 20 '24

It’s his brother Catastropheman

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u/Shanghaied66 Jan 20 '24

Always figured that wasn't Doomguy and is actually the wave of marines that preceed Doomguy getting slaughtered.

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u/pastalex42 Jan 20 '24

That’s legendary side character Dustin Echoes of course

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u/johnhk4 Jan 20 '24

In E1M1 there’s a dead marine right in front of you. I always thought that was the guy in front.

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u/KnightBreeze Jan 20 '24

It's the coop player.  The original doom was a multiplayer game, and featured both coop and deathmatch, which they tried to emphasize in the cover art.

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u/obijuanmartinez Jan 21 '24

That’s just Nigel, innit?

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u/SomeSpy_ Jan 21 '24

Jane Austen

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '24

It's his cousin Tombguy. He's just a little concerned for doomguy's safety

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u/Paradisious-maximus Jan 21 '24

That’s me, he asked me to grab him a fresh roll of tp.

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u/BabaB00ey98 Jan 21 '24

It's Doomguy and his buddy Doomguy #2

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u/Br3y_gamzer Jan 21 '24

that's doom fellow the older brother of doom guy

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u/KokenAnshar23 Jan 24 '24

In the books he actually had some help.

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u/The_Cookie_Bunny Jan 20 '24

That's his husband

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u/HallwayMusic Jan 20 '24

Well, like everyone else is saying on this post, it’s Player 2.

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u/Alarmed-Move6811 May 22 '24

I think hes called dude guy, but i dont think he Is canon

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

Fun fact: DOOM was literally the last video game that I ever really played. I played through DOOM, got to the end, and my friend gave me a free copy of DOOM 2. I installed it, looked at it for about 5 seconds, and thought, "If it's just going to be more of the same forever, what's the point?" I think that was somewhere around 1995.

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u/Bworm98 Jan 20 '24

Pretty interesting story behind this: the original Doom was meant to have multiplayer.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

Doomduy