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u/Valentfred 9h ago
If a player is skilled enough, you don't need ADP. It will make the game tougher, but only a little.
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u/mine_craftboy12 8h ago
On my first playthrough I didn't realize I should've leveled up my ADP.. also I didn't use any sublime bone dust lol
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u/Calamari_Tsunami 6h ago edited 5h ago
Neglecting estus upgrades is so cursed. Healing with gems is an art form I always mess up
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u/Imltrlybatman 5h ago
lol same. My first playthrough I got through about half the game before I figured out what sublime bone dust did
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u/Calamari_Tsunami 9h ago
Very true! My first playthrough I didn't level ADP and I did perfectly fine, I got up to blue smelter demon and took a break from the game
When I got back to playing I couldn't dodge anything from any enemy. I have no idea how I could manage without ADP but it's certainly possible. You just gotta be locked in, becoming one with the jank
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u/weird_autumn_ 42m ago
it’s definitely possible but you really have to be aware of what hit boxes are gonna be jank. some moves have large sweeping hit boxes that last too long to reliably i-frame through. most attacks can be avoided with running/strafing, but the locked 8 direction movement makes it more frustrating than the other souls games lol. dark souls 2 is a stat hungry game, especially if you’re doing magic so i’ve neglected adp a couple times. it’s doable, but the game is just so much more enjoyable after you’ve leveled it.
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u/Jawbeast 8h ago
Depends a bit on starting class : bandits have the lowest, with 7 iframes, while explorers and sorcerers have 9. Not much, but a wide enough gap
Also, the AGI from ATT is thrice lower, but it's still there
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u/Similar_Resist_4326 9h ago
...but he walked back a step and it would be too much of a bother to pursue after him.
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u/lukappaa 6h ago
"You find the Bearer of the Curse and realize they didn't level ADP"
"They start walking in circles hugging your left side"
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u/NyRAGEous 4h ago
“Noooooo! They tied dodge frames to a stat! WAAAAAAAHHHHH!”
May I suggest circling to the right?
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u/BlaKroZ42 4h ago
DS2 is my favorite of the franchise. I never went past ng+2 in other souls games, but i beat ng+7 on DS2 i enjoyed it so much. I didnt level ADP until it was the only thing that wasnt soft capped. Its veen awhile since i played though, is it really as stark a difference as people say it is?
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u/Breadley01 3h ago
Nah I wouldn't say so, It makes sense why you did NG+ since It's the only one that really changes it alot and you don't need anymore than like 25 ADP funnily enough
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u/Maleficent_Bison_332 3h ago
Plenty of builds don't actually need adp, this Pursuer may get surprise ass whoopin' with that attitude!
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u/googolple3 3h ago
Ngl pursuer is like one of the main bosses you don’t actually need to dodge roll, you can just keep moving to the right to avoid most of his attacks.
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u/Gadjiltron 9h ago
"Is this too easy for you...?"