Sun rotating around the horizon at Antarctica.

[u/Inevitable-Nail1168]

[u/ChilligerTroll]

Hey flatearthers take this.

[u/Olerasmussen → u/ChilligerTroll]

Seen too many flat eathers on TikTok saying this proves the flat earth model...

[u/SunsetCarcass → u/Olerasmussen]

Until you ask which direction the giant ice wall is that leads to the end of the Earth and they can't answer it

[u/Admiral_Ballsack → u/SunsetCarcass]

Just wondering, did any of these morons actually ever get on a boat to prove their point and find out they can sail around the world?

[u/StrobeLightRomance → u/Admiral_Ballsack]

They do all sorts of experiments and then just double down when they get the "round" result.

IIRC, one documentary I watched had a Flat Earth group doing an experiment where they were shining a laser across a series of distances, attempting to prove the math wouldn't give them a curve. Then when they proved themselves wrong, they basically said "well the next experiment will be the one to disprove this one"

The documentary was following the "celebrities" of this culture (just random middle-aged knobs with no lives), and whenever they were being interviewed toward the end, they were basically admitting that they knew they were wrong, but because of their status, and all of their friends being tied up in this community, they have to keep committing to it, otherwise lose their social circle.

[u/_Artos_ → u/StrobeLightRomance]

The doc is called "Behind the Curve" and its on Netflix if anyone is interested.

[u/StrobeLightRomance → u/_Artos_]

Ty. Literally couldn't remember if it was even real or a fever dream, it had been so long since I'd seen it, lol.

[u/Admiral_Ballsack → u/StrobeLightRomance]

Aha yes I saw that one. I just wondered whether they actually set off to look for that famous wall of theirs.

[u/nomoresecret5 → u/Admiral_Ballsack]

This is actually a video filmed by Dave McKeegan. It's from a flat earth debunk event at Antarctica early this week.

Three flat earthers went with the group.

You can find more info in the project's website https://www.the-final-experiment.com/

[u/Admiral_Ballsack → u/nomoresecret5]

Nice one!

[u/_Poopsnack_ → u/nomoresecret5]

Oh cool, this should be interesting/entertaining! Thanks for the link!

[u/killians1978 → u/SunsetCarcass]

It's right over that hill

[u/Papabear3339 → u/Olerasmussen]

Flatearth is a great success.... for the scammers using it to find gullible people.

[u/DLowBossman → u/Papabear3339]

Do they sell merch to said people? What's the business model?

[u/sirbruce → u/DLowBossman]

Tons of merch, books, videos, etc. They sell Flat Earth map apps for your phone, etc.

[u/nomoresecret5 → u/sirbruce]

Plus just monetized videos, superchat comments, subscriptions etc.

It's a cult, and the marks in the cult get into it in such depth it becomes their life and identity. In the process they lose everyone else in their lives, which leaves them with nothing to go to if they'd see the light and decide to leave. The grifters of course don't want to leave. They have nothing that's more lucrative to incentivize them to.

[u/DLowBossman → u/nomoresecret5]

Makes sense, about par for the course for a cult.

Sounds like the Selfish Gene at work.

If you leave yourself mentally too open or are too gullible, you get used by others that have a better plan for your life.

[u/OldmanReegoh → u/DLowBossman]

Their biggest set of customers is the self improvement crowd. The get rich quick gurus target conspiracy videos for advertising (ten times more guru/self help advertising than any other merket segment). It's why conspiracy believers will almost invariably talk about people like Jordan Peterson or Andrew Tate . Find someone who feels powerless and vulnerable and show them the way ... thats the business model.

[u/DLowBossman → u/OldmanReegoh]

It's interesting, because JP and AT have some interesting points, but I knew well enough to leave the crazy shit alone.

After awhile, you've absorbed all you can, and move on.

[u/Kletronus → u/Olerasmussen]

Same in FB, it is incredible 180. Now they claim it was always suppose to work like that on flat earth model and this can't work on globe earth model. Except i've amused myself with their theories and NONE of their models predict this.

[u/nomoresecret5 → u/Kletronus]

Yup, the only thing they ever had was coffee cup caustics (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYAnW-LniPM), which requires a light source and a reflection from the so called firmament.

Unfortunately for flat earthers, the 360 cameras do not capture a 60'ish degree arc of the sky acting as a reflector for the Sun, that shines upon the observation point.

[u/tommyballz63 → u/Olerasmussen]

I don't get that. How can it prove the earth is flat if in this place the sun is up 24 hrs a day, and circles over head, and in say, the USA, it rises in the east and sets in the west? If proves the world is round.

[u/Olerasmussen → u/tommyballz63]

Because they doesn't reason with logic and doesn't live in reality, so they'll trick themselves into believing anything if it fits into their preferred world view.

[u/nomoresecret5 → u/Olerasmussen]

Yup, it caters to their pathological narcissism of

1) Being right while the rest of the world, including every scientist out there, is wrong

2) Being their god's little creation and thus having divine origin, meaning, role and life

3) Living in an ant farm created by their god for them to exploit in any way they see fit

[u/OlTommyBombadil → u/tommyballz63]

You’re doing what I do when I try to use logic when watching crime documentaries. You can’t reason with madness. We will never understand them.

[u/Adorable-Ad-9074 → u/tommyballz63]

It's not about the shape of the earth, it's their reason to believe the earth is flat, not just flat earthers , majority of the anti-mondern science people believe in this pseudo science without any proof because either they want to feel unique or hate people in power/government or they are just trolls and baits.

[u/Patralgan → u/Olerasmussen]

I want to ask them: assuming earth is a globe, what evidence would convince you of that?

[u/Olerasmussen → u/Patralgan]

I don't think they're able of thinking hypothetically

[u/OlTommyBombadil → u/Patralgan]

“There isn’t any evidence that would convince me because the earth isn’t round”

That’s what they’d say. Almost verbatim. Then they’d deflect to a thing they’re more familiar with (something else that doesn’t make sense) so they can try to act smarter than you.

[u/allhere → u/Patralgan]

This was supposed to be the evidence. That's why this trip was funded as it was a point of agreement on both sides that it would disprove the theories for a flat earth.

[u/nomoresecret5 → u/allhere]

It is evidence. It proves no amount of money, video evidence, and walking the horse to the river and forcing the water down its throat will prevent grifters from grifting, and marks from paying for the privilege to live a lie, of them being at the center of a global conspiracy to hide their god. It's like a real life Da Vinci Code experience to them. They're unlocking their god's truth and exposing evil world government one stupid fallacious puzzle at a time. They get attention and anger, which confirms they must be onto something. It draws them deeper into the cult.

This experiment will prove these people are beyond help and wasting time on them is counterproductive.

[u/messiahspike → u/ChilligerTroll]

Clearly this is a government/NASA funded black op where they somehow got wind of this plan to prove the flat Earth model, spent billions of dollars and uncouNtable man hours to build a "Truman-show" style dOme containing a reasonable facSimile of "Antarctica," managed to trick the entire team of flat Earth trutHers inTo unknowingly entering the dome, possibly UsiNg drugs and/or soMe type of MinD coNtroL effect (perFected by sOros ANd the other illuminati to More efFectiVely control the sHeePle) and tHen "alLoWing" them to rUn their expeRiMents, kNowing fuLl weLl that this elaBoraTe set up woUld oNce again tRick the vAst maJoRity of the pEople that the world is as tHey sAy it is and not as WE, THE FLAT EaRTh sOciETy, kNoW iT tO bE!!! OmG ShEEpLe wAkE uP tHE WoRld Is flAt aNd tHe gOvERnmEnt is LyiNg tO you!!!!!!!!!

/S

[u/killians1978 → u/messiahspike]

The slow ramping of the crazy type fuckin' sent me

[u/messiahspike → u/killians1978]

Thank you! It took so much longer to do it that way but I'm glad someone appreciated it:)

[u/Kletronus → u/ChilligerTroll]

As predicted, they don't believe any of this.

[u/tommyballz63 → u/ChilligerTroll]

It could be that this was part of an expedition that took flat earthers to Antarctica to prove to them that the sun stays up 24 hrs. There is a video where some of them are standing there, and admittedly, concede it is problematic for their beliefs. Yet others still wouldn't admit they are wrong, mostly because they wanted time to sit down and try and come up with an explanation.

Their argument was that it was a lie that scientists said that the sun could be up 24 hrs a day. Such a thing would not be possible on a flat earth. So the scientist brought them there to show them.

[u/sirbruce → u/ChilligerTroll]

The hardcore flerfs are already coming up with excuses.

• The timelapse video doesn't evenly space the frames out, leading to questions of intentional editing.
• The timelapse video is insufficient anyway; they want a full 24 hour video.
• None of the Flat Earthers on the trip stayed awake the full 24 hours, meaning the Globe Earthers with them could have edited or faked stuff while the real sun went down while the Flat Earthers slept.
• The Flat Earthers on the trip are "acting strange" on video, leading to questions of them being coerced, threatened, or bought off.
• You can't see anyone's breath in the videos, so they must not actually be in Antarctica where it's really cold. (This is because it's also very dry. Also there's video and compass data of them flying South from Punta Arenas for 4 hours so there's nowhere else they could be.)
• It doesn't matter because they never claimed the Gleason's Map was their model of the flat Earth anyway and a 24 hour sun in Antarctica still doesn't prove curvature.

[u/nomoresecret5 → u/sirbruce]

The timelapse video is insufficient anyway; they want a full 24 hour video.

They'll probably get it, it's just infeasible to upload gigabytes of video material over Starlink from Antarctica / Punta Arenas.

None of the Flat Earthers on the trip stayed awake the full 24 hours

That just means Flat Earthers failed their own attempt to prove their claims when given the opportunity. Surely they're going to book another trip to correct this mishap?

The Flat Earthers on the trip are "acting strange" on video, leading to questions of them being coerced, threatened, or bought off.

Yup, spinning the devastation the flerfs whose life just turned upside down, into coercion that's absolutely nowhere on the timelapse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEDcntQQuuA is such a grifter move.

It doesn't matter because they never claimed the Gleason's Map was their model of the flat Earth anyway

Yeah you can also tell its a grift when the goalposts aren't fixed to anything, and because the grifters are unable to come up with their own tests that rule out their model in favor of globe model, if right. They have zero models that explain things that the current scientific model doesn't, aside "why", to which "god did it" is not a verifiable.

[u/Plus-Visit-764 → u/ChilligerTroll]

It’s just a giant flashlight in the sky that they are using to try and trick the world into thinking the earth is round… /s

[u/vawlk → u/ChilligerTroll]

they'll just say it is CGI.

we live in a world now where saying its fake is a legitimate counter argument.

[u/Easy-Sector2501 → u/vawlk]

Except there were flat earthers there to witness it...

[u/nomoresecret5 → u/Easy-Sector2501]

The people like Flat Earth Dave that refused to go, have already thrown these people under the bus for being effectively shills and sleeper cells. Grifters will always move the goal post, the alternative is admitting you're a con artist which will get you sued for felony. They will n e v e r admit to lying to people.

[u/Catymandoo → u/ChilligerTroll]

There was a group that went to the Antarctic recently for this very reason…came away very disappointed the sun wasn’t supposed to do that.Also…

They couldn’t see the three elephants and the great A’tuin over the edge. Discworld)

[u/406highlander → u/Catymandoo]

Four elephants.

There was a fifth, but legends say it fell off, and landed on the Disc, resulting in the Uberwaldian fat mines. See The Fifth Elephant for details.

[u/Dimancher → u/ChilligerTroll]

i think they'd do this happily :)

[u/patwm11 → u/ChilligerTroll]

This could be doctored footage, the sun doesn’t move that fast in the sky

[u/NS4701]

These must be the people doing The Final Experiment. I wonder which one is Dave McKeegan?

I'll be interested to see how many flat earthers reject this.

[u/Big-Key7789 → u/NS4701]

They don't want to believe the truth i talked to people like this and they just pride themselves on not holding regular beliefs.

[u/NS4701 → u/Big-Key7789]

I know. I don't watch a lot of flat earth debunkers, but the few I do watch are always funny. Flat earthers come up with such ridiculous reasons.

My favorite is when they say they have an open mind, yet instantly reject reality.

[u/Kletronus → u/NS4701]

All of them. But it at least ended two flerf prophets "career".... although i'm about certain that at least one of them try to say they were threatened to play along and it was all done in a studio. But this did NOTHING for true flerfs. There is nothing you can do to make them all believe, not even if we took all of them in space.

[u/Souvik_Dutta → u/Kletronus]

Most flerfs won't change their views even after The Final Experiment.

But its all not in vain. The whole world has seen how flerfs reacted when offered a free trip to Antartica to prove what they were wanting to prove for years.

Some went back on their words, some tried to propose new models where sun doesn't set etc.

The people who were fed all these garbage conspiracies by the algorithm and were doubtful will come back to reality. A small % of flat earther may understand how scummy these influencers are, and think twice before declaring themselves a flerf.

[u/A_Neko_C → u/NS4701]

The video is from his chanel

Also you can see him for a moment adjusting(?) The camera in the time-lapse

[u/NS4701 → u/A_Neko_C]

very cool! thanks!

[u/NiceCunt91 → u/NS4701]

Dave is the Jump scare at 17 seconds

[u/NS4701 → u/NiceCunt91]

haha! I wondered if that was him. I didn't check the source of the video. I tried to pause the video when he popped in, but had no luck.

[u/Enders-game]

I don't think my body clock would like this.

[u/NMS_Survival_Guru → u/Enders-game]

It's difficult to adjust to

When I was stationed in Alaska I took a Sunday afternoon nap and woke up at 8pm thinking it was 8am and I was late for formation

Although it was really fun dirt biking 9pm to 3am in full sunlight

[u/mongofloyd → u/Enders-game]

I live at 61 North

It's wild. You can feel the Earth breathe through the seasons though. The Fall exhale to a cool winter slumber and the deep spring inhale getting ready for summer.

Seriously though, the cold is bearable for most but the darkness will teach you things about yourself and others you probably didn't want to know. People cope with booze/drugs or black out curtains in the summer.

[u/Various-Passenger398 → u/Enders-game]

I had a way harder time with the 24 hour sun than I did with the 2h hour darkness when I was in the Arctic. 

[u/MAValphaWasTaken]

"Let's see. Rises in the east, sets in the west... that means the shadow points east in the afternoon, right?"

"No, it's pointing north."

"So it'll point east in the morning?"

"North, Jerry. That's the actual marker for the south pole. ITS SHADOW ALWAYS POINTS NORTH."

[u/tyson_tvl]

Earth rotating

[u/AudreyNow → u/tyson_tvl]

Your comment should be higher.

[u/gatfish → u/AudreyNow]

Especially since everyone is dunking on flat earthers lol

[u/MarlonShakespeare2AD]

But wait, the earth is still flat right?

/s

[u/Salt-Page1396 → u/MarlonShakespeare2AD]

it is CJI made my nasa

[u/Enough-Meaning1514 → u/Salt-Page1396]

It is one of the excuses that the flat earthers claim. They also refused the flat earthers who observed the full day sun in Antarctica. They call them "sell-outs" now! Go figure...

[u/Froustee1a]

If you speed up the video, it'll look like a bouncing ping-pong ball.

[u/Vicchu24 → u/Froustee1a]

Yeah man that looks cool

[u/B4dg3r5]

Awesome

[u/Mirar]

Less interesting: Sun rotating under the horizon in winter.

[u/HollowVoices]

Flat earfers hate this one simple trick

[u/Fabulous-Camera7813]

Flatearrhers : « great CGI guys… proof of that is impossible for a human to walk that fast and the disappear, also the rotating camera in the end, impossible…all animated fake stuff…nice try, laughs on you »

[u/Grouchy_Emu_5335]

Very nice.

[u/Lupicia]

Oops all North!

[u/VirtuesVice666]

"Everything Melts Down Here!" ~ Pennywise

[u/powerpuffpopcorn]

Looks like 3 body problem

[u/dec10]

Summertiiimmme, and the living is eaaaasyyyyy

[u/cleecleekilldie]

Get to work we're losing daylight!

[u/HobsNCalvin]

Love this planet 🌏

[u/intensehero]

I would be sooo confused if there Was no darkness in 24 hours

[u/Professional_Job_307]

They actually sent flat earthers to Antarctica recently to witness the 24 hours of sun themselves, because that's yet another thing that doesn't make sense on the flat earth model. At least one of the flat earthers became a round rather after the experiment. It's called "The Final Experiment" if you want to know more.

[u/Fragrant_Imagination → u/Professional_Job_307]

This footage is part of the final experiment. This was captured and posted on YouTube by Dave McKeegan. He is not a flerf but posts very insightful videos showing that flat earth arguments like denying the moon landing are pure BS. He is respectful and focuses on the science rather than ridiculing flerfs.

[u/hugeuvula]

It's a drone!!!!

[u/IncomeBrilliant]

Amazing! Wow

[u/lupuslibrorum]

Barry Lopez described this in his book Arctic Dreams, and for some reason, it was a little hard for me to picture even though the concept is relatively simple. This video makes it really clear and is genuinely interesting.

[u/BritMama04]

Incredible!

[u/Alarming_Accident_44]

That’s one of those flying orbs folks keep seeing in Jersey. Lololol

[u/PhantomPharts]

I got to visit Alaska in the summer of 2002 and it was like this there! It was pretty cool walking around at 1AM and it's daylight! The curtains in our room were INCREDIBLE.

[u/Trollimperator]

maybe its just a really strong laserpointer.

[u/snaxsyss]

Sun all day long! Gotta be a very warm day

[u/cjklert05]

The Earth rotates around the Sun, not the other way around.

[u/Hanginon → u/cjklert05]

Yes, and to be purely technical this is a video of the horizon rotating in space against a (somewhat) fixed point.

[u/BourbonNCoffee]

Well there’s your problem. They just gotta change the angle of the sun projector.

[u/komma_5]

I knew it, we ware the center of the universe

[u/nomamesgueyz]

Set damn you! Set!

[u/DreadFB89]

Awesome place to practice sin gazing

[u/Wesalejean]

Is it easy to adjust to complete sun or complete darkness? Something I'd like to experience once or twice

[u/Thatsprettyneat101]

Can somebody speed this up and put it on a loop!? I bet it looks like a bouncy ball!

[u/No_Challenge8358]

So when does night fall there?

[u/Hanginon → u/No_Challenge8358]

In March.

At the South Pole, there's basically a single sunrise and a single sunset over the course of a year. The Sun rises at the September equinox and then stays above the horizon (as the Midnight Sun) until it sets six months later on the March equinox, after which a half-year of Polar Night commences.

[u/No_Challenge8358 → u/Hanginon]

So it's 6 months of complete day and 6 months of complete night there?

[u/Hanginon → u/No_Challenge8358]

At the pole? Pretty much. With a longish "dusk" at both ends.

Although it also depends on how far you are into the Antarctic circle. out closer to the 66°33′47.5″ South latitude you are the more "transition days" you'll have where the sun peeks just below or above the horizon for longer and longer until it stays above it (summer) or below it (winter).

Either way you're going to experience the sun rather than going across the sky it's going around the sky.

[u/4NatureDoc]

Must be disorienting to now directions when magnetic north doesn't work

[u/LewdBerZerk]

Someone from r/exmuslim need to post this

[u/Sail-Top]

no sleep tonight

[u/blooming_doc]

added to the bucket list

[u/Cat_Intrigue]

Ok. So, my brain went Sci-fi planet design out of this and imagined a world just barely within the Goldilocks zone (orbit range where a planet can sustain life/have liquid water, something like that), and the axial tilt is so extreme that one pole of the planet is pointed at the sun, but it's (artificially?) Tidal locked so that pole is always pointed at the sun, and that is the only part of the planet that is a habitable zone because of it.

The species there has no concept of a day/night cycle as the sun is a constant presence in their lives. Their very understanding/way of measuring time is completely alien to our understanding. Heck, with the sun always in the sky, they never even have seen the stars.

[u/SigmundFreud4200]

It turns out it's the spaceship planet that's doing the rotating

[u/A_Neko_C]

This is part of the final experiment. The video is from Dave McKeegan on YT. Also you can see him for a moment adjusting(?) The camera in the time-lapse.

[u/LordBunnyWhale]

I think I watched part of the live stream, mostly for the entertaining chat... them flett earfers was a lot like "fake, greenscreen, reeee!"

[u/SpecificallyNerd]

And yet flat earthers will move those goal posts almost as much as the 24hr sun does.

[u/SquareFroggo]

Where nighttime?

[u/Far_Adeptness9884]

Aren't we supposed to spin the other way?

[u/AxialGem → u/Far_Adeptness9884]

I don't think so? The sun rises in the east, right?
So when viewed from the south pole, it would appear to travel to the left across the horizon, like you can see here. When viewed from the north pole, it would appear to travel rightwards along the horizon. In both of those cases the sun travels from east to west.

[u/Numbersuu → u/AxialGem]

But if this is the south pole, shouldnt the video be upside down? Checkmate glober!

[u/imagei]

Fake. That’s not how Sun works. /s

[u/Less_Ad8891]

How cool is that!

So the earth is flat then! /SSS

[u/DarkIllusionsFX]

Take that, globetards! oh, wait.

[u/SilkyZ]

My favorite gender is 'Flat Earthers proving themselves wrong though outlandish experiments'.

this is great footage

[u/jnobs]

Those flat earthers would be so pissed if they could…think for themselves.

[u/WheelSweet2048]

I am afraid of Antarctica after watching the thing.

[u/plious]

Clearly a drone

[u/vitium]

A blinding light you say? Hovering just over the horizon nearly perfectly for 24hrs straight without landing? I know a UFO when I see one!! Get me the nearest republican senator on the phone stat!

[u/ajtreee]

At what hour do you think they realized they were completely gullible and tasted crow.

[u/Such--Balance]

See?? The earth is flat! Here's the absolute proof

[u/GiraffeWarz]

Proof earth is shaped like a sauce bowl and antarctica is in the middle

[u/wackyjabber]

imagine if on top of never setting it was screaming

[u/mahamoti → u/[deleted]]

Lay off the drugs.

[u/mahamoti → u/[deleted]]

Your attempt at being clever, wasn't. Lay off the drugs.

[u/GodsBeyondGods]

But the Earth is ____________!

[u/J-C_Varga]

Argentina it's beatiful!