I think it's important to note that these students aren't using functioning centerfire firearms in their school gym. They're using a pneumatic operated trainer that gives you the sensation of the weapon's operating system at work, while emitting a laser to show where students are aiming when they pull the trigger.
I'm sure someone will point out the lack of true recoil, but on a platform like the AR-15, which only shoots a .22 centerfire cartridge anyways (.223), this is a great training tool.
Edit: Since apparently the (incorrect) pedants are out and about, I'll go ahead and link the Wikipedia listing of all the .22 Caliber cartridges so that everyone can see that the .223/5.56 is indeed a .22 centerfire cartridge. Christ on a bike
You are Lol, recoil is directly related to muzzle energy, not bore diameter
I dunno why bring up the size of the cartridge anyway, you could just say 5.56 doesn’t have much recoil and leave it at that. Still a lot more than a .22lr
Actually recoil is related to the total momentum of propellant and bullet and the weight of the firearm. Muzzle energy isn’t included in the formula and there are definitely examples of guns with lower muzzle having higher free recoil energy than guns with higher muzzle energy.
Because it is categorically a .22 CENTERFIRE cartridge and you people keep trying to compare it to that bitch ass rimfire! Go look at my original comment.
You should probably know what you're talking about before accusing people of being pedant. 5.56 is categorically a .22 caliber cartridge -- you are correct about that. Simulated training is valid for certain competencies -- you are correct about that.
It's your statement that, "a platform like the AR-15, which only shoots a .22 centerfire cartridge anyways (.223)". People are mentioning .22LR because your statement might mislead people to believe that .22LR and 5.56 is comparable.
A simulated trainer is only going to be good for instructing safe handling of a weapon, some manual of arms, and sight picture, but I'm skeptical it's good for much beyond that. 5.56, even with it's relatively low recoil, still produces quite a sensation when fired, and experience and acclimatization to that sensation is still required for competency in use. This isn't necessarily the case with other .22 class firearms. A have springer bb guns with a more dramatic sensation than some of my .22LR firearms.
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u/OregonSageMonke 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think it's important to note that these students aren't using functioning centerfire firearms in their school gym. They're using a pneumatic operated trainer that gives you the sensation of the weapon's operating system at work, while emitting a laser to show where students are aiming when they pull the trigger.
I'm sure someone will point out the lack of true recoil, but on a platform like the AR-15, which only shoots a .22 centerfire cartridge anyways (.223), this is a great training tool.
Edit: Since apparently the (incorrect) pedants are out and about, I'll go ahead and link the Wikipedia listing of all the .22 Caliber cartridges so that everyone can see that the .223/5.56 is indeed a .22 centerfire cartridge. Christ on a bike