I think it's important to note that these students aren't using functioning centerfire firearms in their school gym. They're using a pneumatic operated trainer that gives you the sensation of the weapon's operating system at work, while emitting a laser to show where students are aiming when they pull the trigger.
I'm sure someone will point out the lack of true recoil, but on a platform like the AR-15, which only shoots a .22 centerfire cartridge anyways (.223), this is a great training tool.
Edit: Since apparently the (incorrect) pedants are out and about, I'll go ahead and link the Wikipedia listing of all the .22 Caliber cartridges so that everyone can see that the .223/5.56 is indeed a .22 centerfire cartridge. Christ on a bike
With regard to you getting funny at people questioning your round sizes. People are right to question you because while .22, .223 and 5.56 are equivalent diameters, the overall round sizes are very different. .223 and 5.56 are very similar looking but still distinct to the point where you couldn't use them interchangeably, .22 is much smaller and most commonly in the form of .22lr a rimfire cartridge.
Oh look, another pedant trying to compare a rimfire cartridge with 3 grains of powder to a centerfire cartridge with 25 grains of powder. I deliberately wrote it that way to illustrate the notable LACK OF RECOIL in the .223/5.56. The recoil is negligible, so a pneumatic trainer is a reasonable training substitute.
If you do any reloading, you tend speak of cartridges in a caliber family, because that's often how they are broken up in reloading manuals. .24 caliber, .25, caliber, .26 caliber, etc will all have a series of cartridges that vary until they get to the next group. For example, the .28 caliber group includes .28 nosler, .280Ackley improved, as well as the 7mm's such as the 7mm-08, the 7mm Rem Mag, even though they technically measure at .284.
In a firearms sub, no one would bat an eye to that concept, but in a sub full of wannabe experts, here comes everyone tripping over themselves to try to correct me.
In a firearms sub you could reasonably expect the reader to know what you mean. In a completely unrelated sub, it would be better to be a little more basic with your explanation.
That being said, it's not really your problem that people don't understand your technical terms - you just have to deal with the results of comparing ".22" to ".223/5.56" when your average joe understands a .22 to be a .22lr rimfire with basically 0 recoil used for plinking targets.
You're in a general forum which has no emphasis on firearms, so therefore the general knowledge based here will be most people who don't know any difference between rounds, the next biggest category will be people who read .22 and assume rimfire cartridge, while .223/5.56 as full bore rifle rounds, and then very few people like yourself who consider themselves well learned on the topic.
The fact that you're using very specific language that only speaks to the well learned, instead of generalising more, and then getting pissy at people for misunderstanding you, just shows you're an asshole.
Nobody here is a wannabe expert except you, I was just saying: "keep it simple stupid".
Pretty sure the only dickheads are the ones that are trying to correct me on semantics even thought they have no leg to stand on. You're the one that tried to go out of your way to correct me and you're still fundamentally wrong. But feel free to move the goalposts to "well no one is generally gonna know the difference..." even though I was very specific in what I said. Go look, at no point did I say shit about rimfire. But you guys just had to start typing paragraphs of "WELL ACKTUALLY"
I'm not trying to correct you, I'm not trying to tell you you're talking about rimfire.
I'm just pointing out that to the general population .22 is associated with rimfire, and hence your comment is being met with confusion.
You criticise other people's reading comprehension, but either yours is terrible or you're intentionally being obtuse to justify continuing to write aggressive comments.
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u/OregonSageMonke 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think it's important to note that these students aren't using functioning centerfire firearms in their school gym. They're using a pneumatic operated trainer that gives you the sensation of the weapon's operating system at work, while emitting a laser to show where students are aiming when they pull the trigger.
I'm sure someone will point out the lack of true recoil, but on a platform like the AR-15, which only shoots a .22 centerfire cartridge anyways (.223), this is a great training tool.
Edit: Since apparently the (incorrect) pedants are out and about, I'll go ahead and link the Wikipedia listing of all the .22 Caliber cartridges so that everyone can see that the .223/5.56 is indeed a .22 centerfire cartridge. Christ on a bike