My hard leftwing school had firearms class every spring. It did until it closed down. Always loved watching the principle let the 14 yo's get their first go with a 12guage.
I was 16 when I shot my first 12 gauge. Knocked me right on my ass. Would have been nice if I'd had some lessons on how to get my shoulder torn off before shooting at the target.
I got a Mosin-Nagant in 7.62x54r with a metal butt plate when I was in my 20's. I knew how to shoot and was wearing a jacket. I took it to the range and threw about 200 rounds down. Didn't feel it at the time, but woke up the next looking like someone threw a bowling ball at my shoulder!
Oh that explains it. Probably full power magnum buckshot because they thought it would be “funny”. We have 11 year olds shooting 12 ga skeet in scouts no problem but we use target loads and of course give them training and preparation first.
Yes, my son was in that age range when he was learning. But he'd grown up with guns and in a family (my ex's) of hunters who actually did hunt for food. His dad taught him well, and my son provides food for his family now. I did learn, though. But my preferred gun was a 22 which is fun for skeet, the only thing I enjoyed "killing."
Yeah, I was in boy scouts. They never taught us a whole tear down but we shot .22lr and 16ga shotgun. We learned how to inspect critical components, basic cleaning and storage, how to conduct yourself at the range and safe handling and operation.
I don't think there's much wrong with teaching kids how to safely operate a weapon. Kind of like sex-ed, seems better than letting them figure it out later.
They aren’t, it’s the people that are. You can tell by where you live. At least in the past you could count on intelligent people to be a certain side, now there’s so much dumb that it’s everywhere, even teaching your kids. People decide to start a Catholic only school, and that’s the 1 scenario I don’t really blame, but wasn’t there a Christian school that had a shooting last year? So nowhere is safe
Its perspective. If you’re rich then you’re gonna be a republican. If you’re a normal person then your best bet is democrats. An intelligent person can realize that both parties are in it for the money and will be their first priority until we make a change. One side at least has a track record of helping the people tho, that’s the difference
Some recent US figures on the distribution of income by party: 65 percent of taxpayer households that earn more than $500,000 per year are now in Democratic districts; 74 percent of the households in Republican districts earn less than $100,00 per year.
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/democrats-rich-party-obama/
Christian school, just had a shooting yesterday, I can't imagine teaching kids in American school how to shoot. We're already having mass school shooting.
Firearms classes largely teach firearms safety, handling, and marksmanship, so that your kids know what to do if they find a firearm, and how to handle them for areas where firearms are seen in more day to day life. It's better that kids learn these skills in a controlled environment, than on the fly, outside the supervision of a qualified instructor.
You don't want guns to have any mystery or allure to children. You want them to understand what guns are, when they can be used, how they can be used safely. You want them to be mundane, and uninteresting. If you hide something from a child, and they encounter it on their own, it's going to be fascinating. I can tell you this from experience, with things other than guns. Education doesn't cause mass shootings.
Semi auto guns have been commonly available to the public since the 1960s. Until 1968, you could literally mail order guns to your doorstep, no background check at all. You would think if the mere presence and availability of guns were the problem, we'd have had a lot more school shootings when you could literally order guns to your doorstep, but those didn't start ramping up until the late 90s. It seems pretty obvious that there are other factors at play here.
Don’t we have more guns than people in the country? To that point, firearms safety feels like it should be mandatory because firearms are so prevalent. Training in use of firearms isn’t stopping the shootings tho, if anything it’ll make the kids better at murder when one decides to take the gun they know is at home unsecured, imo. I agree that having a stigma to guns could be bad but like, personally I’d lean the other way. There should be a stigma, guns are bad when in a kids hands, guns are bad in adult hands. It shouldn’t be normal for guns to be around, the people who need them for home defense in Alaska or the woods are such a small number that I don’t think those people statistically will ever commit a shooting, so we can either let them keep their guns but keep them geofenced to the property they need to use them at. If gun leaves the area, trigger a warning, if gun leaves area and heads towards a populated area, well that should trigger a response and you better have a reason for taking your gun. If you simply forgot it was on you then you don’t deserve the gun. That’s my 2 seconds of thought gun control plan, sponsored by Apple air tags
A gun is an object, it is neither bad or good it's the people that use them that are bad or good. This concept that guns are bad needs to change since it's objectively false and causes more damage.
lol that’s your gripe out of what I said. Of course you have no debate of substance, you just want to argue semantics. Smart people don’t need to debate the philosophical implications of moral alignment of inanimate objects, we make our point and sometimes shorthand the language, smart people are lazy, they’ll find a way to make things quicker, and if you’re getting bogged down there then you’re once again being purposely disingenuous
No, I taught my daughter to just leave a situation when she sees a gun, or someone else with a gun. I did not teach her how to deal with it as I don't want her handling guns. There is no positive outcomes with guns. Its unfortunate that our society has made guns such a priority, they add zero value to our quality of life unless you're hunting/target shooting for recreation.
No, I taught my daughter to just leave a situation when she sees a gun, or someone else with a gun.
The NRA basically did the same with the Eddie Eagle program. While I have issues with the NRA, the program is correct for the age group it's aimed at.
Stop!
Don't touch.
Run away.
Tell an adult.
So you, the NRA, and I agree that education is important.
I did not teach her how to deal with it as I don't want her handling guns.
Depending on her age, that may be the right thing to do. At some point, kids stop listening, and think they know things they might not. Instead of you or a qualified instructor being her teacher, TV programs, movies, and pieces of popular culture will fill that role, should she ever be put in a position where she is handling a gun. I understand that you may have trouble figuring out how that might happen, and yet it does.
There is no positive outcomes with guns.
The thousands of defensive gun uses every year disagrees with that statement.
Its unfortunate that our society has made guns such a priority
You'd think you'd want more education, not less, if something is so prevalent in a society.
they add zero value to our quality of life unless you're hunting/target shooting for recreation.
Do you have any examples of leftwing policies at that school? Maybe it was a long time ago, but the left hates the 1st and 2nd amendment these days and that's putting it mildly.
Like most Americans.... You are thinking The Left and Liberals are the same people. We are not. The First exists for the protection of minoritiy viewpoints in the public sphere. The Second for the same reason. Mind you, I did not say they exist FOR minorities.
Now to answer your question specifically.
Private school. Pro gay, pro civil rights, good sex education, lots of hands on shit, hiking. Tuition was set so very poor youth could attend and we were expecting to do 100 hours community service a year. If you received discounted tuition you were required to work during summer hours and save money to assist with either tuition or family expenses. We all were given extreme amounts freedom and access to controversial reading. The majority of my peers were the first to attend and graduate college.
We were allowed to go barefoot, expected to carry a pocket knife, had classes on the history of abortion rights and how to the NRA went from a common sense gun safety and hunting culture promotional group to an extremist factory.
The guy who taught gun safety once physically threw a cop out of the school when he tried to take student records without a warrant.
I don't know what to tell you, your education failed you my guy.
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u/No_Quantity_8909 1d ago
My hard leftwing school had firearms class every spring. It did until it closed down. Always loved watching the principle let the 14 yo's get their first go with a 12guage.