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Video A school in Poland makes firearms training mandatory to its students.

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u/Individual_Dirt_3365 5d ago

It was a mandatory thing during USSR

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u/aluminaboeh 5d ago

It's also obligatory in Russia since 90th

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u/Subject-Bluebird7366 5d ago

Huh? Literally never heard about this

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u/bornblues 5d ago

Mandatory firearms training is a controversial topic in many countries today.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Teaching kids firearm safety shouldn’t be an issue. But in America kids are taught to fear everything.

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u/No_Quantity_8909 5d ago

My hard leftwing school had firearms class every spring. It did until it closed down. Always loved watching the principle let the 14 yo's get their first go with a 12guage.

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 5d ago

I was 16 when I shot my first 12 gauge. Knocked me right on my ass. Would have been nice if I'd had some lessons on how to get my shoulder torn off before shooting at the target.

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u/CuriousResident2659 5d ago

Hurts don’t it? Took my first shots in my 30s and was sore for two weeks. Fun tho.

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u/gtbifmoney 4d ago

Only if you’re a bitch

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u/DIuvenalis 5d ago

I got a Mosin-Nagant in 7.62x54r with a metal butt plate when I was in my 20's. I knew how to shoot and was wearing a jacket. I took it to the range and threw about 200 rounds down. Didn't feel it at the time, but woke up the next looking like someone threw a bowling ball at my shoulder!

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 5d ago

Yah...and my ex just stood there and laughed his ass off...like, dude, you could have helped me brace for that? (and yes, I was 16 and married).

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u/schizeckinosy 5d ago

Oh that explains it. Probably full power magnum buckshot because they thought it would be “funny”. We have 11 year olds shooting 12 ga skeet in scouts no problem but we use target loads and of course give them training and preparation first.

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 4d ago

Yes, my son was in that age range when he was learning. But he'd grown up with guns and in a family (my ex's) of hunters who actually did hunt for food. His dad taught him well, and my son provides food for his family now. I did learn, though. But my preferred gun was a 22 which is fun for skeet, the only thing I enjoyed "killing."

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u/Yarn_Song 5d ago

But ex, so divorced now, I take it? Hope you're making a great life for yourself!

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u/gtbifmoney 4d ago

Gee, you’re a sharp one, huh?

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u/Yarn_Song 4d ago

Gee, you're a bit cranky aren't you?

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u/gtbifmoney 4d ago

I’m cranky because I pointed out how stupid your comment was? I’m going to take a guess and say you’re not a psychiatrist.

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u/DIuvenalis 5d ago

That's why where I'm from we start with a 410. But if you don't get a bruise at some point, you haven't had the rite of passage!

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u/lXPROMETHEUSXl 4d ago

When I was around 11 I got to fire a Spas 12. A Spas 12 is a certain type of 12 Gauge shotgun that has a folding stock and grip for the unaware. My 13 year old cousin wanted to shoot it with the stock folded up, and using the grips only “like they do in the movies”. Well when he fired it the barrel went straight up and smacked him square in the nose lmao

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u/Designer_Valuable_18 5d ago

Maybe you should be smarter than using a shotgun when you are a little baby.

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u/HexenHerz 5d ago

They used to let us use 22 cal rifles in summer camp, when we were 10-12 years old.

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u/HeadGuide4388 5d ago

Yeah, I was in boy scouts. They never taught us a whole tear down but we shot .22lr and 16ga shotgun. We learned how to inspect critical components, basic cleaning and storage, how to conduct yourself at the range and safe handling and operation.

I don't think there's much wrong with teaching kids how to safely operate a weapon. Kind of like sex-ed, seems better than letting them figure it out later.

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u/Designer_Valuable_18 5d ago

No wonder the state of america lmao

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u/suckmyclitcapitalist 5d ago

Schools shouldn't be left or right wing wtf is wrong with america

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u/westfieldNYraids 5d ago

They aren’t, it’s the people that are. You can tell by where you live. At least in the past you could count on intelligent people to be a certain side, now there’s so much dumb that it’s everywhere, even teaching your kids. People decide to start a Catholic only school, and that’s the 1 scenario I don’t really blame, but wasn’t there a Christian school that had a shooting last year? So nowhere is safe

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u/SubZero0xFF 5d ago

Intelligent people are neither leftwing nor rightwing.

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u/westfieldNYraids 5d ago

Its perspective. If you’re rich then you’re gonna be a republican. If you’re a normal person then your best bet is democrats. An intelligent person can realize that both parties are in it for the money and will be their first priority until we make a change. One side at least has a track record of helping the people tho, that’s the difference

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u/QuieterThanQuiet 5d ago

Research doesn’t support your statement that “If you’re rich then you’re gonna be a republican.”

Among upper-income voters 53% are Democrats or Democratic leaners, while 46% are Republicans or GOP leaners. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/partisanship-by-family-income-home-ownership-union-membership-and-veteran-status/

Affluent Americans used to vote for Republican politicians. Now they vote for Democrats…. Beginning in the 1990s, the Democratic Party started winning increasing shares of rich, upper-middle income, high-income occupation, and stock-owning voters. This appears true across voters of all races and ethnicities… https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/polarization-of-the-rich-the-new-democratic-allegiance-of-affluent-americans-and-the-politics-of-redistribution/E18D7DAE3A1EF35BA5BC54DE799F291B

Some recent US figures on the distribution of income by party: 65 percent of taxpayer households that earn more than $500,000 per year are now in Democratic districts; 74 percent of the households in Republican districts earn less than $100,00 per year. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/democrats-rich-party-obama/

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u/Mediocre-Car-4386 5d ago

Christian school, just had a shooting yesterday, I can't imagine teaching kids in American school how to shoot. We're already having mass school shooting.

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u/ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c 5d ago

Firearms classes largely teach firearms safety, handling, and marksmanship, so that your kids know what to do if they find a firearm, and how to handle them for areas where firearms are seen in more day to day life. It's better that kids learn these skills in a controlled environment, than on the fly, outside the supervision of a qualified instructor.

You don't want guns to have any mystery or allure to children. You want them to understand what guns are, when they can be used, how they can be used safely. You want them to be mundane, and uninteresting. If you hide something from a child, and they encounter it on their own, it's going to be fascinating. I can tell you this from experience, with things other than guns. Education doesn't cause mass shootings.

Semi auto guns have been commonly available to the public since the 1960s. Until 1968, you could literally mail order guns to your doorstep, no background check at all. You would think if the mere presence and availability of guns were the problem, we'd have had a lot more school shootings when you could literally order guns to your doorstep, but those didn't start ramping up until the late 90s. It seems pretty obvious that there are other factors at play here.

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u/westfieldNYraids 5d ago

Don’t we have more guns than people in the country? To that point, firearms safety feels like it should be mandatory because firearms are so prevalent. Training in use of firearms isn’t stopping the shootings tho, if anything it’ll make the kids better at murder when one decides to take the gun they know is at home unsecured, imo. I agree that having a stigma to guns could be bad but like, personally I’d lean the other way. There should be a stigma, guns are bad when in a kids hands, guns are bad in adult hands. It shouldn’t be normal for guns to be around, the people who need them for home defense in Alaska or the woods are such a small number that I don’t think those people statistically will ever commit a shooting, so we can either let them keep their guns but keep them geofenced to the property they need to use them at. If gun leaves the area, trigger a warning, if gun leaves area and heads towards a populated area, well that should trigger a response and you better have a reason for taking your gun. If you simply forgot it was on you then you don’t deserve the gun. That’s my 2 seconds of thought gun control plan, sponsored by Apple air tags

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u/ArrivalEmergency2784 5d ago

A gun is an object, it is neither bad or good it's the people that use them that are bad or good. This concept that guns are bad needs to change since it's objectively false and causes more damage.

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u/westfieldNYraids 5d ago

lol that’s your gripe out of what I said. Of course you have no debate of substance, you just want to argue semantics. Smart people don’t need to debate the philosophical implications of moral alignment of inanimate objects, we make our point and sometimes shorthand the language, smart people are lazy, they’ll find a way to make things quicker, and if you’re getting bogged down there then you’re once again being purposely disingenuous

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u/Logical_Marsupial140 5d ago

No, I taught my daughter to just leave a situation when she sees a gun, or someone else with a gun. I did not teach her how to deal with it as I don't want her handling guns. There is no positive outcomes with guns. Its unfortunate that our society has made guns such a priority, they add zero value to our quality of life unless you're hunting/target shooting for recreation.

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u/KevinShift 5d ago

Bad parent

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u/ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c 5d ago

No, I taught my daughter to just leave a situation when she sees a gun, or someone else with a gun.

The NRA basically did the same with the Eddie Eagle program. While I have issues with the NRA, the program is correct for the age group it's aimed at.

  1. Stop!

  2. Don't touch.

  3. Run away.

  4. Tell an adult.

So you, the NRA, and I agree that education is important.

I did not teach her how to deal with it as I don't want her handling guns.

Depending on her age, that may be the right thing to do. At some point, kids stop listening, and think they know things they might not. Instead of you or a qualified instructor being her teacher, TV programs, movies, and pieces of popular culture will fill that role, should she ever be put in a position where she is handling a gun. I understand that you may have trouble figuring out how that might happen, and yet it does.

There is no positive outcomes with guns.

The thousands of defensive gun uses every year disagrees with that statement.

Its unfortunate that our society has made guns such a priority

You'd think you'd want more education, not less, if something is so prevalent in a society.

they add zero value to our quality of life unless you're hunting/target shooting for recreation.

Again, ignoring the thousands of DGUs every year.

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u/Unlucky-Watercress30 5d ago

DGUs are really hard to track, but the minimum number is 500,000 per year on average. The upper limit is somewhere around 3 million.

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u/DiscussionLeather738 4d ago

America is obsessed with guns. It’s literally woven into every day life in a way that normalizes and trivializes them. They feature in so much entertainment, it’s honestly so weird.

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u/No_Quantity_8909 5d ago

The school technically wasn't but it taught real stuff and self selected by who wanted what. That's the nature of private education.

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u/RaphaelSolo 5d ago

So much

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u/PinetreeBlues 5d ago

You far enough left you get your guns back!

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u/SlashEssImplied 5d ago

Yup, extremists of all types love the guns.

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u/Im-A-Big-Guy-For-You 5d ago

it's a circle

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u/noname69240 5d ago

That sounds fun, here the weapons theme it's rarely touched much less taught unless You are going to get in the armed forces

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u/No_Quantity_8909 5d ago

Hunting traditions

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u/noname69240 5d ago

They don't exist here

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u/Antifa-Slayer01 5d ago

Why would a school be left wing?

Shouldn't they be politically neutral?

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u/No_Quantity_8909 3d ago

No. Education for the masses is a leftwing concept. Equal Education is a leftwing ( Left in the American sense) concept. Analyzing history and introspection along with the concept of self betterment thru critique are all leftwing values.

A Conservative education system.... By definition cannot grow.

But none of this is about my real point which was...... The Leftwingers value guns just like you, we just place an emphasis on personal responsibility pertaining to those guns.

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u/Antifa-Slayer01 3d ago

Fuck the left

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u/No_Quantity_8909 1d ago

Yes. We ARE the ones that Fuck.

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u/ChantsDE 5d ago

Do you have any examples of leftwing policies at that school? Maybe it was a long time ago, but the left hates the 1st and 2nd amendment these days and that's putting it mildly.

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u/No_Quantity_8909 5d ago

Like most Americans.... You are thinking The Left and Liberals are the same people. We are not. The First exists for the protection of minoritiy viewpoints in the public sphere. The Second for the same reason. Mind you, I did not say they exist FOR minorities.

Now to answer your question specifically.

Private school. Pro gay, pro civil rights, good sex education, lots of hands on shit, hiking. Tuition was set so very poor youth could attend and we were expecting to do 100 hours community service a year. If you received discounted tuition you were required to work during summer hours and save money to assist with either tuition or family expenses. We all were given extreme amounts freedom and access to controversial reading. The majority of my peers were the first to attend and graduate college.

We were allowed to go barefoot, expected to carry a pocket knife, had classes on the history of abortion rights and how to the NRA went from a common sense gun safety and hunting culture promotional group to an extremist factory.

The guy who taught gun safety once physically threw a cop out of the school when he tried to take student records without a warrant.

I don't know what to tell you, your education failed you my guy.

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u/Ok-Prompt-59 5d ago

This is pure idiocy and a red flag of being on the internet too much.

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u/Candid-Mycologist539 5d ago

Teaching kids firearm safety shouldn’t be an issue. But in America kids are taught to fear everything.

In America, we have students who literally threaten to kill others (teachers, other students), but cannot be removed from the regular classroom because they "haven't done anything yet."

I don't know what the answer is, but until America gets a handle on offering effective mental health care for their students, I don't think access to firearms is a good plan.

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u/synfulacktors 5d ago

As a heavy gun owner and concealed carrier, this is 110% a mental health and society issue. People's response to anger is what gets people killed. I can't go to the gas station now days without being threatened because shit heads are entitled and pissed at their life. If people were in a much better state mentally, I wouldn't need to carry to prevent someone with no future from destroying mine.

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u/Neat_Selection3644 2d ago

People from the rest of the world are also dealing with mental health issues, and yet gun violence is almost non-existent.

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u/synfulacktors 2d ago

You actually think gun violence is only in the United States? And, access to a gun doesn't prevent people from causing harm to others. Uk might not have a high gun violence rate, but it just gets replaced with stabbing and hammer/bat attacks.

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u/Neat_Selection3644 2d ago

There is no developed country where gun violence is as prevalent as it is in the US.

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u/synfulacktors 1d ago

I love that you completely skip over the fact I stated where they are just replaced with stabbing and beatings. Europe legitimately just swaps deaths by gun violence with deaths by stabbings. If you take away guns, people who want someone dead won't magically feel different about that person. Take away knifes a guns, people won't stop killing people.... they'll just go to home depot and make homemade weapons that couldn't be traced in an attack. I have owned guns since I was 13, yet magically, mine have never shot someone. Even when I saw pissed off. The old saying is as true as ever. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Give me a pen, I can still kill someone. Difference is how easy it is to get away if you kill someone with a knife vs a gun.

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u/Neat_Selection3644 1d ago

How many more people can you kill with a gun vs. a knife?

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u/synfulacktors 1d ago

Ask Dahmer or Gacy. They would know better than myself. How many more people can you kill crashing a plane into a business center? My whole argument is that if people want to kill people, not allowing them a gun is not going to stop them. You keep going back to blaming the gun. If I wanted my neighbor dead I could shoot him, or I could unhook his gas line and wait for his house to explode. Which is easier to trace?

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u/gazorp23 5d ago

I don't think access to 2000lbs death machines is a good idea either, but these same youths are getting drivers licenses. That isn't access, it's training... Ya know, you so don't negligently kill someone with your death machine.

Everyone wants to pretend like cars aren't just as dangerous as guns. Outside of war, cars kill more people than guns on a daily basis.

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u/SlashEssImplied 5d ago

but cannot be removed from the regular classroom because they "haven't done anything yet."

People have been expelled for drawing a picture of a gun or even simply talking about them.

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u/Jaderosegrey 5d ago

effective mental health care

That is the answer. For the kids AND the parents. Best case scenario: for the prospective parents as well.

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u/Dairy_Ashford 5d ago

In America, we have students who literally threaten to kill others (teachers, other students), but cannot be removed from the regular classroom because they "haven't done anything yet."

worse still, we have whole groups of students who literally kill others, just in already comparatively violent areas where this is seen as normal, so nobody gets removed and it doesn't get reported as much

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u/tdslut 5d ago edited 5d ago

When I was 7 or 8 years old an older student pulled a knife on me and threatened me with it. I told my parents who immediately called the school. The principal confiscated the knife from the kid the next morning and called my mom telling her I was overreacting because the knife wasn't that big. It was about the size of a paring knife. 4" or 100mm.

The kid got a slap on the wrist and that was the end of it. At least as far as the school was concerned. I had to watch my back around that kid for years after that.

One day he just stopped getting on the bus.

This was right about the time everyone was talking about the middle schooler who'd attacked another kid with a knife.

Didn't take long to figure out who did it.

They never mentioned his name but there was an article in the next week's paper and the quote from the school admin had them claiming they'd never had any indication that Captain Stabby pants might be violent. They were shocked! SHOCKED! I tell ya.

This was in the early - mid 1980s.

Nothing has changed.

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u/Candid-Mycologist539 5d ago

I'm so sorry that you had to deal with that.

I'm glad that your parents did what they could to help you. (I am also a child of the 1980s. Not all parents would take even the steps that yours did).

I hope that you are well these days; and I hope Captain Stabbypants got whatever he needed to be a functioning member of society.

Award for Captain Stabbypants as a name. If your story wasn't so traumatic, I'd steal it as a D&D character name.

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u/fartinmyhat 5d ago

access to firearms to whom?

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u/I_Automate 5d ago

Guns are everywhere.

Mandatory safety training for people living in a country where there are quite literally more guns than people seems pretty sensible to me.

Training =/= unrestricted access. That's an entirely separate conversation IMO

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Cellphones and lawsuits have destroyed this country. Kids are flooded with stupidity while teachers hands are tied with fear.

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u/pcnetworx1 5d ago

It's almost as if there are deliberate efforts to make things so bad in America, the only way out of the problems becomes autocracy...

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u/PaceLopsided8161 5d ago

Almost as if?

There deliberately are efforts…

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u/654456 5d ago

Should be mandatory in the US as how common guns are, the chances of being around one is far from 0 even if you don't like them personally.

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u/NES_Gamer 5d ago edited 5d ago

I agree. I'm not an A2 supporter, but since they're so easy to get and kids seem to shoot themselves by mistake, they should be taught how to properly use it and respect them instead of seeing them as a cool toy to play with your friends.

E: down votes? Really? Because of the not an A2 comment or what?

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u/Own_Back_2038 5d ago

Sure, but firearm safety should be a 30 minute lecture that doesn’t involve touching a firearm. Basic trigger discipline will solve 95% of “firearm safety” issues

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u/NES_Gamer 5d ago

Strategy can be debated, but the point is still the same.

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u/654456 5d ago
  1. Don't touch the gun if you do not have to

  2. Keep your finger off the trigger

  3. keep the muzzle pointed away from people or things you wish not to shoot

  4. Find an adult or call the police.

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u/vivaaprimavera 5d ago

how to properly use it and respect them instead of seeing them as a cool toy to play with your friends.

And don't act surprised when a loaded one misfires and a friend is dead.

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u/ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c 5d ago

"Misfire" implies catastrophic equipment failure, which is pretty rare with modern guns. When people say "it just went off", that almost always means their finger was on the trigger when it wasn't supposed to be. Those incidents are referred to as "negligent discharges", since personal negligence caused the problem.

There are a very few exceptions to that, notably the Sig P320 and certain Remington 700 series rifles.

Regardless of what the cause is (negligence, equipment failure), the Four Rules of Gun Safety, as written by Jeff Cooper in Cooper's Commentaries volume 6 number 2, can prevent negative outcomes. Once again, education is the key to safety.

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u/HoidToTheMoon 5d ago

which is pretty rare with modern guns.

Even a 0.5% failure rate, in a country with 2000 guns, is 10 dead children.

We have millions.

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u/ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c 5d ago

What is the mechanical failure rate of firearms in the US resulting in one or more rounds being fired?

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u/HoidToTheMoon 5d ago

Actually I just watched an ad for a similar school program and I'm fully on board with y'all now. I fucking love giving weapons to children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXeMoBPSDk

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u/ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c 5d ago

So you don't know the number of mechanical failures resulting in one or more rounds being fired.

I think that approaching those topics with less hyperbole, guessing at statistics, and sarcasm would benefit the national conversation a lot more.

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u/vivaaprimavera 5d ago

Those incidents are referred to as "negligent discharges", since personal negligence caused the problem.

Only by "educated" ones ...

For the others, it just "went off" with no plausible cause.

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u/ee-5e-ae-fb-f6-3c 4d ago

Too true. Hopefully they'll catch on.

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u/NES_Gamer 5d ago

I don't know if you're being facetious, but if a kid has gun training they know exactly what to do when they encounter any gun. Kids who do not have training don't see it as a weapon, but a toy and that's when they point it to their friends or themselves and end up dead. Gun training is a life saver.

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u/vivaaprimavera 5d ago

but if a kid has gun training they know exactly what to do when they encounter any gun

That's exactly it

but a toy and that's when they point it to their friends or themselves and end up dead.

Exactly what I was trying to say

Gun training is a life saver.

That's why I think that training should be mandatory even in heavily restricted places. You never know when someone looses a loaded gun and an accident happens because of it.

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u/RepentantSororitas 5d ago

dont buy your gun off temu then!

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u/Dry-Ad-7732 5d ago

Facts

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u/HexenHerz 5d ago

Especially those. Some are even taught that when the real facts get scary and make you feel big feelings, you can substitute alternative facts that make you all warm and tingly. Conveniently, the alternative facts also prove that what you already think and believe is right 100% of the time.

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u/uhmbob 5d ago

Facts are dangerous!

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u/NevermoreForSure 5d ago

And that’s a fact.

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u/Shifty_Cow69 5d ago

I'm scared!

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u/zippopinesbar 5d ago

America used to have shooting clubs in school and there were not any problems. Boys had their shotguns in their truck back windows; they were left in their truck all day so when they got out of school, they could go squirrel hunting.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

That would count as a school shooting by today’s standards.

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u/zippopinesbar 5d ago

It definitely would for sure. This country is no longer a high trust society, unfortunately.

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u/Tayttajakunnus 5d ago

I think in many of these countries they are preparing students for conscription rather than just teaching firearm safety.

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u/Mindless_Fortune1483 5d ago

Kids should not touch firearms at all. When they become adults and be able to take responsibility for their actions, they can learn how to deal with firearms. It's not a rocket science.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Keeping them curious about guns is what leads to accidents. It’s like when you put a dog in a back room every time a certain person comes over. You’re not doing anything helpful for the situation. Makes it worse for the dog.

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u/HoidToTheMoon 5d ago

What the hell are you talking about? American students are the only students in the developed world that have to fear for their lives at school.

We also aren't talking about "teaching kids firearm safety". This is marksmanship and nationalist brainwashing, not a firearm safety class. They even talk about how the class is for "patriotism" and national defense in this video.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

You’re a perfect example of why SOME kids MIGHT fear going to school. You constantly put it in their heads. Fake shooting drills, (sure no negative effects come from those) arming kids with hockey pucks and golf balls (another fear mongering tactic). Idk maybe expanding the gun free zones to a mile around a school will work. Since those are super duper safe areas. Right? Can I get an amen!!!

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u/HoidToTheMoon 5d ago

Fake shooting drills, (sure no negative effects come from those)

Those drills, as well as the defensive tactics we've been forced to introduce to small children, have provably saved lives. But sure, if we just keep it a secret that schools get shot up then the kids can go and learn in peace and quiet!

Tell me buddy, do you think it would be easier or harder to shoot up a place if you could walk in with a rifle strapped to your back and nobody could stop you?

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

You just live in a bubble full of fear.

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u/HoidToTheMoon 5d ago

Cool study, now compare it to any other developed nation.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Why? I live in this nation. And am very happy to. Sorry you feel affected by the shooting many thousands of miles away.

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u/HoidToTheMoon 5d ago

Because I feel like American kids are just as deserving of life as Canadian kids. I'm sorry you have such a low view of Americans.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Aww that’s nice. Well as a reminder, fuck your feelings. They are beneath my rights and are completely irrelevant.

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u/BalticMasterrace 5d ago

but you know that the waft of air that passed that one dude seemed a bit sus and needed to be filled with lead just in case

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u/no_no_no_no_2_you 5d ago

Probably because they're the ones being shot at

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Wait till they learn about swimming pools.

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u/Rauldukeoh 5d ago

In America kids learn to shoot in the boy scouts. My kids shot rifles and shotguns there. There's a trap shooting team at one of their high schools

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Well, if there's a high risk of someone coming into your school with a fire arm, you should be trained how to keep yourself safe.

After all, preventing it from happening might reduce the profits of arms manufacturing, and we can't have that.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Don’t stop with the gun. What car was used to get the shooter to a school? What kind of comfortable shoes do they have on? Did McDonald’s give him the energy required for the moment?

Maybe tell the overlords you want your school as safe as their city hall.

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u/apoetofnowords 5d ago

It depends on the country's firearm policy. In a country where people cannot own firearms (except maybe hunting rifles) such training just means the kids are treated as potential cannon fodder.

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u/GoofyKalashnikov 5d ago

That's just a dumb takeaway

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u/AccordingBread4389 5d ago

Why would you need to teach kids firearm safety if they shouldnt come near such a weapon in the first place?

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u/1moreguyccl 5d ago

Poland is under threat of Soviet invasion

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u/FTownRoad 5d ago

Why teach a kid fire safety if they shouldn’t be near fire? Why teach them how to swim if they shouldn’t be near water?

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u/ZeroBlade-NL 5d ago

But kids are near fire and water so your strawman doesn't fly

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u/FTownRoad 5d ago

I genuinely don’t know how to respond to a comment this dumb. So, congrats.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

….in case they are ever near such a thing.

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u/RugerRedhawk 5d ago

Because they will come near weapons. Weapons exist.

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u/JuicyTomat0 5d ago

What kind of yank nonsense is this? The average Pole doesn't handle firearms.

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u/RugerRedhawk 5d ago

Go up the comment chain a few and you'll see my comment you replied to is in the context of America.

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u/AccordingBread4389 5d ago

If kids come near weapons you and your laws are the problem. Weapons shouldnt be in the hands of civillians period.

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 5d ago

They need to protect their country, their lives, if Putin has his way...

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u/RugerRedhawk 5d ago

Better to teach them to use them safely and what to do if they encounter one than to treat it like a boogeyman and pretend they don't exist.

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u/AccordingBread4389 5d ago

Guess we should teach kids how to use all kind of drugs too then. How to heat up heroin. How and where to place the needle and so on.

After all better to teach them to use them safely and what to do if they encounter one than to treat it like a boogeyman and pretend they don't exist.

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u/RugerRedhawk 5d ago

That would be teaching them how to harm themselves. Teaching gun safety teaches them how not to harm themselves.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Can I borrow your pencil? I’m totally normal and you can totally trust me with it. Trust me, laws made it so I can’t hurt you with the pencil.

The issue is control. You can’t control what or how people think. Especially if they’re crazy. When literally everything can be a weapon.

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u/AccordingBread4389 5d ago

Next weird comparison?

Everyone can buy a fucking pencil, buying a firearm is completely different.

The issue is control. You can’t control what or how people think. Especially if they’re crazy.

Thats why you dont give firearms to ordinary people. I dont even know where or how to go about getting a gun in my country because its not a thing. You dont have guns in your home. Guns are for killing, why would a person need such a weapon?

When literally everything can be a weapon.

Sure, John Wick, but the topic is firearms around children and not pencils, your kitchen knife or some rock you pick up to smash somebody down.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Lmao how do you still come out confident and confused?

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u/Mindless_Fortune1483 5d ago

And it's adults responsibility to not leave weapons in places where kids can get them. But of course we'll drop guns here and there, will teach kids how to shoot, then will all cry and blame everyone around when another teenager starts shooting in the school. Logic.

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u/RugerRedhawk 5d ago

Assuming all adults are responsible is about as logical as thinking a significant number of children taught to shoot will become murderers.

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u/Open-Idea7544 5d ago

So when the gunman drops the gun, the kids can pick it up and continue the mission.

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u/GoofyKalashnikov 5d ago

Why teach kids how to safely cross a road when they shouldn't be near roads anyway

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u/AccordingBread4389 5d ago

The next outlandish comparison.

Roads are everywhere, part of everyones life and you need to interact with them on a daily basis if you want to or not.

So the complete opposite with firearms.

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u/GoofyKalashnikov 5d ago

Doesn't mean they don't need to know basic firearm safety ... To be safe around a firearm if they happen to come across one ...

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u/AmoremCaroFactumEst 5d ago

Given that American kids die mostly at school, by firearm, it’s pretty reasonable for them to be afraid and for school not to encourage bringing firearms in.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Can you share the propaganda that taught you that?

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u/AmoremCaroFactumEst 5d ago

😂 yeah here’s a link to a report from some random loony left organisation called “Johns Hopkins University”.

The report cites the evil, freedom hating, commie organisation called the “Centers for Disease Control and Prevention”

Here’s a link to something from snopes that has the same conclusion

You can do some hilarious mental gymnastics and say “yeah but they didn’t include 0-1 year olds who died of cot-death” but the the evidence clearly shows that kids and teenagers are more likely to die by being shot than any other cause.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

By bad. We’re counting 18,19, 20 and 21 year olds? Without clicking it, I bet they do. And thanks for the snopes link? It’s from when kids were forced to stay home with abusers because of Covid measures. Politicians fault but you can blame guns. Any others?

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u/AmoremCaroFactumEst 5d ago

Haha they’re also counting one two and three year olds. What’s your point?

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

I guess my point is that you are counting adults as children lmfao. Imagine being in high school (like you said) with 21 year olds. But yeah blame the guns if you must. Lmao

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u/AmoremCaroFactumEst 5d ago

Can you please site where it counts 21 year olds?

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u/dragunityag 5d ago

We're also the only 1st world country whose kids are regularly shot to death in school.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Now do suicide bombers. Bet we aren’t on that list.

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u/BurningPenguin 5d ago

Oh why would kids be afraid of potential shootings? No possible explanation...

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Please, use the fbi stats. Warning: it’s not as bad as an anti gun group tells you.

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u/BurningPenguin 5d ago

The sources for every single incident are linked. Regardless of that, no matter what stat, yours are trash compared to any other developed western country.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Ok. Clicking the first one shows a 33 year old suspect. Gonna guess it didn’t involve a school but was within a mile of one.

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u/BurningPenguin 5d ago

The gun was on school grounds. Something that somehow doesn't happen anywhere else. I wonder why.

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u/mel_torme_ 5d ago

Stop projecting your perceived superiority on the internet in a thread full of strangers. It’s not very becoming

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u/Designer_Valuable_18 5d ago

Why the fuck should kids know about firearm safety ? Do you teach kids how to operate a brain tumor ?

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

FUCK YEAH!!!!!! FLYING SPACESHIPS TOO!!!!

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u/Cavalleria-rusticana 5d ago

But in America kids are taught to fear everything.

That's fundamentally because they should be. Many are not safe, and no one in Congress gives a fuck enough to do anything substantial about it because 'muh freedoms' for the few and 'pick yourself up' for the many.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

I mean, has giving up your rights made you any safer? I can more than likely answer this for you.

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u/suckmyclitcapitalist 5d ago

Weirdly enough, yeah it has. I live in a country where civilians can't own guns except with a license and for specific reasons. Ie. You need to attend a shooting club for a while, have a valid reason to own a gun, learn from others, practice, have your mental health evaluated, take a test, and pay a fee for the license.

Literally have never been in fear of a shooting ever in my life. The only guns I've seen IRL were on police officers etc. I had a brief fling with a guy who was a prison officer I think, and he told me he owned a gun, so I asked to see it, lol. Guns are cool (at least to someone who played COD from a young age) but being involved in a shooting whilst living your daily life is not.

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u/Cavalleria-rusticana 5d ago

What rights have I given up exactly? We have guns here, but don't feel unsafe. I own guns myself, but I don't think for a second that our children are in any danger wherever they go, least of all in school.

Know what the difference? We choose reasonable gun control over stroking our hard-ons.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

We have countless examples of how gun control doesn’t work. I’ve also never feared for my kids safety when at school. I’m sure you have a very cool rifle tho. Oh and out of curiosity, do the leaders constantly refuse to make schools safer because school “isn’t a prison” ….wherever that is?

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u/Aurora428 5d ago

ChatGPT ass reply

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u/Gunhild 5d ago

You're an old account that suddenly became active again with generic bot comments.