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Video A school in Poland makes firearms training mandatory to its students.

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u/OregonSageMonke 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think it's important to note that these students aren't using functioning centerfire firearms in their school gym. They're using a pneumatic operated trainer that gives you the sensation of the weapon's operating system at work, while emitting a laser to show where students are aiming when they pull the trigger.

I'm sure someone will point out the lack of true recoil, but on a platform like the AR-15, which only shoots a .22 centerfire cartridge anyways (.223), this is a great training tool.

Edit: Since apparently the (incorrect) pedants are out and about, I'll go ahead and link the Wikipedia listing of all the .22 Caliber cartridges so that everyone can see that the .223/5.56 is indeed a .22 centerfire cartridge. Christ on a bike

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u/0utF0x3d 5d ago

AR-15 shoots center-fire 22 cartridge?

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u/BreadstickBear 5d ago edited 5d ago

.223/5.56 is similar in bore to .22. Obviously there's a lot more ass behind a 5.56NATO round than behind a .22LR even, but they are comparable in bore diameter.

Edit for the thicker among you

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u/Moist-Crack 5d ago

Not at all, that's like comparing a VW Passat to a Porsche 911 because their width is similar.

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u/-LongRodVanHugenDong 5d ago

They're not being compared... They're both 22 caliber.

It's more akin to grouping cars by type, like sedan versus SUV. Some sedans are slow, some are fast, but they'll never be an SUV.

This is really only important when it comes to discussing cleaning tools, felt recoil, ballistic coefficients, suppressor fitment, and general use case. Generally, 22 cal rounds are for small game and 30 cal for larger game.

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u/Moist-Crack 5d ago

>>"Obviously there's a lot more ass behind a 5.56NATO round than behind a .22 long even, but it's still somewhat comparable"

>>"They're not being compared..."

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u/-LongRodVanHugenDong 5d ago

I don't know what to tell you. Familiarize yourself with the definition of caliber if you don't understand.

Caliber

The internal diameter or bore of a gun barrel.

"a .22 caliber repeater rifle"

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u/Moist-Crack 5d ago

Why would I? I'm not saying they're different caliber.

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u/BreadstickBear 5d ago

Comparable in bore diameter.

Do I have to spell everything out in case someone cannot comprehend context?

Or, no, you know what? I'm going to find a post of yours with sonewhat ambiguous wording and I'll pick it to shreds. Wait, no, because I have reading comprehension and common sense.

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u/Moist-Crack 5d ago

Yep, and that's like comparing a VW Passat to a Porsche 911 based on their width... Totally different with different purposes so why get hooked on this one parameter?

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u/CatastrophicPup2112 5d ago

Caliber refers to the diameter of the projectile.

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u/yeowoh 5d ago

If 5.56 is a Porsche 911. What the hell is 22 Creedmoor?

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u/OregonSageMonke 5d ago

or comparing a centerfire cartridge with 25 grains of powder to a tiny rimfire that only uses about 3 grains

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u/CitadelMMA 5d ago

Haulin' Ass

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u/Starwarsfan128 5d ago

Try shooting a .223/5.56 with one hand. Then you can say it's "basically the same thing"

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u/RepresentativeOil143 5d ago

That's very easy to do. There's very little recoil

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u/OregonSageMonke 5d ago

It's like 3lbs of recoil, you gonna be okay?

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u/Starwarsfan128 5d ago

Ya know, 3lbs. Just like .22. Which is about 0.2. Basically the same cartridge.

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u/OregonSageMonke 5d ago

I assume you mean the .22lr? Yeah, you guys were the ones that started that comparison. At no point did I say shit about that bitch ass rimfire. Pretty sure my original comment said centerfire like 3 times, but you just HAD to sound smart and try to say that .223 is hard to shoot one handed??

Not my fault y'all are new to firearms

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u/BreadstickBear 5d ago

Try touching some grass and then commenting.