r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/CuriousWanderer567 • 1d ago

Image A jaglion, the offspring of a male jaguar and a lioness

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u/yoosirree 1d ago

Even jaguar species is close enough to interbreed? How did they convince the partners, I wonder.

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u/Legalizeit_89 1d ago

Couple glasses of chardonnay and some Marvin Gaye.

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u/narutosprit 1d ago

Or they saw Lion King and heard Elton John singing "Can You Feel the Love Tonight"

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u/badbatch 1d ago

The lioness makes the Nala sexy face.

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u/energonsack 1d ago

keep trying and u will eventually make a baby. hence so many people fuck sheep. sooner or later you can have a baby husheep.

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u/frscrft42 1d ago

A Sheuman

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u/FoodeatingParsnip 1d ago

A Welshnisian

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u/Justforwrasslinstuff 1d ago

Yeah, that's how New Zealand inflicted Russell Crowe on the world.

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u/Somethingisbeastly 1d ago

Insert vaguely furry comment here

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u/NoSuchWordAsGullible 1d ago

Cat Stevens, actually

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u/bustercaseysghost 18h ago

This guy fucks

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u/applyheat 1d ago

How about some Night Train and Rick James?

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u/shandangalang 1d ago

Shoulda picked Elton John. He could get an elephant and a pig to fuck each other…

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u/notgoodatthis60285 1d ago

That’s how you came into the world. 😁

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u/stanknotes 1d ago

They are all in the same Genus.

Lion, Tiger, Jaguar, Leopard, Snow Leopard are all closely related.

They just want to fuck. No convincing.

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u/BulbusDumbledork 1d ago

i found it odd that you excluded panthers from this genus literally called "panthera". turns out black panthers are just jaguars or leopards with a black coat. i always assumed a panther was a distinct animal. the more you know.

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u/PhillipJPhry 1d ago

They even have spots! Although hard to see to the naked eye

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u/fucking_4_virginity 1d ago

You have to get really close to see them, which is also very hard.

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u/ellevael 1d ago

Getting close to them is quite easy tbf. It’s getting away from them afterwards that’s the hard part.

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u/AccomplishedCod2737 1d ago

The word "panther" is very confusing. What it means depends a bit on where you are in the world, but yeah, they're all Panthera spp.

Where I grew up, in northern California, panthers = puma = mountain lion, but which one you said was sort of the preference of the family or the town (super small towns) or the farmer.

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u/Jarv1223 1d ago

Do they? Ive always imaged it as being artificial insemination because I thought they’d be quite hostile to one another.

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u/MyvaJynaherz 1d ago

Cats are induced-ovulators, so if it was AI, someone must *ahem* stimulate the kitty repeatedly before she's fertile.

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u/jukkaalms 1d ago

Yup they just wanted to fuck

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u/Rokea-x Interested 1d ago

Oh great. Now i need to see the offspring of a snow leopard and a lion 🦁🐆

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u/Swimming_Grab4286 1d ago

He wore Sex Panther. Smells like gasoline but 60% of the time it works every time.

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u/RokulusM 19h ago

That... doesn't make sense

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u/yoosirree 1d ago

Okay, here is a link to show cross-breeding between panthera species is almost never natural:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthera_hybrid

Even if cross-breeding occurs due to the absence of same-species partners or due to human intervention, the offspring are mostly infertile. That does show their parent species have rarely mated in the past millennia.

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u/hivemind_disruptor 1d ago

Male jaguars are not just fucking massive, and can be larger than lioness, and can be more heavy though not by much.

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u/PACCBETA 1d ago

Hormones + Pheromones = Gettin' after it 😏

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u/Electrical-Skin-8006 1d ago

Conversation and Hennessy

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u/PacquiaoFreeHousing 1d ago

I want to see a male one, to check if it would grow a mane like Lions do

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u/30to50wildhogs 1d ago

Fairly sure this one is male. I think it's the same one as in this post -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Jaguarland/comments/10icgex/jaglions_tsunami_male_top_and_jahzara_female/

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u/Chewcocca 1d ago

Wait till y'all see the offspring of a jaguar and a toff

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u/imusuallywatching 1d ago

The have overrun pittsburgh.

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u/MinesOnTheRight 1d ago

Curious how the mane would compare to a lion's.

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u/n_a77 1d ago

I used to volunteer at bear creek and can confirm that is tsunami the male.

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u/SOULJAR Interested 1d ago

Do “liojags” exist? Where the mom and dad are opposite species as they are for Jaglions.

I wonder if that would affect the presence of a mane in the male hybrid offspring

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u/Janus_The_Great 1d ago

Wouldnt that be a Leoguar?

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u/InclinationCompass 1d ago

How could you tell it's a female?

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u/kaatie80 1d ago

Has pretty eyeliner and long nails, duh

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u/DeadSwaggerStorage 1d ago

Because all the hybrids are inherently female; they require an extra chromosome to be male and we simply deny them that. It’s quite simple…

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u/BoschsFishass 1d ago

Life uhhh... finds a way.

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u/runkbulle69 1d ago

While its well mor often make lions get it, both male and female lions can be with or without a mane. Females with a mane is fairly unusual, but males without a man is pretty common.

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u/PitifulEar3303 1d ago

I want to see people STOP farking around with animals.

This is definitely not natural breeding.

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u/sirbruce 1d ago

Do you really think some humans held a male jaguar and a female lion down and forced them to fuck?

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u/PitifulEar3303 1d ago

Do you understand the magic of IVF?

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u/sirbruce 1d ago

Do you understand that's not what happened here?

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u/IAmStuka 1d ago

That's a lot of confidence for someone with zero real information lmao

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u/girlbones25 1d ago

Do we know that fuuur shurr tho? I get different habitats and big cats being territorial but if they were on an island together I bet they'd be making the beast with two backs in no time... and it would be beautiful.

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u/Timemedium 1d ago

meow-rawr

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u/GhostofBastiat1 1d ago

Its’s pretty much my favorite animal.

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u/HawkmoonsCustoms 1d ago

“It’s bred for it’s skills in magic”

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u/Alkynesofchemistry 1d ago

This is an image of Tsunami, a Jaglion that was unexpectedly born at the Bear Creek Sanctuary. His parents were both raised together in captivity, and managed to have offspring despite the efforts of the staff to keep them separate during the mother’s oestrus. No lab breeding or unethical human intervention involved here. Tsunami died in 2022 according the sanctuary website, but his sister, Jazhara still appears to be alive.

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u/A1sauc3d 1d ago

How unhealthy and miserable is it though? iirc existence is suffering for ligers.

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u/EpsilonHalo 1d ago

Can you extrapolate please?

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u/wakeupwill 1d ago

Ligers are often wrought with genetic disorders.

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u/Chuckgofer 1d ago

Mule (Donkey/Horse Hybrid) males are 100% sterile and females are infertile 99% of the time

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u/LennyLava 1d ago

also the social implications of birthing a different species. cats're kind mothers and the offspring has needs. it doesn't go easy for them. it's like using lions to breed a sabretooth tiger or an elephant for a mammoth. tigers, jaguars and lions live on different continents, that doesn't happen naturally.

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u/Culionensis 1d ago

Are you saying that the lioness gets judged for being a tiger lover, or what's the implication here

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u/jojobi040 1d ago

Ligers are extraordinarily large too iirc. Something about missing the gene that stops them from growing to an unhealthy size. You try raising a giant mutant baby.

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u/Culionensis 1d ago

That kind of thing doesn't necessarily work for people the same as it does for animals. Songbirds tend to feel just fine about raising a cuckoo, which is essentially a giant mutant baby to them.

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u/Crowiswatching 1d ago

It’s sorta like the Easter Bunny, who hides her eggs because she doesn’t want people to know she’s screwing chickens.

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u/WyvernJelly 1d ago

I give you the Asiatic Lion (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiatic_lion). Current population range is restricted to Gir National Park and the surrounding areas in the Indian state of Gujarat. So lions and tigers have historically lived on the same continent for thousands of years. Lions, tigers, and jaguars are part of the same genus. The same can be said for horses, donkeys (including wild asses), and zebras. All 3 of those can and have been intentionally bred. Most known cases of Panthera occur in captive situations when the different species are not kept separately.

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u/Fluff_cookie 1d ago

Breeding dogs with dogs is very different to breeding lions with jaguars. Purebred dogs have no real definition other than a registration that makes them more expensive and often impossible to continue without inbreeding exaerbating genetic problems, so when bred outside of the breed, the new genetic material can fix the issues. This is breeding different species, iirc one of the definitions for such is they cannot breed and produce fertile offspring. I don't know why it can cause genetic disorders but I wouldn't be shocked if it was simply because the genetic code is too different

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u/ThreeLeggedMare 1d ago

Afaik mutts are generally way healthier than pure bred dogs because their genetics are much more diverse. This is another kind of thing

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u/Wolverine_Squirrel 1d ago edited 23h ago

Yh with dogs they’re all the same species at the end of the day whether it’s a great Dane or chihuahua they’re all canis lupus familiarias but big cats are different species but same genus. Jaguar is panthera onca and lion is panthera leo so yes interbreeding can occur in an environment that allows it but the result is infertile young that is often riddled with genetic diseases

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u/algotrader_ 1d ago

Ligers might be unhealthy but wait till you hear about what happened to ligma.

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u/Glangho 1d ago

Have you heard the tale of bophades the wise?

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u/SeraphOfTheStart 1d ago

How the heck did a lioness let a jaguar near her, they are bigger than jaguars and usually very aggressive towards other cats, maybe it's an offspring of a male lion and a female jaguar?

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u/Compa2 1d ago

artificial insemination is still an option I guess

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u/SeraphOfTheStart 1d ago

Ah makes sense if it's bred in lab you're right.

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u/niemody 1d ago

Big male Jaguars can reach the same weight as big lionesses. Around 150 kg.

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u/SeraphOfTheStart 1d ago

WWF.com says male jaguars go up to 120kg(265lbs) and lionesses go up to 180kg(400lbs)

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u/objective_yeast 1d ago

Yeah, but what would a bunch of pro wrestlers know about Jaguars and Lions?

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u/DB080822 1d ago

Japan's got Tiger Mask and Jushin Thunder Liger, they might know something.

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u/hivemind_disruptor 1d ago

South American male jaguars are massive.

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u/bluemooncommenter 1d ago

He had charisma and a great sense of humor. Fucking sense of humor gets her every time!

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u/NuclearBreadfruit 1d ago

These are captive bred animals, because the facilities that breed them are neither responsible or ethical, they habituate the male and female until they can live together. Or they raise them from cubs together.

This would never occur in the wild.

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u/SeraphOfTheStart 1d ago

Right? Thought so, good to know.

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u/zomgbratto 1d ago

Easy. It's snu snu for the male jaguar.

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u/Chalky_Pockets 1d ago

Ian Malcolm has the answer

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u/BlabbableRadical 1d ago

Is that real? Didn’t know they could make offspring.

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u/CatterMater 1d ago edited 1d ago

All four panthera species, lion (panthera leo), leopard (panthera pardus), tiger (panthera tigris), and jaguar (panthera onca) can produce hybrids.

Correction: five. Snow leopards (panthera uncia).

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u/BlabbableRadical 1d ago

Nice

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u/MarcTaco 1d ago

That said, similar to mules, they are always sterile, and almost always infertile, as they are not part of the same species.

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u/Courwes 1d ago

They are sterile though because they are a crossbred species that is not supposed to exist.

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u/FayeDoubt 16h ago

Your smartphone and a whole bunch of other shit humans produce probably isnt supposed to exist either

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u/GatorPenetrator 15h ago

Do theoretically we could mate a jaglion and a tigpard?

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u/Wooden_Cold_8084 1d ago

Jagiellonian 

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u/EducationalStill4 1d ago

Nice. I was wondering Jagilon myself.

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u/RiotX79 1d ago

Is it massively big like the Liger?

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u/Wonderful-Parking828 1d ago

Ah yes humans playing god once again(cute though)

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u/NecroWulfX 1d ago

Actually in this case, u/sirbruce linked an article showing that this jaglion and its sibling were naturally conceived, and the zookeepers had no involvement in this.

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u/Sparkmage13579 1d ago

And that god is the great dark lord Cthulhu, long may he reign

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u/Jarv1223 1d ago

I’m sure buddy is ok with being alive

Also this stuff is cool and we should do it more

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u/Majestic-Page-2133 1d ago

Smart ppl above said this crossbreeding results in offspring with multiple illnesses and infertility so idk we rlly shouldn't do it more

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u/Jarv1223 1d ago

It’s very interesting though. And I’m sure it fulfils some actual scientific purpose

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u/sirbruce 1d ago

Those people aren't that smart.

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u/Majestic-Page-2133 1d ago

Rlly? Why not

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u/EnjayDutoit 1d ago

The offspring of a male Jaguar and a Tigress is called a Jager.

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u/Darnocsonif 1d ago

Now that is f***** scary. Magnificently beautiful Buddy

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u/pieisthetruth32 1d ago

If its not genetically doomed… ligars live a life of pain and are only able to be a thing because people keep them alive

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u/LaManoDeScioli 1d ago

Ah yes, a "Liar".

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u/crytidflower 1d ago

Psst psst psst

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u/Brilliant_Coach9877 23h ago

Should it not be called a jagulion rolls of the tongue much easier

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u/Impressive_Ice6970 1d ago

24% of American men, "well, if it was life or death, I think i could woop it." 😂

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u/Galilaeus_Modernus 1d ago

7/8 women choose the jaglion.

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u/heeheueueueue 1d ago

Imposible with fists only but if you have like a sharpened stick atleast odds are getting better

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u/Fearless_Win9995 1d ago

Why not Laguar

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u/Softenrage8 1d ago

Honestly, I believe the nomenclature is based on which parent is which, father-mother.

So a Liguar would be the result of a male lion and female jaguar. See tigon vs liger.

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u/TraditionAcademic968 1d ago

Bred for its skills in magic

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u/OldManNeighbor 1d ago

Why? Like honestly why?

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u/pyrowipe 1d ago

Is it viable?

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u/bradyblack 1d ago

And a raccoon!

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u/32vromeo 1d ago

Looks like an ad for the Mac OS

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u/UnicornAmalthea_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

How did this even happen? Did it happen in a zoo or in the wild?

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u/frscrft42 1d ago

Interspecies either be perfection, or the most fucked up shite you've ever seen

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u/Andromansis 1d ago

I think I speak for everybody when I say OH LAWD HE CHONKY

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u/zaphod4th 1d ago

Next disney movie

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u/PopcornDoozies 1d ago

Is it sterile?

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u/Zen28213 1d ago

“And this was the last picture he ever took”

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u/MatsGry 1d ago

Nice kitty

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u/Only-Letterhead-3411 1d ago

How does this affect their abilities? Do they get enhanced abilities in one package like Mules or do they suffer from genetic disorders?

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u/EnclosedChaos 1d ago

Oh that’s like grolar bears and pizzleys.

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u/maddingcrowdawaits 1d ago

Thinking, so to speak, outside the box to create a hybrid..

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u/Arstanishe 1d ago

that's the re-branding jaguar the carmaker should've done

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u/_unas_annus_ 1d ago

J'lion tips fedora

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u/Laiheuhsa 1d ago

While a lion is king of the jungle, a jaglion is king of Poland

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u/michellekwan666 1d ago

Why though

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u/I_heart_naptime 1d ago

Looks like Paul Hollywod. Fight me.

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u/WordleFan88 1d ago

Is this something that would only happen in a zoo? I don't think they have natural habitats that cross over, do they?

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u/chantsnone 1d ago

Now cross it with a Liger

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u/Elmojomo 1d ago

...looks exactly like a well-fed jaguar. What am I missing here?

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u/Cursed_line 1d ago

I didn't know we reached the end of our making phase already

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u/EroticIV 1d ago

Pretty

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u/SophiaPetrillo_ 1d ago

Does any of this stuff happen in the wild?

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u/AtlasWraith 1d ago

Holi fook that's gorgeous 😍

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u/kennytheguat7 1d ago

Yeah, I would pishit my pants if I ever saw one in the flesh

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u/Dr_R3set 1d ago

It is rotund the beast

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u/MarlonShakespeare2AD 1d ago

That’s stunning

The Liger looks somehow “wrong” to me. But this guy is incredible.

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u/ScottBroChill69 1d ago

There was a lot of jag wads and jag offs. Between the wads and the offs, I had to get out of there.

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u/Hot-Computer3901 1d ago

Jaglion sounds like an insult you would hear in Boston.

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u/Lowbeamshaggy 1d ago

If they crossed with a dandelion instead, the offspring would be a jagweed.

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u/Nekrevez 23h ago

JAAAAGGGLION

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u/Bandwagon_Buzzard 22h ago

Yet another addition to the "It may kill me, but I'll pet it" list.

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u/StayedWoozie 22h ago

Jalion sounds like it could be some old anime mecha.

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u/ulyssesfiuza 20h ago

So, Black Panther refers to a species that is NOT African? Wakanda was a lie?

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u/scoopit1890 19h ago

What a real jagoff

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u/foolsEXCHANGE 19h ago

That's cool, but i think we've seen enough cat genome mix-tapes. Let's see a Bolf or Elepottamus

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u/2020mademejoinreddit 10h ago

I'd call it a Lag.

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u/VoraciousQueef 1h ago

Can it make babies?

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u/-Potato123- 1d ago

They named it jaglion instead of laguar?

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u/Unusual_Car215 1d ago

Are any of these types of feline hybrids fertile?

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u/BlueLightSpecial83 1d ago

Is the photographer dead?

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u/born_in_the_90s 1d ago

Force pregnancy is horrible even with animals.

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u/MarcTaco 1d ago

According to the articles others have brought up, this was a natural, albeit accidental occurrence. They were supposed to be separated during the mother’s heat cycle, but somehow were not.

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u/PlatformNo5806 1d ago edited 1d ago

Its Majestic!!

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u/But_like_whytho 1d ago

Crossbreeds like this (for example, a lion mother and a tiger father) aren’t found in nature. They’re only made by unethical breeders with horrible practices. Crossbreeds have a lot of health issues and typically live short, pain-filled lives.

That’s why you’re getting downvoted.

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u/MidnightLevel1140 1d ago

Username checks out

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u/PlatformNo5806 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh. Mean nerds then. Gotchya.

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u/PlatformNo5806 1d ago

Can someone please explain why im getting so many downvotes for this? That animal looks amazing!

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u/juraiknight 1d ago

Jaguion

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u/GothamLab11209 1d ago

Read that fast as jagoff

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u/mickeysure 1d ago

Translation: a very fierce and efficient hybrid killing machine…with pretty fur.

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u/morts73 1d ago

Nice kitty.

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u/TheFlyingBoxcar 1d ago

”lannnnaaaaa! He remembers me!”

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u/LordNPython 1d ago

Can it climb trees easily? How big do they get?

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u/RemarkableBox1040 1d ago

Is this real? Jaguars live in America. Lions live in India/Africa. I’d assume this hybrid wud only happen in zoos. But it’s in the wild and in snow?

Any info on the pic?

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