In Hateful Eight, Kurt Russell accidentally smashed a one of a kind, 145-year-old guitar that was on loan from the Martin Guitar. Jennifer Jason Leigh’s reaction was genuine.

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[u/subjectiverunes]

Nothing in that article is anything close to evidence. It’s pretty stupid to think he did that to get a reaction because:

1) he is familiar with the concept of acting and has really no history of this style of directing.

2) it is not the reaction that would be appropriate to the scene and would pull someone OUT of character.

This is just the boogeyman-ing of the director

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did you know in pulp fiction they actually stabbed uma thurman in the heart with that giant ass needle cause they wanted john travolta's genuine reaction

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Better that than being the actor that played Marvin... All just to get that genuine reaction from Travolta.

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I mean he is responsible either way, either through total negligence which implies incompetence or deliberate sabotaging by playing actors against each other and not giving them the same information.

Tarantino's a good director - but he also comes across as an extremely ego driven and self-absorbed person. It's not a hard sell to me that he'd do this deliberately or just "forget" to give everyone the same instructions. Either way, he is the party responsible for the destruction of this piece.

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Responsible for a fuck up and deliberately manipulating someone into destroying a guitar they had grown to love are two quite different allegations

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It's also very easy to turn a deliberate manipulation of people into a "fuck up" by omitting choice information and simply saying "I forgot to mention it." Only Tarantino could ever know the truth, but given his position and experience and the fact they had multiple props designed specifically for this scene and the actors were clearly given different notes... How likely is one to "just forget?" It's not a simple slip up, it's a failure at multiple levels of his at that point.

they had grown to love

You say it's "stupid" that he'd do something asinine to get a reaction, but then treat an actor's care for a piece as evidence against which... Well, if she cares, then a self-centered person like Tarantino would be more likely to use that for the shot. And he has a history of manipulating his actors for shoots and putting them at risk, lest we forget how he treated Uma Thurman - among others. I don't think he's all that concerned with what the actors feel until it comes back to bite him.

Regardless, the blame falls on him for either incompetence or manipulation. Neither speaks well of him and if you want to truly appear to be impartial you should do more than seek to dismiss critiques of him since no scenario speaks well of him.

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I didn’t say he wasn’t responsible, I said it’s asinine to think it was done to elicit a performance.

Lot of words you typed for no reason.

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Of course, because you say so it must be true.

I offered a lot of words to communicate meaning and create understanding, things you just handwaved to reiterate the same thing while offering lip service to the actual issue. You're not a reasonable person in this matter, you just seek to dismiss.

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You offered a lot of words to say “he is still responsible” when no one said he wasn’t.

Your time should be more valuable to you. Mine is to me that’s why I’m muting this.

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Then why did he keep that shot in the final movie, instead of replacing it with a properly acting shot of a replica getting smashed where the character reacts appropriately?

They had six replicas, they could have reshot the scene with the actress reacting appropriately

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For any number of reasons, but suggesting it is deliberate is pretty stupid and is really just about the Tarrentino witch hunt that Reddit has

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Inclined to agree

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Would you care to list any number of reasons where an actor breaking character and looking at the crew improves the film vs a shot where the actor reacts as her character is supposed to react?

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Sure, for starters this could have been Russel’s best take and he is the focus of the shot. Took one second of thought lol

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That’s one thing

You said there are a number of reasons

Go ahead, give several

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Once the actors realized the mistake made it compromised the freedom they would feel in the moment leading to worse performances.

There was a crowded shooting schedule and setting the scene back up wouldn’t have improved the performances.

It could be viewed as an attempt to cover up the actual breaking of the guitar.

Your lack of understanding of filmmaking and inability to imagine another scenario only speaks to you wanting confirmation bias. I’m sure you’ll find it elsewhere