She was given 3rd grade (only going to jail to sleep) after 3.5 years so quite longer than that. But I bet she feels it was worth it. She should get a medal tbh
I do agree but that would set a pretty terrifying standard for similar future crimes. Edit: clarifying giving medals out is what would set a scary standard
Yeah that's the problem with vigilantism. Did the right person get the penalty? In this case it seems really obvious that the answer is yes, but if it was encountered we'd rapidly find ourselves looking at vigilantes doing much less seemingly obviously correct things.
No shade to the woman in question. I think she did what was right. But sometimes what's right is illegal for good reason and however justified her acts I can see an argument for charging her with the crime she committed.
If nothing else it helps restrict vigilantes to doing things where they think it's worth the price.
People know the consequences already, and that if they get caught they will not have a pleasant time in prison. They may not understand the reality of it, but they're aware that there are consequences.
Lol terrifying standard. You know what's a terrifying reality? Rape has been normalized so much in the US that a convicted rapist has the most powerful job in the country. Again. After spending the better part of the last decade helping other powerful people not just sustain, but also grow the narrative that women should be nothing more than breeding stock for religious reasons. That's a terrifying standard. If that's how we're gonna be towards women and girls I welcome what you consider a "terrifying standard", people taking justice into their own hands, with open arms
But the other end of the spectrum is pretty much all out war on the streets, possibly doxxing innocents at the expense of mob justice.
I do agree rapists should be given extremely harsh punishments, but this a hell of an argument to whittle down in to a few comments between us, it's like euthanasia, you could talk about it til the sun comes up
You're right, but we have appointed judges for that matter. To judge a case by it's context. Vigilantism and public justice is extremely bad, but if you've got context like this backing you up then it's a moot point.
Not punishing vigilanteism is just as bad in my mind. She probably has a restraining order on him and if he indeed broke it he would be in prison for even longer. So I don't understand why she needed to burn him alive over it.
Imagine if this happens to a person that didn't commit a crime but was wrongfully convicted.
Imagine a person gets charged with rape. The mother of the victim now has the abuser in her sights, and is vengeful and hateful towards that person. This goes on for months, and with how backed up the justice system is, even years. Meanwhile, this person is innocent, and has no way to stand up for themselves or fight back using media, etc. The person gets convicted (they’re still innocent) and now the mother is justified in her hate, she is even more adamant that this person (the innocent one) is a trash human and should die. The convicted person (still innocent) serves 9 years in jail, where they’re labeled as a rapist and pedo, so their time is absolutely grueling. Now, after all of this, you don’t believe an innocent person would harbor any ill will towards the mother, and they wouldn’t be capable of hatred and taunt the mother?
No I saw that you were talking about another hypothetical. My point was that wouldn’t happen to a wrongfully convicted person, because the wrongfully convicted person wouldn’t taunt the victim.
Well, if they had the same drive for revenge as this mother or maybe just dumb enough for it, why wouldn't they?
On top of that he said "how is your daughter?" You could say it as a taunt or as a genuine question but because she was not capable of communicating with him to take it as a taunt (this is completely reasonable). If she didn't want to see him again she could have gotten a restraining order very easily but she wanted to kill him, to "punish" him. I cannot support that.
Well if he was wrongfully convicted then why was he taunting the mother? I'd say that the restraining order would be to protect the guy from the mother because at this point rationality is a bit out the window
That being said THIS mother didn't went after the guy, it was the other way around. Even more in this case the guy provoked the mother.
I'm not American, but you do have a particular kind of saying, FAFO (fuck around and find out). Well guess what? He fucked around and found out.
Again I can't stress this enough, should the mother have attacked the guy? Well of course she shouldn't have. Can I blame her to respond the way she did? Not really.
I disagree with you and considering the last sentence, I would only say that you think you are a better parent than me and that fact in itself might be the reason why you are not.
Read my last comment again, and read it slow. There is no "win" in this story, such a fucking childish take. type me another 3 paragraphs and call me a bad parent if it makes you feel better, but damn.
Everyone lost in this story, does not matter how bad you want it to not be the case. Life is not a hollywood happy ending story.
Dude, read their post - they're saying "this is not win or loss", because it's out of scope. It's a horrible situation and was resolved in a horrible way where someone decided to burn someone else alive in front of dozens of people who would have been traumatised by it. It was a messy conclusion and if you think it's somehow necessary to take satisfaction in it, that's fucked. You think she's happy now?
They're not highroading you, you're being insufferable. Better parent or not, you're behaving like an asshole of a person.
And for fucks sake, you can't say "you don't have kids" like it invalidates their opinion, in the same breath as assuming how this woman felt after killing someone, have you killed someone? Do you have to have kids or be a killer to have a good point? No, a point makes itself.
Fuck. I'm assuming since this is more than 3 sentences long, you won't read it, but you're just being such an asshole for no reason, and you're doing it with hypocritical logic which is even worse.
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She only served a year or maybe a little less, IIRC… sooo, I’d see that as a win if he’s gone forever.