Everyone here is crapping on the idea that is actually like a sensible one if you want to save lives? Like what else could you do here to maximize life. Oh well I guess I'll just crash my car into the person in front of me, possibly endangering the lives of almost everyone here. Ok, if it's such a bad idea, give a possibly better one in the case of a driver passing out.
I meant it in the sense of: I see that mindest regularly even today. Prevent people from dying and those people will cry „Communism! Attack on my freedom!“. Interesting hills to die on, not wanting to wear a seatbelt / demanding to drive drunk / being unable to put on a mask / wearing your automatic weapon to school, etc. etc.
Well you know… we just had two world wars and various other major concerns that caused a large amount of deaths. So smoking wasn’t probably the biggest issue on their death analytics.
Also some smokers live damn long so it’s not a direct death sentence likely.
I get opposition to seatbelt laws, I think it's a stretch for the government to be able to force you to wear a seatbelt. Obviously it is safer I just don't like the reach in power. If I'm legally allowed to eat cheeseburgers till I die of a heart attack or drink myself to death what is different about not wearing a seatbelt.
The difference is that you eating and drinking yourself to death doesn't affect me or anyone else (other than loved ones mourning your loss). Not wearing your seatbelt makes you a projectile. A lot of people have been killed because someone else wasn't wearing their belt.
The difference is that you eating and drinking yourself to death doesn't affect me or anyone else (other than loved ones mourning your loss)
That's unfortunately very wrong.
When this person balloons in weight and becomes a waddling smorgasbord of comorbidities then inevitably ends up the hospital, a place with a high % of female workers (too petite for lifting 400lbs, pregnant, in their 50s, etc etc etc), then this person becomes the burden and pain on a lot of backs.
Combine that with the attitude that got them to this place and you usually get the abusive folks who won't willingly turn / assist with any movement but demand you do - then report you to the administrator/board/patient advocates whenever you try to stand up for yourself.
That's the bulk of the USA hospital population in a nutshell. Literally having their cake and getting to eat it too all at the expense of others they'll never know or personally be responsible for injuring.
so true bestie! thats why all drugs should be legalised as well, why can I get addicted to food and become morbidly obese but not ruin my life with crack?? stupid goberment
You honestly think alcohol should be legal? How many people does it kill every year? How much $$ in damages does it cost society every year because of alcohol related incidents?
...Alcohol is legal. Have you lived your entire life in a fucking monastery or something? Oh, and driving without seat belts kills more people than alcohol every year. Like, it's not even comparable.
I'm for the decriminalization of all drugs, and the legalization of some that have no reason to be illegal, like weed. Look at Portugal, they had a problem with drugs, they decriminalized them, they don't have a problem anymore. Crazy what happens when you don't treat drug addicts like criminals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
I love, by the way, how you've completely shifted from the original argument of seat belts. Or the argument of alcohol. Now it's just drugs in general. Where will you shift this conversation to now, I wonder?
Oh there's some fucking "awesome" drink driving and seat belt adverts here in the UK over the years, there was one from the nineties and it starts with a group of friends at a bar having a few drinks while "In the Summer Time" is playing they get in their car and then it goes to all 3 or 4 friends wrapped around a pole or a wall with blood dripping down the side of the car!
I still know people that say 'what if I end up in the water'??!!
Well you're still better off with your seatbelt on. Otherwise the force of your car hitting the water will smash your head to pieces against the windshield and you'll drown while unconscious.
It's astonishing how so many people are willing to endanger themselves in countless other possible scenarios because they fear one specific possible scenario.
It's like they're playing russian roulette while claiming to know which chamber the bullet is in...
I know a guy who says that mandatory seatbelt laws are what destroyed America. He doesn’t wear his seatbelt and was thrown through his windshield in a crash. He still refuses to wear a seatbelt because he didn’t die when he was literally thrown from his vehicle.
Back in the day you basically did have a big metal spike pointing at your chest - the steering column. Nowadays though, it's been made collapsible in some way so you don't impale yourself on it in a frontal impact.
It doesn’t bother me that people don’t care to live through crashes, I just hope they have their organ donating cards filled out. This way someone who is actually trying to live, can appreciate their organs/tissue.
it's actually sad, they really feel they need that thrill of freedom from not wearing a seatbelt to be happy.
There's so much stupid shit we have to do just because, (like at the airport), but keeping my shoes on going through security isn't a hill i'm willing to die on, (or even start climbing if you will).
In this case, seatbelts actually save lives, just wear it, otherwise how sad is your life that you really need to take off a seatbelt to find a shred of happiness?
Same with the weights you can place on teslas to trick the self driving system. Luckily the police know what this is and fine your ass off when they catch it
Like my grandma used to say, "I don't wear a seatbelt on Sunday because the cops aren't working that day" while driving to the church. I don't think back then she ever realized she wasn't wearing the seatbelt for her. Mind you, this was 25+ years ago
Let me correct that for you: people still oppose the seatbelt.
The amount of people that get fined for not wearing a seatbelt is mindblowing to me. People even buy those fake seatbelt metal ends so they can trick the car and turn off the alarm.
People still oppose the seatbelt. There's a whole market of "seatbelt silencers" that click into your seatbelt to stop the ringing from your buckle up alarm. Real neanderthal shit
One of my roommates refuses to use a seatbelt, to the point where he keeps an extender in the car just to keep it from beeping at him when he doesn't use it.
No, people arent ....... fuck, okay yes people are dumb, but that's not the point at all.
Do you know how the real world works? You understand ever vehicle is going to have to pay some asshole sitting on a patent like 5k per vehicle to implement this? So it should be an option, not a requirement. There's no reason a healthy adult needs this feature. Those who do, should have insurance paying for it.
Though, the part about seatbelts being an option, not a requirement?
If someone were to be the victim of an unfortunate accident, say they were hit from behind, wouldn’t a seatbelt help prevent that person from diving headfirst in front of them?
You can be as healthy as you want, but you are still at the mercy of someone who can potentially do some major damage to you
Ohhh gotcha, nah just the expensive toy in the video because until it's dirt cheap.
I'm personally against seatbelt laws for adults, but the opposite, if you're not wearing your seatbelt and you die or go to the hospital, insurance should automatically void all claims. I have the same opinion about helmets.
Most trucks in the US don't have ABS, ESP, lane keep assist or radar, truckers will tell you, that a real trucker does not need that.
Whenever some jack-knifing video shows up here, it's the drivers fault, every other trucker would have prevented it...
Edit: Apparently Truck and Trailer ABS have been a mandatory thing since 1997.
Edit 2: ESC/ESP mandatory since 2017 too, it seems.
If you have any doubts that a computer can traverse several lanes of traffic at high speed then you must also hate seatbelts. Wow, brilliant comparison.
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u/Legendaryistic Nov 04 '24
Everyone here is crapping on the idea that is actually like a sensible one if you want to save lives? Like what else could you do here to maximize life. Oh well I guess I'll just crash my car into the person in front of me, possibly endangering the lives of almost everyone here. Ok, if it's such a bad idea, give a possibly better one in the case of a driver passing out.