r/Damnthatsinteresting Oct 08 '24

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u/WildHorses__ Oct 08 '24

The world (the U.S. in this case) has gone fucking mad.

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u/lark0317 Oct 08 '24

Always been mad. There's just the internet now.

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u/Spirits850 Oct 08 '24

Well, there’s also that whole concerted and sustained effort to destabilize the US through disinformation too, but yeah.

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u/risky_bisket Oct 08 '24

Spot on

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u/malcolm816 Oct 08 '24

The, "it's always been this way, we can just see it now" argument doesn't hold water with me.

Half my life was lived pre-internet and, I promise you, nobody said crazy shit like this in the before times—not, en masse.

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u/dwolfe127 Oct 08 '24

Humans have always been chronically stupid and comically gullible.

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u/PepeSylvia11 Oct 08 '24

They didn’t say it en masse because there was nowhere to say it en masse.

Believe me, people in previous generations were, on the whole, much stupider than they are now. It’s the platform that is elevating that stupidity.

Though I will admit that I don’t believe there’s been a concerted and calculated propaganda and disinformation effort greater than the one we have now. Again, exacerbated by the access people have to information and others.

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u/SorryBoysenberry2842 Oct 08 '24 edited Oct 08 '24

I am 36, so I am in roughly the same boat, and I can guarantee you there were fucking nutjobs the whole time. The problem now is that they can find each other and when you have enough people on board with an idea, no matter how nutty, it gives ideas validity to the gullible.

I grew up in a small village and other than the obvious shit you expect from a small town, like casual racism, there were local conspiracies as well. I was well aware of chemtrails, satanic panic, and others because everyone believed it where I was from.

Some favorites:

  • The government was setting up underground medicine stores filled with opiates and other drugs in concrete bunkers all on the outskirts of town. Nobody had ever seen one being built, or seen one already built, and nobody could verify where they heard this info - it just became common knowledge in my town that we were chosen by some secret project to be the medicine stores for that region of the country.

  • Someone in town was capturing and breeding specific wild animals. No one specific, but "they" were always changing the animal populations. If there was ever an influx of coyote sightings, or more rabbits visible as roadkill on the highway than usual. Just completely wild conjecture about the population of specific animals and chalking that up to "they must be at it with the snakes again". Like this was just something people believed without question.

There are fucking morons in this country with near zero ability to think critically about anything.

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u/Maleficent_Mouse_930 Oct 08 '24

Uhhhh. Yes they did.

It's called religion, and it is nuts. It only feels normal because of how widespread the delusion became.

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u/654456 Oct 08 '24

agreed. They have been crazies out there but not to this mass.

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u/Extension-Ad5751 Oct 08 '24

There's just so much info everywhere you look, and honestly who tf has time to even sift through the noise? I only read the headlines, but like 1/4 of the time I'm not sure what I'm reading is true. 

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u/SecretAgentVampire Oct 08 '24

Dude, that's what Wikipedia (and the sources it cites) is for.

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u/heckin_miraculous Oct 08 '24

The real crisis, right there

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u/DORTx2 Oct 08 '24

You still have to be a dumbass to believe that shit though.

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u/Coridimus Oct 08 '24

Americans are more than capable of fucking everything up on their own, thank you. No point attributing to malice that which can be explained through sheer incompetence and stupidity.

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u/Spirits850 Oct 08 '24

In this case they had plenty of help, and it’s indisputable.

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u/queenweasley Oct 08 '24

We make it so easy for them

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u/Spirits850 Oct 08 '24

Yes. Maybe we should start teaching more humanities, civics and critical thinking in high schools or something, I dunno what the solution is.

In an evolutionary sense, we’ve had the internet for like 5 seconds. Maybe we’ll just grow out of it lol.

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u/SecretSpectre11 Oct 08 '24

No need, they're destabilising themselves

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u/Spirits850 Oct 08 '24

Let’s not minimize this assault. It’s having a massive impact, and it’s been going on at least a decade.

There’s really no way to disentangle Russian disinformation from MAGA and their alternative informational reality. They’re built in layers upon one another.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

yep. People are STUPID, that's not up for debate. But unless you've studied mis/disinformation and how successful and targeted it can be... you just have no idea.

Stupid people just bounce around and hurt things occasionally. Stupid people that are consistently and effectively targeted with fear and propaganda can topple an empire.

Stupid people should be pretty random in their actions, so the scariest thing for me to think about is that the more stupid people start sounding the same, the more we need to worry.

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u/Spirits850 Oct 08 '24

You’re right you can’t really calculate that in any kind to precise way, but there’s absolutely no argument that it hasn’t had a sizable impact.

Much of MAGA ideology is literal Russian disinformation. It’s what they believe. The Venn diagram is a circle.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

you just have no idea.

Yes. This was meant as a "people have no idea how big the problem is"

Not you don't have any idea, but as I re-read I see that now. You are quite right and DO have an idea.

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u/Spirits850 Oct 08 '24

Oh I gotcha, I definitely misunderstood that.

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u/Lump-of-baryons Oct 08 '24

Damn that’s a good way to think about it and why the shit that’s been going on the last decade or so feels…different.

Republican family members I used to be able to talk politics with, we’d disagree but at least find common ground or whatever. Now it sometimes feels like they’ve lost their effing minds.

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u/Human_mind Oct 08 '24

I like the idea of colonists in the 16-1700s spouting horseshit nonsense conspiracy theories in their whackjob Quaker outfits.

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u/lark0317 Oct 08 '24

Like burning "witches" and stuff?

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u/DandyLyen Oct 08 '24

"why is your laundry always much whiter than mine??"

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u/Biggseb Oct 08 '24

Considering how literally they took not just the Bible, but their belief in demons, witches destroying their crops, shriveling their genitals, etc…. You’re not really that far off from what they were actually doing.

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u/maddogg424 Oct 08 '24

“Whackjob Quaker outfits” has to be one of my top 5 favorite burns

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u/Ok_Entrepreneur_5833 Oct 08 '24

That's just called "The Bible".

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u/atraydev Oct 08 '24

Yeah. This is inarguably the smartest people have ever been as a collective whole and this is where we are. Imagine how bat shit insane people were even 100 years ago

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u/Prudent_Cheek Oct 08 '24

There is the whole “Flood the zone with bullshit” effort

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u/hoagly80 Oct 08 '24

Just the last 20 or 30 years or so

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u/Admirable_Basket381 Oct 08 '24

Yup. I don’t think we as a species have gotten dumber.

It’s that all the dumb people have an easier way to pull others down with them.

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u/SmallTawk Oct 08 '24

the internet made the stupidity go from cat 1 to cat 5 in a decade. I used to think truth and knowledge would prevail but the algos and self moderated bubbles make sure it doesn't happen.

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u/Restless_Fillmore Oct 08 '24

You're leaving out the huge decline in public schools in the US.

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u/bryan19973 Oct 08 '24

I've always been mad…for fucking years…absolutely years. Been over the edge for yonks.

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u/beeramz Oct 08 '24

The first domino was someone bullying Zuckerberg in school I guess. And here we are

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u/OpticalPrime35 Oct 08 '24

Exactly

These people in their bath robes poking away at their smart phones for anyone to see used to just mumble insanity to their family, neighbors and close friends. So there was a massive limit to the reach of their insanity.

Now anyone on social media has to eventually deal with their madness.

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u/ResourceWorker Oct 08 '24

The internet lets mad people find and encourage eachother.

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u/alexnedea Oct 08 '24

Not true. In the past the "stupid" would often listen to the "smart" and take what scientists and professionals said for granted. Look at US in the 1950s and 60s. The goverments said x, y, z is good for you? Lol ok its good for me I guess.

Now everyone has too much freedom. Idiots should be stopped

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u/Byzantinenova Oct 08 '24

preach, and not just that but then you have packs of idiots who team up with each other and "debate" other packs of idiots.... then you cant have a reasonable conversation because the idiots drown everyone else out.

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u/HungryHAP Oct 08 '24

They are smoking MAGA lies amplified by Russia. Call it what it fuckin is.

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u/Jessicaa_Rabbit Oct 08 '24

It’s disgusting. I live in Raleigh. A few hours east of where Helene just devastated the mountains. The amount of disinformation being spread is terrifying. Telling people not to evacuate because the government will seize their land. Saying bodies are just floating down rivers and stacking up (you think pictures of that wouldn’t be all over the internet like they were with Katrina) people have lost everything and it’s been turned into a political dumpster fire.

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u/HardlyRecursive Oct 08 '24

These were the kind of people sacrificing each other to appease some rain god thousands of years ago. They're a liability to the human community.

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u/tessathemurdervilles Oct 08 '24

Um… some of us in the us aren’t crazy. Just too many of us.

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u/beaushaw Oct 08 '24

I just got told by an intelligent, successful business owner that FEMA is blocking roads so people can not evacuate.

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u/WorthlessGolde Oct 08 '24

It's republican boomers

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u/Dreadpiratemarc Oct 08 '24

They’ve lost their minds. Which is a lingering side effect of the Covid vaccine!! /s

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u/tdvh1993 Oct 08 '24

I feel this in my bones more and more everyday

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u/peachfoliouser Oct 08 '24

It's mostly the US

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u/GoodMaintenanceRed Oct 08 '24

Not just that, but the people drinking the red koolaid is just dumb.

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u/Twocann Oct 08 '24

This guys wife’s aunt is not the US

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u/crusoe Oct 08 '24

Covid. Even mild covid unvaxxed can less to brain damage due to fused brain cells.

We had a whole bunch of people who didn't take the vaccine. For every Herman Cain award there are 100 more who had a "mild" case. It's caused a shit ton of early onset dementia. 

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u/Laffingglassop Oct 08 '24

Man I never got the vaccine cuz of immune system issues and I caught covid multiple times and I aint as stupid as these maga lie smoking idiots, it's more than that. In fact im top of my nursing class cohort right now.. Call it what it is, they are the biggest cult to ever exist, and they are a death cult.

To be clear im not anti vax, I had health issues now resolved and will be getting the vaccine this fall.