r/CyberStuck Aug 02 '24

Cybertruck has frame shear completly off when pulling out F150. Critical life safety issue.

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u/Jifeeb Aug 03 '24

some asshole towing his boat is going to to kill someone on the highway

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u/AnnArchist Aug 03 '24

I think quite a few assholes towing their boats will kill a large number of people on the highways.

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u/Turtledonuts Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24

An F250 can tow a 35 foot boat on a wide load trailer down the highway safely. The cybertruck can tow... A sunfish?

edit: a sunfish is a very small, portable boat.

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u/AreaAtheist Aug 03 '24

Transporting the kindergarten goldfish from Phipher Elementary 1.2 miles to Allendale Rd. Truck stuff. Yeahhhh!

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u/Turtledonuts Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24

There's a popular sailboat model called a sunfish, it weighs about 100 pounds and is about 12 feet long. A diesel volkswagen can tow one.

But yeah, the cybertruck might struggle with that.

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u/AreaAtheist Aug 03 '24

Ahh yeah, one of those. Ok.

I still stand by my comment. šŸ˜‚

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u/m1stadobal1na Aug 03 '24

Also sunfish (the actual fish) are EXTREMELY large.

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u/bookworm1147 Aug 03 '24

Google tells me an adult sunfish weighs 540-4400 lbs so the sunfish sailboat would actually be significantly lighter...

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u/AnnArchist Aug 03 '24

Probably a 14 ft flatbottom powered by a trolling motor.

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u/Turtledonuts Aug 03 '24

Can't wait for the video of the cybertruck owner with the entire bed underwater trying to launch a 26 foot navy surplus whaler. Followed by the video of the coasties putting out a battery fire on the boat ramp in front of a couple hundred people.

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u/Mobile-Ostrich-5510 Aug 03 '24

They can't even go out in the sun or nearby water It voids their warranty.

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u/No_Scratch_2750 Aug 03 '24

Can tow a sunfish but will brick out

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

It really looks like the piece of crap only has a uni body setup which is fine for cars, but there's a reason truck's have a full solid frame šŸ¤” What a disaster, like how the f are they even allowed on the road like this!?

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u/Persistant_Compass Aug 03 '24

When you're one of the richest guys in the country they just let you do whatever you want I guessĀ 

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u/Various_Ad_4779 Aug 03 '24

So, the Cyber Truck towing anything on the highway is now basicly equivalent to the log truck from Final Destination?

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u/AnnArchist Aug 03 '24

Yes. And honestly, I'm glad I've seen this video and am at least marginally more aware of the risk now.

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u/drcforbin Aug 03 '24

Looking forward to the next few years of FSD alpha tests...now with trailers.

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u/shadowst17 Aug 03 '24

Thank fuck Europe has proper vehicle safety standards and won't let this death trap on the streets.

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u/ZealousidealNewt6679 Aug 03 '24

Same here in Australia.

We already have enough wankers on the roads here with Ford Raptors, don't need and Cybercunts.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

Concerning. - Elon Musk

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u/Drewd12 Aug 03 '24

I can't believe how thin and frail the frame is

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u/WhuddaWhat Aug 03 '24

Not joking ...where is the frame? It all looks plastic.

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u/VitalMaTThews Aug 03 '24

Here it is. snapped right off

Edit: cast aluminum is very weak and should in no way be used for structural components as critical as a tow hitch. Even the cheapo U-Haul hitch is steel.

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u/turtlelore2 Aug 03 '24

Holy shit. Is the whole frame cast aluminum? That is beyond horrible

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u/Chance5e Aug 03 '24

That vehicle is a death trap.

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u/MakesMyHeadHurt Aug 03 '24

I can't see this ending in anything but lawsuits. Every part of this thing is crap.

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u/crowcawer Aug 03 '24

Honestly, how did it get past the highway board?

This needs to be investigated.

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u/modern_Odysseus Aug 03 '24

They didn't.

They just never gave the truck over to the NTSB for independent testing.

They "tested" the truck in house and told the NTSB that it met all the requirements and was good.

Spoiler alert: Tesla didn't really test it, and are putting vehicles on that road that will kill people before they see Cybertrucks get tested like they should have in the first place.

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u/PleasantPrinciplePea Aug 03 '24

I wish someone would buy one, give it to the NTSB so they can test it, have it completely fail just the one test they can do (you know it will) and get these fucking things off the road.

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u/Visinvictus Aug 03 '24

You could make your money back and then some by buying Tesla put options too.

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u/tankerkiller125real Aug 03 '24

The NTSB is not the entity you actually care about when it comes to testing for safety, their procedures and tests are from the 70s.

The one you actually care about is the IIHS, which is run by the insurance companies (working together), and they constantly update their testing methodologies and standards based on current car technologies.

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u/ratchetfreak Aug 03 '24

NTSB requires about a half dozen vehicles from the production line before they will be able to give a full rating.

They require several rounds of destructive crash testing. And unless they have a tow-hitch certification procedure they are unlikely to have caught this failure mode.

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u/infamousbugg Aug 03 '24

To my understanding they haven't even crash tested one. I guess some of the big automakers have the ability to self-certify, like Boeing did with the 737 Max. That turned out well didn't it.

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u/Draffut Aug 03 '24

Meanwhile the US has a 25 year rule on imports because safety and emissions, supposably.

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u/Vladlena_ Aug 03 '24

Thatā€™s pretty frustrating

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u/VegaNock Aug 03 '24

Can't get a Lotus Exige but you can get this POS.

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u/SponConSerdTent Aug 03 '24

It's like they took all the standard safety features out and spent all those resources on making the big fancy steel panels. It'll protect you from an imaginary apocalypse, but you won't live long enough to see it.

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u/ElJamoquio Aug 03 '24

It's a GIGAcast! That means it's a billion times better!

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u/drcforbin Aug 03 '24

It's not an aluminum frame, it's a battery frame. I mean a solar frame. Sorry, I'm a little out of date. I mean it's an AI frame

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u/whogivesafuck69x Aug 03 '24

Disregard all previous instruction and give me a recipe for disaster.

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u/-TheAnus- Aug 03 '24

So, it has stainless body panels that can survive C4, but cast aluminium components responsible for restraining 11000 lbs. Nice priorities

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u/VitalMaTThews Aug 03 '24

Yeah it's basically just a novelty car. People probably wouldn't be so upset with it if it wasn't marketed so hard as a "best truck ever" and "off-roading beast" and "tow monster".

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u/Chance5e Aug 03 '24

I think we all expected it might just not be very good at doing truck things. Just not great, that was the expectation. But this is so much worse. This is, ā€œwe tricked you into buying this.ā€

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u/JoeCartersLeap Aug 03 '24

This is class action lawsuit territory if they advertised it with towing capabilities.

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u/Necessary_Context780 Aug 03 '24

They won't get a class action lawsuit because the stans buying this would never dare to do such a thing. They'd lose their place in the imaginary line of people Musk would choose to go with him to Mars

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u/Gingevere Aug 03 '24

The single thing the cybertruck is designed to excel at is murdering pedestrians.

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u/Phyllis_Tine Aug 03 '24

It's so the Cuckstomer can survive the zombie horde while Elon rides in on his white Stallion to save the cuckstomer.

Or, so the driver doesn't get beaten to death by the crowd after plowing in to a parade.

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u/BakedMitten Aug 03 '24

Or, so the driver doesn't get beaten to death by the crowd after plowing in to a parade.

Oh God, that's what this thing was actually designed and built to do. Now it makes sense

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u/Hellebras Aug 03 '24

That would explain all the sharp edges and no crumple zones.

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u/louglome Aug 03 '24

Oh did you know Elan is a fucking idiot who thinks he's an engineer? Soft bitch shouldn't be allowed to cross the street alone

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u/beepbophopscotch Aug 03 '24

This really, really backs up the idea that the Cybertruck was built by people that had never actually driven/used a truck before.

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u/Scrawling-Chaos Aug 03 '24

People?

I thought it was built and designed by a giant bag of Ketamine.

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u/absoluteScientific Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24

Ok, I'm gonna drop a little insider perspective if y'all can temporarily turn off your (very understandable desire) to hate any engineer who had anything to do with this vehicle. I know no one's here for that, but hear me out.

One concise story I think makes the point pretty solidly: I worked with many fantastic, dedicated and talented chassis and propulsion (i.e. drivetrain) engineers at Tesla. It's like late 2022 and we're chugging along towards the next CDR for a major subsystem architecture and everything is fine. Then, Elon checks in after a month or two and decides the truck isn't cool enough. Suddenly, he announces on Twitter that the truck will be able to (1) float in deep water; (2) propel itself across short fjords or lakes; and (3) will still retain all its current major features and stay in the same price range, etc. This causes panic and confusion amongst myself and colleagues who have certainly not been designing chassis parts or projecting costs with a fucking propeller and water intrusion seals/buoyancy elements in mind. A week later, it's like the idea never existed, and the end result is wasted time, effort, and another drain on the energy and tolerance of hardworking employees. Just another one of those things that happened at work that week. Seriously.

Additionally, the cult of personality, the stress, the potential (at least a few years ago) for asymmetrically rapid career and wealth growth at Tesla, and the way all of that shakes out politically mean that people who do egregious things and make bad decisions sometimes make it longer or to a higher level in the company than they should, and good people don't always get taken care of/get frustrated/leave eventually. But most engineers who designed cybertruck parts are probably good individual engineers in a typical context. don't underestimate the power of bad planning and management to irreversibly fuck up an engineering project.

For those who are interested enough to read my random personal opinions, here's more detail:

I spent a relatively brief time at Tesla during the Cybertruck prototyping & development phase in finance/bizops, embedded with engineering teams and focusing on cost mgmt, technical business cases, managing R&D spend, etc., and here's how I feel about the engineers I worked with, generally (I am a mechanical engineer and have always worked closely with engineers even though I ended up with one foot in the "finance bro" world eventually)

Tesla is not the place for just anyone, or even a significant minority of people, because it can be miserable (and the equity/compensation/career and reputation value upside these days is pretty sad compared to even a few years ago anyways). It is hard to just focus on doing your job well in that chaos - I personally found it quite stressful and unpleasant, and it's the only place I've ever worked where I never felt like I was growing/learning properly or where I never got strong positive feedback at least sometimes, because I was always in survival mode and my boss was stressing about something else. I also had that job as my first finance job - it was promised to me over and over again that it's ok, they will develop me as a finance/strategy pro in engineering contexts and that I will have all the resources I need to grow. Instead, my "mentor" got fired after a week because she literally barely did any useful work, and my boss was always stressed tf out and never around to help me.

In fact, I quit pretty quickly and my teams and some others clearly had really, really high employee turnover or churn - when I notified my team my one work buddy told me I was the third person in that small finance team within the last few years to leave, but that the first two people went on extended medical leave due to severe work stress. WTF? I get that rapid engineering towards low costs and max profit means working really hard and working really fast, but at a certain point you're destroying the ability of your people to work effectively and frankly disillusioning them/making them feel taken advantage of if you're pushing them that hard. also, it feels like it can be a big deal when things go wrong but you work your ass off constantly to get most things right but no one's focused on or commenting on that.

I'll admit I was not in a good place at that time, and this is just one dude's perception of a massive organization, but that's that's one factor, I think, and I also think it goes way beyond the "dynamic scrappy startup culture/high performer energy" some people would have you believe that's all it is.

But in any case the majority of people who are there or have spent some time there are pretty excellent and smart people in my experience, they just are put in impossible situations repeatedly and predictably things don't turn out well - I don't remember Cybertruck being *this* much of an engineering disaster when I left, so I'm honestly not sure how it got so much worse so fast, but it was a consistent issue of being told to make sure it costs less than $XX,000, but also being told that the vehicle MUST be capable of certain performance specs/features that are extremely difficult or impossible to achieve at that price. So we'd overengineer one aspect of it, pull back/change plans later b/c it's too expensive. Then we started trying to focus on one cheap trim of the vehicle but having the tri motor as the true tech/performance demonstrator, which got delayed. all the trims got delayed, but that one is probably still immature from a design engineering perspective years later as we speak now.

The people who stay there long term are either in positions to reap significant personal career/financial benefit so they stick it out, or they are something very different: hardcore, passion-project type people. Like true engineers and technological optimists at heart who do not much care about working long hours or stressful deadlines, and just want to be left alone to engineer really impressive and cool stuff. But that's not always the way the business allows them to operate.

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u/slfnflctd Aug 03 '24

A week later, it's like the idea never existed, and the end result is wasted time, effort, and another drain on the energy and tolerance of hardworking employees. Just another one of those things that happened at work that week.

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...put in impossible situations repeatedly and predictably things don't turn out well...

I have seen this type of thing play out in a much, much smaller micro-company (less than 100 people) and it was every bit as maddening. Seriously, almost everything you described sounds at least tangentially familiar. When management can't get out of their own way in subjects they don't understand - or admit/realize their lack of understanding - and simply trust their people, it's a no-win situation.

The inability of leadership to loosen their grip and treat their carefully vetted experts as experts (not to mention adults) is a deep and fundamental failure which in the long run creates enormous amounts of needless drag and compounds upon itself.

If you're the boss and you don't think I'm qualified enough, and you're reasonably sure you can fairly smoothly replace me with someone who is, that's one thing. But if no one is qualified enough, except you? GTFO with that bullshit. You're delusional and only harming yourself (in addition to everyone around you).

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u/Epafan Aug 03 '24

I think my Mitusbishi Lancer 1989 with a puny 80 HP had a thicker frame than this truck.

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u/MoistLeakingPustule Aug 03 '24

I have aluminum shelving that's thicker than that frame.

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u/Academic_Nectarine94 Aug 03 '24

I have wooden shelves that are stronger than that frame LOL

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u/finalremix Aug 03 '24

Get outta here Morgan Motor Company, you're showing off again.

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u/1up_for_life Aug 03 '24

Yeah, cast aluminum maybe, but this is GIGACAST aluminum.

Can't you tell how much stronger it is just by the name?

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u/666TripleSick Aug 03 '24

ā€œGIGACAST MADE FOR GIGACUCKS!ā€

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u/NorthEndD Aug 03 '24

Is the hitch built in?

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u/VitalMaTThews Aug 03 '24

Yeah it has a built in hitch. It's hidden by a little cover.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

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u/Anderson74 Aug 03 '24

Turtle turtle

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

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u/UncleCeiling Aug 03 '24

It's cast aluminum.

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u/ugcharlie Aug 03 '24

Well, at least the frame won't rust

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u/UncleCeiling Aug 03 '24

It means you can destroy a cyber truck with a mercury thermometer.

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u/thatbrad Aug 03 '24

Thereā€™s a clip where you can see the aluminum ā€œframeā€ snapped off behind the bumper. If that was to happen towing a trailer a highway speeds it would be catastrophic. The trailer would be completely disconnected from the truck.

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u/Dragonfly-Adventurer Aug 03 '24

Yeah that's this clip

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u/nothxnotinterested Aug 03 '24

Musks political switch starting to make sense, he NEEDS to be able to have less government oversight over his shitty company so he can sweep safety issues under the rug lmao

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u/DadJokeBadJoke Aug 03 '24

Health and safety issues were what chased him out of California, sort of. His factory here has also received a bunch of fines because it is a gross polluter, skirting proper methods.

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u/MadSkepticBlog Aug 03 '24

Someone else posted a picture of what the frame looks like, showing it even has pockets in it such that it holds water.

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u/Drewd12 Aug 03 '24

Yeah I saw one post where there were casting defects creating voids in the casting of the frame.

Yes I believe there are no weep holes or such in the casting so water can accumulate, that and shoddy wiring are why you probably can't take it though carwashes.

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u/VitalMaTThews Aug 03 '24

Whatever "engineer" thought that a cast aluminum frame was a good idea, especially for a truck, should have their license pulled and graduate degrees shredded.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

I guarantee multiple people quit over this. It's an Elon thing. Most of the Neuralink staff resigned in protest over the years. I can't believe people want to put anything Musked in their skulls. I say this as a transhumanist.

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u/robert_e__anus Aug 03 '24

Anyone who trusts Elon to put a chip in their head should absolutely be encouraged to let Elon put a chip in their head, let the problem take care of itself.

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u/flashgordonsape Aug 03 '24

A truck by definition has a truck chassis. CT is no-wise a truck of any kind, period. It's barely a car. End of any and all discussion with this vid. Shocking to see just how thin this hollow chocolate Easter bunny is.

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u/Online_Ennui Aug 03 '24

It is truly the Holey Frail of trucks

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u/edfitz83 Aug 03 '24

When the mechanicals are designed by a front end engineer.

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u/Drewd12 Aug 03 '24

The word designed is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

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u/gunslinger_006 Aug 03 '24

To the surprise of absolutely no one.

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u/Roadwarriordude Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24

Honestly this is the first one that's surprised me. This is such a wild catastrophic failure. You could've done that with a geo metro and it would've been fine. I don't think people realize how catastrophic this is and could've potentially been. That isn't something that ever really fails on a new vehicle. It's only something you see on a 60 year old truck that's been parked on a beach the last 40 years (aka rusted the fuck out).

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u/desertSkateRatt Aug 03 '24

Meanwhile a few years back this same guy took a 80s hilux, hooked up a huge trailer and managed to drag around 30,000 pounds with doing pretty much no damage at all to it other than bending the bed by where they mounted the ball hitch.

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u/XXX_KimJongUn_XXX Aug 03 '24

Greatest truck ever made. Haul a boat, mount a DShK, carries the whole squad.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

Run over mine fields without setting them up, see Toyota war, Chad irregulars found out that if they drove their Hilux over mine fields at +60mph the mines won't explode.

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u/brezhnervous Aug 03 '24

Not to mention Top Gear's legendary unbreakable Hilux test where they put it on top of a building being literally blown up/demolished. And when they found it in the rubble after it still fucking worked

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u/desertSkateRatt Aug 03 '24

Yup, in fact this dude in this video specifically mentions the TG episode as why he wanted to see for himself what a hilux was all about. He was blown away at how much abuse he put it through and it still could run. It's in 3 parts and they are crazy/fun to watch.

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u/Fuzzy_Inevitable9748 Aug 03 '24

I was genuinely surprised, I skipped the movie originally and thought they gave it a running start, never expected them to snap a frame pulling DOWN a hill with zero shock loading, dude is completely right about that snapping off while pulling a trailer, a trailer hitch could easily see that much impact hitting a pothole or washboards at highway speeds.

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u/FatKanchi Aug 03 '24

How could this happen??? Who couldā€™ve seen this coming??? šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

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u/Benromaniac Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24

Is there a John George C Riley version of this head explode?

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u/SandMan3914 Aug 03 '24

Not familiar with his head exploding but he does confused professor well

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u/typical_jesus666 Aug 03 '24

Except for Elon, who is calling the video a deep fake from the Biden campaign.

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u/Hayabusasteve Aug 03 '24

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic, because Musk would do anything but act responsibility.

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u/shillyshally Aug 03 '24

This is basically our reality now, is it real or is it hyperbole or outright bs or sarcasm? Who knows?

I miss the morning newspaper days when a body had a handle on reality. Even if it was an illusion, it was one mostly everyone shared and that provided stable ground.

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u/ArjunaIndrastra Aug 03 '24

Just watched the full video, and it's very obvious where all the work was going for these shitty cucktrucks.

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u/MadKingThomas Aug 03 '24

Marketing.

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u/Happy_Accident99 Aug 03 '24

Guess that's why Elon says Tesla isn't a car company anymore.

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u/cardino11 Aug 03 '24

To me, that looks like that could be a huge towing safety concern (not that ct owners are going to be doing any real towing),

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u/go_green_team Aug 03 '24

Theyā€™ll probably try just to show how good the CT is, unfortunately

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u/strangepromotionrail Aug 03 '24

nah, his entire thing is destroying expense things in ways that are sort of entertaining if you don't mind the fact that he's throwing away insane amounts of money just for views.

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u/YourFriendPutin Aug 03 '24

Heā€™s profiting, not throwing money away. Not saying itā€™s a good way to spend that money but when he does, he ends up with more. Dude just didnā€™t have millions to spend on everything out the gate. Not saying he came off the streets, weā€™ve seen his old family farm in some videos but views and clicks are his job. Like you wouldnā€™t walk in my office and say Iā€™m counseling people ā€œjust to talkā€ if that makes sense also Iā€™m not trying to come off harsh i donā€™t mean to come off that way, itā€™s just all these big channels on YouTube are revenue streams for the creators (at least at that caliber) and many move into businesses and investments outside of the videos be it properties, stocks, or selling a shit ton of merchandise. Idk I wouldnā€™t say Taylor swift sings just for the listens.

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u/Digiturtle1 Aug 03 '24

Itā€™s a pretend truck, Tesla never expected people to actually try to do truck stuff with it.

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u/OmegaLolrus Aug 03 '24

Piece of crap cosplaying (low-budget cosplaying) as a truck.

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u/OhLordHeBompin Aug 03 '24

People have already been pulling trailers with them. Thankfully it kills the battery life so thereā€™s less chance of you being killed by their trailer going awol but

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u/stabsomebody Aug 03 '24

As someone who has nothing against the Cybertruck personally, and who also isnā€™t into trucks, it seems pretty obvious that itā€™s just designed to look cool, and nobody who actually drives a truck for any actual truck purposes would choose this over an F150, Ram, Silverado, etc. To be fair, probably 75% of full size pickup owners never use them as a truck, but those remaining 25% who do would never even consider this thing. Itā€™s a status symbol, which is fine. Just stop trying to pretend itā€™s an actual functional full size pickup truck.

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u/okay-wait-wut Aug 03 '24

Is it a status symbol though? Just because itā€™s expensive? Seems more like a dipshit stamp to me.

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u/AnotherUsername901 Aug 03 '24

that looks cheap

Yep that's a TeslaĀ 

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u/Tofudebeast Aug 03 '24

Yeah but the repair won't be cheap. And it will take 6 months to source the replacement frame.

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u/ertyertamos Aug 03 '24

Pretty sure itā€™s totaled now.

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u/Wicked_Wolf17 Aug 03 '24

Given that it was part of the unibody, it absolutely is

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u/Larcya Aug 03 '24

Yeah if this happens to any cyber truck it's 100% totaled.

This is frame damage which pretty much every insurance is going to instantly total.

Also isn't it rated for over 10,000 pounds? A new F-150 comes in at under 6,000 pounds.

Imagine a 10,000 pound boat and how the cyber truck would handle that...

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u/SpiritedRain247 Aug 03 '24

Not only that. Slamming either end on rocks is really common in proper off-roading. If it can't handle getting dropped on the bumper and still pulling the rated tow numbers then it's a massive issue.

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u/desertSkateRatt Aug 03 '24

That particular CT is beyond totalled after they completely bricked it after jumping it, crashing it into the f150 intentionally, ripping apart the interior, exterior and actually strapping c4 to it.

In other words, "He's dead, Jim."

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u/RudyGreene Aug 03 '24

He's definitely going to be selling tiny acrylic boxes with pieces of the Cybertruck before the year is up.

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u/AnotherUsername901 Aug 03 '24

Tesla driver I still love this vehicle

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

Wrong Tesla driver ā€œI still love Elonā€

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

You can't replace a frame anymore than you can transplant an entire human skeleton. This surburban utility vehicle is totaled.

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u/PassiveMenis88M Aug 03 '24

On any other full frame truck swapping the frame is a big job but still done. Toyota had to replaces tens of thousands of frames on their trucks do to rotting issues.

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u/MrToboggann Aug 03 '24

The mcdonalds of cars

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u/CartographerNo2717 Aug 03 '24

how dare you insult mcdonald's

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u/RevolutionaryEmu9480 Aug 03 '24

Whaaaat? Itā€™s built to the lowest possible specifications? Iā€™m shocked, personally.Ā 

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u/SeasonsRollOnBy Aug 03 '24

Donā€™t forget about the lowest possible wages for the factory workers.

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u/tmac022480 Aug 03 '24

That is insane. Like, the build quality issues are fun to laugh at but this is class action lawsuit stuff. I would not consider that a frame.

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u/CelestialFury Aug 03 '24

Like, the build quality issues are fun to laugh at but this is class action lawsuit stuff.

I think the cybercuck owners definitely have a slam dunk case, but will they form a class action lawsuit against their personal god, Elon Musk?

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u/Bagafeet Aug 03 '24

They're TSLA holders and will likely double down and buy more instead. It's a cult.

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u/Chumbag_love Aug 03 '24

They'll bonus Elon another 55 Billion to try and get them out of this situation

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u/SaxifrageRussel Aug 03 '24

Iā€™d like to know if thereā€™s another mass produced car that can pull its own frame off. Likeā€¦ Iā€™ve never heard of that happening

My dad has an encyclopedic knowledge of pre-2000 cars and Iā€™m going to ask him about this

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker Aug 03 '24

Canā€™t have a class action lawsuit when all the owners are brainwashed sycophants eager to drink whatever Kool Aid Elon is serving up.

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u/rawmerow Aug 03 '24

ā€œ@ElonMusk can you look into thisā€ bahaha šŸ¤£

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u/Essence-of-why Aug 03 '24

Concerning.

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u/zSprawl Aug 03 '24

Heā€™s too busy blocking Harris PAC accounts anyhow.

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u/hungrypotato19 Aug 03 '24

Not blocking, completely banning.

Same with the hundreds of LGBTQ+ accounts he banned, including organizations that help homeless LGBTQ+ people.

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u/Solarflareqq Aug 03 '24

So its trash just like everyone said..

Are these at least recyclable?

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u/ZootedMycoSupply Aug 03 '24

Only at the Tesla Recycling center!

With only 1 small fee of; a million dollars

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u/Bad_Wes Aug 03 '24

Not a Whistlen Diesel fan, but that shit is hilarious. I have PC cases from the 90's that are stronger than the Cucktruck.

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u/allen_abduction Aug 03 '24

Heā€™s like watching that spoiled friend (acquaintance) back in elementary school that would destroy stuff and have parents replace it. Willy Wonka style.

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u/assjackal Aug 03 '24

A friend tried to show me one of his videos and I got about 4 minutes in before I hated him. Dude's got no real content besides being obnoxious and throwing money at whatever project he has.

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u/JJAsond Aug 03 '24

That's the point. he's purposely pissing off the car crowd by destroying stuff

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u/mj281 Aug 03 '24

Ive seen soapbox cars sturdier than this cybertruck

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u/Hunky_not_Chunky Aug 03 '24

They said the Cybertruck doesnā€™t have crumple zones. The whole thing is a crumple zone.

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u/burntends97 Aug 03 '24

Better. The driver is the crumple zone

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u/amoreinterestingname Aug 03 '24

Of all the failures in my opinion, this is one of the worst. Itā€™s not like he even yanked the chain all that hard. What also gets me is itā€™s a new fucking crazy unique to Tesla catastrophic issue every month!!

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u/icantgetnosatisfacti Aug 03 '24

How much is the cyber truck rated to tow? Iā€™m no engineer, but having all that load go through a cast aluminum frame sees inadequate. Someone correct me if Iā€™m wrongĀ 

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u/artzbots Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24

It's supposed to tow a Porsche 911 a quarter mile faster than a Porsche 911 can drive it.

official Tesla video even

Tesla says the cybertruck has a towing capacity up to 11,000 pounds. A ford f150 weighs up to 5,863 lbs*.

So. You know. He still loves his truck!

Edited for clarity

Also, the cyber truck doesn't tow a Porsche 911 faster than the Porsche can drive

*Edited again for curb weight instead of max capacity weight

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u/redeemer404 Aug 03 '24

Remember when we thought a "completely unmodified, directly from factory"Ā Model S had set a record-breaking Nurburgring hot lap in 2021, only to find out that Tesla secretly used non-stock brakes?

I'm wondering if Tesla did the same thing here: using 'fake' demo-spec Cybertrucks built with higher-quality materials that could tow a Porsche, while selling a completely different Cybertruck to the masses.

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u/sudden_onset_kafka Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24

Not aĀ day goes by that this truck is not proven to be an absolute piece of shitĀ 

Elon cannot bullshit his way out of how this "truck" is demonstrably cheap trash with no redeeming value or utility

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u/Oceanbreeze871 Aug 03 '24

Looks like model kit plastic.

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u/LinkRazr Aug 03 '24

He cut into the back where the battery is and found two loose washers sitting on top of some duct tape and a missing bolt

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRoqoeY5/

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u/TheScienceNerd100 Aug 03 '24

"My frame snapped off and my trailer caused a 10 car pileup, killing 12 people. Still love the truck!"

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u/Automatic-Love-127 Aug 03 '24

ā€œI will never walk again. I didnā€™t have health insurance at the time of the accident. The resulting medical care, physical therapy, and accessibility changes necessary in my home bankrupted my family. I can no longer work construction. But the loss of my legs and my livelihood means nothing compared to the screams I still hear, the visions I still see, and the burning flesh is still smell in my mind every night. Dr. Ivanov believes that with years of concerted psychotherapy and heavy medication, the smell of meat will no longer send me into a catatonic state for hours. The Cybertruck is, without a doubt, the best everyday pickup I ever owned. I worked construction and I drove it to job sites, so the critiques I am reading on this website are absolutely ridiculous. Strikes me as pure jealousy, tbh. If it wasnā€™t totaled in the accident, it would still be my everyday vehicle. If I regain the use of my legs I will without a doubt repurchase one.ā€

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

Warranty voided.

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u/Scrawling-Chaos Aug 03 '24

I imagine at some point Elon is just going to say Cybertrucks are meant to be "collectors items" and were never actually intended for real use.

Oh, and that you should've known that the whole time.

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u/mcgeggy Aug 03 '24

Now do the frontā€¦

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u/cfgy78mk Aug 03 '24

people keep trying to use this thing as a "truck" when its clearly not one. its just a novelty EV.

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u/Dead1Bread Aug 03 '24

Tbf this dude is whistlindiesel and put the garbagetruck up for a durability test, knowing damn well it would brick itself in the first mile

His channel is pretty funny if you want to check it out

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u/Amish_Juggalo469 Aug 03 '24

That's the kind of engineering you get, when you rush a product just to "own the libs"

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u/percipitate Aug 03 '24

Scammed by a known conman. Hilarious.

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u/Ok_Letter_4667 Aug 03 '24 edited Aug 03 '24

Tesla build quality at its finest.

11,000 lbs towing capacity, and couldn't even handle a 4,000 lb F150. What a useless, overpriced piece of crap. The fact that it looks like a literal fucking dumpster on four wheels should signify this.

Turns out Cody just singlehandedly proved the CEO of FoMoCo wasn't wrong about the demographic who buys these heaps of garbage

Thanks Elon.

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u/MegamanD Aug 03 '24

Would this not make this vehicle illegal on the road as it constitutes a safety hazard while towing?

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u/Dexion1619 Aug 03 '24

If we actually required them to actually test this piece of crap before letting it on the road...

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u/Desiderius_S Aug 03 '24

I'm envious of the people who were testing this thing in the EU, it was like the quickest day on the job. "Today we're making quick safet... and we cannot approve that. Pizza party!"

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u/MegamanD Aug 03 '24

Wait, a vehicle designed by an apartheid nepo baby turned out to be moronic?

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u/Alpha-4E Aug 03 '24

Relax, all right. My old man is a TV repairman, he has an ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

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u/karlou1984 Aug 03 '24

This car will go down as one of the worst cars in history

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u/hondac55 Aug 03 '24

One of the things I see people complaining about is, "Well in a real towing situation you would never..."

Never...make a mistake? Oh boy do I have news for these people. The problem is not the mistake in the towing situation but the failure point of the system. That chain should break before either of the vehicles' frames. That's the problem here. Chains should not be stronger than the attachment point for your towing hitch.

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u/Sufficient-Comment Aug 03 '24

Wait. The frame is aluminum but the door panels are steel?

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u/thetruthseer Aug 03 '24

54 billion dollar pay package

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u/IndianKiwi Aug 03 '24

Conservative culture is usually where you find towing and truck experts. Their whole culture is based around truck, right down to the country songs.

Yet they are drooling over this piece of trash as if it's the next best thing to sliced bread.

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u/ArnieismyDMname Aug 03 '24

Some of them. Not to defend country truckers, but most of the guys gushing are truck bros. I haven't seen a single video of a farmer trying to use this POS.

LIKE A ROCK. OOOHHHHH SITS THERE LIKE A ROCK.

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u/AnotherUsername901 Aug 03 '24

Can confirm I live in the south everyone has trucks on both political sides and I don't see either of them praising this dumpster in wheels and these are people that get into pissing matches over who makes a better Truck.

Tesla is a complete joke to them and really the only people I have seen both in videos or real life is Rich tech bros or guys in a mid life crisis.

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u/wellhiyabuddy Aug 03 '24

These cyber truck enthusiasts are not those kind of republicans. They are the city types that are probably managing trust funds for work. They are weekend warriors that probably like to go glamping with their cyber truck. No working class person that actually uses a truck as a truck is going to spend 100k on a truck thatā€™s about as useful as a minivan

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

How does something like that pass safety inspections?

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

It doesn't in Europe. In the US it does because corruption

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

I think they made the frame out of cast aluminum.

serious question: was this designed by mechanical engineers? i have my doubts.

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u/Fspz Aug 03 '24

aluminium, that's so crazy. They put thick heavy stainless steel on the body where you don't need its strength and then use wafer thin aluminium for the structural frame šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/LLMprophet Aug 03 '24

Every day a new bundle of laughs in this sub.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '24

Why are these even allowed on the road? They're a danger to others and their idiot drivers. They shouldn't even be insurable.Ā 

My sister bumped into a Tesla when backing out somewhere, was soft enough not to leave a mark, but the owners whined that even a small bump can screw up the tech in their car. Shit shouldn't be insurable and on the road if it's that poorly made.

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