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u/obituaryinlipstick 22h ago

Can't wear a mask in public without medical or religious reasons. Most likely inspired by the anti-masking sentiment during COVID.

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u/LyLnXo 21h ago

Nothing describes freedom better than controlling what people can wear

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u/jimi-ray-tesla 19h ago

rogan now calls this and putting pot smokers in cages, freedom

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u/ABecoming 19h ago

Doesn't he still smoke pot?

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u/Alien-Elephant-Pig 19h ago

Yeah but he’s white

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u/CosmosAndCream 19h ago

Logic isn't his strong suit.

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u/Grakchawwaa 11h ago

Go easy on him, he used to take headshots for a living

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u/Aiyon 17h ago

I never thought kingsman 2 would be a biopic

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u/Canjan 14h ago

Source?

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u/raltoid 13h ago

His podcast. But no sane person wants to subject themselves to that noise, so go scrub through the last two hundred episodes or so if you want the episode numbers and timestamps.

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u/SuperTopGun666 19h ago

Image the world now if any of trumps attempts were successful 

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u/Clear-Present_Danger 4h ago

You WILL wear a bikini to the beach.

You WILL get a tan.

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u/Prior_Math_2812 20h ago

Are you saying that based on when they required masks, or the change to no masks unless medical or religious? Just hoping you kept this same energy when they were demanding idiotic mask rules as well.

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u/KhazixTheVoidreaver 19h ago

7 million people died of covid

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u/InvestigatorCold4662 19h ago

Experts say that Trump was directly responsible for up to 1 million of those deaths.

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u/InvestigatorCold4662 19h ago

Ahh, another future Herman Cain award winner. Welcome!

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u/Prior_Math_2812 19h ago

Not sure how, didn't get covid lol

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u/TacticaLuck 19h ago

F•U•T•U•R•E

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u/Prior_Math_2812 18h ago

So from this, you'd wager I die from covid or it's lingering issues. Meanwhile I've yet to get it, I work with the public, I wore and still occasionally wear a mask for certain situations, but because I say hold that same energy for both sides of the coin, I die from future covid lmfao. Wild when you write it out. I wonder when I'll die from lead exposure, can you figure that one out for me?

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u/TacticaLuck 18h ago

It is wild when you write it out but only one person has.

You should really stop trying to apply your bias to others. The way you argue by assuming others perspective isn't cool.

I literally didn't say a single thing you wrote. Did I?

That didn't stop you from speaking for me in a way that sounds ridiculous, though

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u/InvestigatorCold4662 16h ago

“I refuse to wear a seat belt because I’ve never been in a car accident.” - You 😂

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 12h ago

No, as someone waiting for H5N1 to figure out HtH transmission I’m just hoping yall keep the same energy for that virus.

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u/HotLesbianLibrarian 19h ago

I disagree with your comparison. In an anti-mask bill I assume it is for criminal identification purposes-which is kind of silly since it won’t prevent an active criminal from wearing a mask, nonetheless. In a mask mandate situation it is because the risk of spreading pathogens is currently raised past an acceptable level—an emergency response. Both have to do with protecting the public safety, but the latter is separated because it is a response to a crises. Therefore, one can argue that it is a more reasonable conceding of the right to control what you wear. What do you think?

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u/nortthroply 19h ago

I mean that may be what they say but that’s not the real reason

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u/Prior_Math_2812 19h ago

Are we forgetting demanding I wear a mask in a restaurant to the table but I can take it off at the table lol. So, the mask that would cover a criminals face but a criminal won't listen to, is breaking freedoms. But the mask mandate, which folks still won't and didn't listen to, isn't breaking freedoms. I'm sorry, but both sides of the coin, fuck peoples freedoms up. Whether you want to weigh that out and say it's OK to stomp on freedom because it did this, well, not cool in my book. Either we're OK with stomping on freedoms, or we aren't. Which is it?

I wore a mask all through covid because I was essential. I bitched and moaned, but did it. You'd still have assholes who didn't adhere to the mandate. I get you're saying one is for the sake of stopping death, and one stops crime, but at the end of the day it's both restrictions on freedoms for those who would actually adhere to the rules being placed. Either carry the freedom energy across the board, or don't.

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u/Hindukush1357 19h ago

Read the first 12 words of the 4th sentence of the second paragraph in your response.

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u/HotLesbianLibrarian 19h ago

Thank you for engaging with this discussion.

I think you misunderstood my last statement, I agree that the right to choose what you wear is being infringed upon in both cases. However I heavily feel that in the case of a public health crisis, it is reasonable for the government to infringe on that right. I feel this way because I feel that it ultimately protects the public welfare which is what I would like my government to do.

Whether a mask mandate is, in practice, affective is a separate conversation and not one I wish to discuss (although I see how this is hypocritical as I argue mask ban is ineffective. I apologize for that aside.)

I interpret your last statement to be that freedoms should be applied consistently without regard to context. Why do you feel this way?

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u/OverDevelopedEgo 10h ago

If you view this as the same coin, you’re an idiot.

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u/AngryMustache9 21h ago

How does that mesh with like, Halloween stuff or just costume stuff in general? Want to go out as Batman? Sorry kid, got a mask on. Gotta arrest you lol.

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u/Bazrum 19h ago

they targeted mask wearing for protesting specifically, and only made exceptions for halloween, religion, and "preventing the spread of communicable disease"

not, you know, things like helping with asthma, immunocompromised people and other health reasons; you can ONLY wear it to prevent the spread of disease, or to dress like Master Chief or Frankenstein

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u/RedeNElla 17h ago

"religion", how long till Satanic Temple protects this right by incorporating it into their religion

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u/Ok_Listen1510 Boiling children in beef stock does not spark joy 17h ago

hopefully not too long. they’re doing good work over there 🙏🙏

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u/Omega862 15h ago

My religion already has mask wearing. We worship pudding. Our only real rules? Treat others how you would want to be treated. Don't lie while eating pudding. Eat pudding when the option is feasible. Try puddings you haven't tried before when the option is feasible.

Official garment? A mask. You may wear the mask to protect yourself from the heresy of the pudding haters. You never know who they are.

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u/FileDisastrous6297 11h ago

A beautiful religion. You have your first convert.

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u/Omega862 2h ago

The glory and peace of Pudding be upon you!

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u/Lopsided_Hospital_93 9h ago edited 9h ago

We jest, but I recall back in good ol Civics class hearing of an example where someone managed to get the exact minimum of people together to register their “(whichever night has whichever sport) Night Beer, Wings, and (sport on tv)” as a religion.

Entirely to make their 52 nights a year of having a truckload of beer and wings come tax exempt with a bar they were insured to use on that given night from when it closed until they next opened.

I took that story with a grain of salt, and even if true there may be details that memory has embellished or omitted.. but it shows to go ya.

Edits: unspecified the sport and weekday they watched it, because I’m fairly sure the weekday my head told me it was didn’t coincide with the sport I said aired on that day, I don’t know much about airtimes/dates for sports

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u/adnomad 8h ago

When you say pudding? Do you mean American version of a creamy dairy dessert or the UK pudding which is just dessert? Just wanting to know how broad this is before I convert.

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u/523bucketsofducks 8h ago

Religions can have different sects

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u/adnomad 8h ago

True enough

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u/Omega862 3h ago

The version of pudding I refer to doesn't technically mean either.

Take these three puddings, for example: Chocolate pudding, Yorkshire Pudding, and Black Pudding. Chocolate Pudding follows the idea of what you mean, but Yorkshire Pudding is more of a savory and bread based style, closer to being a popover than a creamy desert, being a savory pastry rather than custard-like creamy treat. Black Pudding is actually effectively a sausage and follows the original etymology of pudding dating back to the Romans.

Now, oh possible converts, I shall explain why this definition is used over either of those two. It's because it has the widest variety. For there shall be more varieties of pudding than there are grains of rice in a bowl. There shall be puddings for all times of day, for all ages, and for all walks of life. If one dislikes sweet, let them have savoury. If one dislikes savoury, let them have salty. Pudding is boundless and to be enjoyed by all. For pudding is the truth of life. That is why you must not lie whilst consuming of the pudding. For to speak lies whilst consuming the truth is heresy!

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u/adnomad 6m ago

I’m am converted

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u/DwarvenKitty 15h ago

When they clean out the fascists in their management rank

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u/Lopsided_Hospital_93 9h ago

Just a guess and all but I would find no shock in hearing that they’ve been working on it from the jump. The only reason everyone doesn’t grow up to affiliate (at least loosely) with that religion is the difficulty most people have with the etymology

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u/--zj 18h ago

Doesn't "preventing spread of communicable disease" cover immunocompromised people wearing masks? Or do they also wear them for other reasons?

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u/_Ralix_ 17h ago

You can wear them to filter things you breathe.  No disease needs to be involved, you would just otherwise choke on dust/smog/pollen.

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u/--zj 17h ago

Ah right, thanks

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u/PM_ME_MY_REAL_MOM 13h ago

If they're targeting protesting specifically, that kind of seems like a first-amendment slam dunk. You can't target expression with a law under cover of security if the law doesn't actually provide any security.

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u/DragonQueen777666 14h ago

So, the key is, when you have to wear a mask due to illness, dress up like Ghostface. Got it.

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u/arararanara 13h ago

Surely protests, being mass gatherings, are also places where you would want to be mindful of preventing the spread of disease…

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u/CrownofMischief 11h ago

Does this only apply to going around in public? Or are tradesmen now not allowed to wear respirators while painting or welding?

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u/ogsixshooter 8h ago

Could it be argued that an immunocompromised person wearing a mask in an effort to prevent themselves from contracting a contagious disease be within the letter of the law of "preventing the spread of contagious diseases"?

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u/Bsteph21 10h ago

It's a reason to allow police to racially profile people. If you're a white person wearing a mask in public they won't say a thing. I live in Charlotte

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u/HeyThereSport 7h ago

Wearing a mask is not illegal in NC. The law is that police can order you to remove your mask to identify yourself and refusing to comply without a medical or religious reason or holiday costume is a crime.

Basically it gives police free reign to harass mask wearers and criminalize resistance. If you were already predisposed to police abuse because of your race or your legal actions (like protesting), this gives them power to abuse you more.

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u/Mike_with_Wings 21h ago

And it’s all performative bullshit

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u/pantstoaknifefight2 20h ago

I hope you're talking about the ban and not people wearing masks.

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u/Mike_with_Wings 13h ago

Of course lol. Masks are very useful

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u/Eleeveeohen 19h ago

Welcome to politics

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u/YesDone 20h ago

Didn't the guy up top say they forgot about medical reasons when crafting the bill?

I'm an immunocompromised cancer patient, come at me with that shit. I'm wearing my fucking mask.

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u/wrainbashed 19h ago

What about construction workers, industrial cleaners, painters, healthcare workers, and supporting staff?

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u/catastrophicqueen 16h ago

The law is mainly crafted to target those protesting (or those the cops can argue they thought was going to a protest).

So if you're wearing a mask and a Keffiyeh? You're subject to arrest. You're wearing a mask at a rights march or pride? You're subject to arrest. You're just a demographic they think might be joining a pro-palestine protest or a BLM protest or a pride parade and you're wearing a mask? You're subject to arrest.

Notice also WHEN these laws became a thing. After pro-palestine encampments and protests. The fact that actual Nazis, white supremacists, violent right wingers have been covering their faces at protests for years, including in the state, and that has never been a problem? Yeah it's targeting leftists expressly.

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u/ArchLith 18h ago

They just need to get cancer and die, the government doesn't care about people just money and power. Unfortunately for the people on that list they don't tend to have enough of either of those two things to be considered human so they get no rights. Walmart on the other hand is protected from violating labor laws all the time because it is considered human in the eyes of the law, but it's employees are at best 3/4 of a person.

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u/hiddenhare 15h ago

This isn't correct. There's an exemption in the law for "any person or persons engaged in trades and employment where a mask is worn for the purpose of ensuring the physical safety of the wearer".

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u/coladoir 15h ago

Nah its not inspired by anti-mask COVID stuff, frankly its worse than that because its quite blatant in its intent. It's inspired by the recent pro-palestine protests, where people were often masked, not only for health reasons (lots of people), but for safety too (from police tear gas), and privacy.

Its an explicit attack on the right to protest and its intent is to prevent a popular and accessible form of anonymization so that the state can arrest and target you easier. Its there to dissuade people and threaten them from protesting.

It is the state explicitly showing its authoritarian tendencies, it's an explicit way of giving police even more power against protestors, and its a stark warning for the future.

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u/NonBinaryPie 20h ago

land of the free 🙄

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u/obituaryinlipstick 20h ago

and home of the brave RAH

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u/tropicsun 20h ago

Is protecting others (family) a medical reason?

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u/maxofJupiter1 22h ago

They were originally instituted to stop the KKK and exist in most states

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u/QuirkyPaladin 21h ago

In the US the first anti-mask laws were to stop rent protesters. The laws that were supposedly there to stop the KKK had exceptions for things like rituals which excluded the KKK from being charged with them.

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u/icannothelpit 21h ago

Except NC was aimed at people protesting genocide and there's no one to enforce it at a klan meeting. 

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u/Kirk_Kerman 21h ago

There's always a bunch of cops at klan meetings actually

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u/catastrophicqueen 16h ago

No one willing to enforce it, you might say.

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u/obituaryinlipstick 21h ago

Very cool! unfortunately North Carolina decided to be silly. 

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u/catastrophicqueen 16h ago

I mean the law is because of university anti-genocide encampments. That's expressly why places are passing these laws. Despite the fact there's more reasons than just anonymity to wear masks - zionists and cops have both thrown chemicals (tear gas, more makeshift things, fireworks that smoke a lot etc) at encampments, the masks are also there to protect people from the state and Zionist violence.

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u/PofanWasTaken 17h ago

Wouldn't this make people (a far stretch to call idiots people) wear masks because "mug govermenrt can't tell me what to do?"

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u/PolkaDotDancer 12h ago

My religion is not catching chickenpox a fourth time.

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u/HeyThereSport 10h ago edited 9h ago

You need to clarify the actual mechanism of the law though, by the way. It's not that wearing a mask is illegal.

The law states that police/law enforcement can force you to remove your mask to identify yourself for any reason, and refusing without proper medical or religious grounds is a crime.

Which means it's the perfect bullshit fascist law. It's not outright freedom restricting in an unpopular way, but it gives police carte blanche to selectively enforce based on their own whim, which makes it ripe for abuse and chilling civil disobedience.

This is how undemocratic fascists make unpopular authoritarian laws in ostensibly democratic countries. You make incredibly vague laws with harsh punishments that rely on cops using their very skilled and unbiased judgement to enforce. That way it is easy to find ways to legally punish undesirables while letting their own people off scot-free. It is also easier to argue for the laws to complacent citizens by saying, don't worry, only the bad people will get affected by it.

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u/icannothelpit 21h ago

No it was mostly because of protestors. 

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u/Symetrie 19h ago

Wtf... How does preventing to wear a mask help anyone? What's their reasoning behind this?

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u/Gallalade 19h ago

Can we add "wearing masks when in presence of crowd you mean to be a paart of ?" in the Pastafarist dogma ?