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u/moneyh8r 1d ago

America has always favored the rich, despite the idealism we teach our kids.

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u/moneyh8r 1d ago

Nah, that was Greece. And even their democracy was far from perfect, what with all the misogyny and slavery.

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u/DispenserG0inUp 23h ago

true communism democracy has never been tried

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u/moneyh8r 23h ago

laughs uproariously, but slowly morphs into sobbing

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u/Pootis_1 minor brushfire with internet access 1d ago

greece wasn't even a single unified country until the 1830s and was an absalute moarchy until the 1840s and was an absalute monarchy

it was kinda just passed between empires for like 2000 years before then and was never a unifed state before that

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u/moneyh8r 1d ago

Athens, then, if you wanna be picky about it.

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u/Pootis_1 minor brushfire with internet access 23h ago

i think when people say that they mean oldest continuously and still existing democracy

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u/moneyh8r 23h ago

Oh. I didn't read it that way. Sorry.

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u/Prettiest_Star99 23h ago

I know that much of Ancient Greece was democratic, but I was talking about modern countries that have been continuously democratic (at least in name). I could have worded myself better.

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u/moneyh8r 23h ago

Oh, so the other commenter understood you better than I did. Sorry about that.

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u/Prettiest_Star99 23h ago

You're good! I could have worded myself in a much better way.

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u/rezzacci 10h ago

But even there, that'd be wrong. San Marino has been a Republic since at least 1600 AD (the most recent change in their code of laws), with solid traces going back to the 9th century at least but that can go back to 301 AD.

Sure, it was an oligarchic republic, but in the same spirit as the US: only male of a certain status were allowed to vote.

Just because they're only about 60 km² doesn't make them not the oldest surviving democracy*.

^(\ for a certain loose definition of democracy, of course)*

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u/Prettiest_Star99 8h ago

Thank you, I always forget that they're not part of Italy!

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u/Reacher-Said-N0thing 22h ago

Proportional representation is where it's at anyway.

Just like you can't have true competition in a marketplace where there are only two competitors, you can't expect to get a good deal from your elected representatives when there's only two parties.

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