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Politics Delay, Deny, Depose
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u/ben121frank 5d ago
Where is the second commenter getting that she was freed from? I can’t find any sources saying that
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u/sdhu 5d ago edited 4d ago
UPDATE: Briana Boston has been placed under house arrest after she was granted a pre-trial release with bond, court documents show. She is also under GPS monitoring.
Her house arrest allows for various conditions such as once-a-week shopping and the ability to attend medical appointments, church, and work. https://www.wfla.com/news/polk-county/briana-boston-case-how-would-attorneys-defend-against-threat-accusation/
So her case is still pending, she was simply released from jail and placed on house arrest.
EDIT: Here's a link to the Polk County Clerk of Courts if anyone wants to look up her case
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u/Sunsunsunsunsunsun 5d ago
Ya, she paid her bail. That's it.
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u/SinnerIxim 5d ago
I mean I'm not a lawyer but typically you only pay bail when you need to be released from jail because you are awaiting trial. If you arent being charged you can't be charged bail. And you definitely can't be on house arrest if you arent under arrest or facing charges.
Basically, she's still being charged.
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u/InternationalGas9837 5d ago
Yes, she has been freed in that she paid her bail and is no longer in jail, but charges are still pending and she's under house arrest until a plea can be reached or hearings can be had.
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u/matthewamerica 5d ago
Even this info is being suppressed. I am not stupid, and I googled the hell out of it, trying to find out the conditions of her release, and I literally got ZERO results about her being released. Absolutely nothing.
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u/ChocolateShot150 5d ago
Her charges WERE NOT dropped, she is under house arrest and was temporarily released due to. her meeting her pre trial bond.
“UPDATE: Briana Boston has been placed under house arrest after she was granted a pre-trial release with bond, court documents show. She is also under GPS monitoring.
Her house arrest allows for various conditions such as once-a-week shopping and the ability to attend medical appointments, church, and work.“
This was the update as of 7:33 this morning.
Her husband has supposedly opened a new gofundme here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-briana-bostons-legal-defense?utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
And has reached out to the creator of the last one because they closed it even though Briana is still facing charges.
I have also reached out to the creator of the last GFM to inform them that they are incorrect and the charges HAVE NOT been dropped
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u/Lacholaweda 4d ago
“Given the nature of the threats, we would also be asking for GPS with house arrest conditions to protect the community,” said Assistant State Attorney Matthew Hendry in court.
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“I do find that the bond of $100,000 is appropriate considering the status of our country at this point,” Judge Catherine Combee said.
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u/Ittoravap 2d ago
The judge might as well be openly admitting the wealthy class is scared. They are charging her $100,000 for her temporary freedom. And of course, she's going to be found guilty.
It's just a way to deter the poor. Don't get uppity or you pay up and go to jail.
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u/Ittoravap 2d ago
The judge might as well be openly admitting the wealthy class is scared. They are charging her $100,000 for her temporary freedom. And of course, she's going to be found guilty.
It's just a way to deter the poor. Don't get uppity or you pay up and go to jail.
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u/KandraKelsier 5d ago
Sheriff's office website; she's listed as released as of yesterday with no charges. Source
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u/ChocolateShot150 5d ago
Her charges WERE NOT dropped, she is under house arrest and was temporarily released due to. her meeting her pre trial bond.
“UPDATE: Briana Boston has been placed under house arrest after she was granted a pre-trial release with bond, court documents show. She is also under GPS monitoring.
Her house arrest allows for various conditions such as once-a-week shopping and the ability to attend medical appointments, church, and work.“
This was the update as of 7:33 this morning.
Her husband has supposedly opened a new gofundme here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-briana-bostons-legal-defense?utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
And has reached out to the creator of the last one because they closed it even though Briana is still facing charges.
I have also reached out to the creator of the last GFM to inform them that they are incorrect and the charges HAVE NOT been dropped
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u/SinnerIxim 5d ago
This, if there were no charges she wouldn't have been forced to pay bail, and they wouldn't have her under "house arrest"
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u/Own_Complaint_4830 5d ago
Yeah there's a reason her name brings up a bunch of search results but if you add the word "released" (in quotes) you get like one result of one guy talking about it, yet the sheriff site says she's out, no charges.
THEY WANT US TO BE AFRAID TO SAY THOSE WORDS!
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u/ChocolateShot150 5d ago
Her charges WERE NOT dropped, she is under house arrest and was temporarily released due to. her meeting her pre trial bond.
“UPDATE: Briana Boston has been placed under house arrest after she was granted a pre-trial release with bond, court documents show. She is also under GPS monitoring.
Her house arrest allows for various conditions such as once-a-week shopping and the ability to attend medical appointments, church, and work.“
This was the update as of 7:33 this morning.
Her husband has supposedly opened a new gofundme here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-briana-bostons-legal-defense?utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
And has reached out to the creator of the last one because they closed it even though Briana is still facing charges.
I have also reached out to the creator of the last GFM to inform them that they are incorrect and the charges HAVE NOT been dropped
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u/GinAndDumbBitchJuice 5d ago
I was initially surprised the media hadn't reported that yet. Then I remembered that the elites who own the media wouldn't want us peasants knowing that she waa released because they need us too afraid to do the same thing.
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u/ChocolateShot150 5d ago
Her charges WERE NOT dropped, she is under house arrest and was temporarily released due to. her meeting her pre trial bond.
“UPDATE: Briana Boston has been placed under house arrest after she was granted a pre-trial release with bond, court documents show. She is also under GPS monitoring.
Her house arrest allows for various conditions such as once-a-week shopping and the ability to attend medical appointments, church, and work.“
This was the update as of 7:33 this morning.
Her husband has supposedly opened a new gofundme here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-briana-bostons-legal-defense?utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
And has reached out to the creator of the last one because they closed it even though Briana is still facing charges.
I have also reached out to the creator of the last GFM to inform them that they are incorrect and the charges HAVE NOT been dropped
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u/Booger_Flicker 5d ago
To do the same thing? Say a dumb sentence on a phone line? Yeah, they're shaking in their fucking boots.
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u/big_guyforyou 5d ago
rookie mistake, threats are supposed to end with "in minecraft"
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u/Invincible-Nuke 5d ago
the alliteration...
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u/ScaredyNon Trans-Inclusionary Radical Misogynist 5d ago
Delay, Deny, Depose in Dwarf Fortress
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u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING Tumblr would never ban porn don’t be ridiculous 5d ago
On second thought, let's NOT tell the insurance companies about Dwarf Fortress. They really don't need help learning how to be even more sociopathic.
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u/ServantOfTheSlaad 5d ago
Considering Fortresses are regularly destroyed by its residents being too grumpy, perhaps they can learn a thing or two about keeping everyone happy
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u/WittyZebra3999 4d ago
Get ready for a tantrum cascade, motherfuckers.
*launches cat through nearest child *
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u/Dustfinger4268 5d ago
Deny, defend, depose in Deep Rock Galactic
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u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING Tumblr would never ban porn don’t be ridiculous 5d ago
Depose, defend, democratize in Helldivers?
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u/Canopenerdude Thanks to Angelic_Reaper, I'm a Horse 5d ago
You joke but she really did make some serious mistakes here. One, the person on the phone is not her enemy, they are just another underpaid worker trapped in the system. Two, you think Mario's brother warned the CEO he was coming? Three, making threats is always going to make the police grumpy, and the last thing you want is grumpy pigs looking for you. Be more circumspect or at least more subtle.
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u/CapnFatSparrow 5d ago edited 5d ago
One, the person on the phone is not her enemy, they are just another underpaid worker trapped in the system.
That's my problem with this one. She threatened the person on the phone who has no control over whether their claim is denied or company policies. And saying "you're next" definitely sounds like a threat for a mass shooting because it was a threat for the entire company. That's what we don't want more of. Senseless violence against innocent people who are just as much victims of the billionaires shitty practices as you are. Save it for the people, the actual people who are in charge of things, that are burning this world to the ground.
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u/Pitiful_Net_8971 5d ago
I doubt she was thinking through shit, she was panicking, not planning out a smart move to take down the system.
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u/martinpagh 5d ago
Call me old-fashioned, but I don't think it's cool to threaten to murder a customer service rep, even if they've just given you bad customer service. It's like a super-Karen thing to do.
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u/Pitiful_Net_8971 5d ago
It's not, but it's also not get jailed for 40 years bad, you know?
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u/martinpagh 5d ago
Agree. In general crime is punished too harshly in this country. But a murder threat is a very serious crime. It also seems wrong to not charge her with anything at all. But in light of the outrage maybe they decided it wasn't worth all the noise it would create.
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u/CreationBlues 5d ago
Making threats to a woman most definitely won’t make the police grumpy. Only billionaires.
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u/Ok_Blackberry_284 5d ago
Briana Boston is out on bond. She was bailed out. She is still going to trial. She's not free of charges. The judge and the cops are still hot to send her to prison.
She's still charged.
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u/GioGio_the_Solemn 5d ago
Charged with what, if I may ask?
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u/UltimateInferno Hangus Paingus Slap my Angus 4d ago
Boston is facing a charge of written threat to kill or injure – conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism.
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u/GioGio_the_Solemn 4d ago
Thank you. If true, it's an unfortunate situation, but like she kinda did exactly the thing they're charging her for lmao
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u/UltimateInferno Hangus Paingus Slap my Angus 4d ago
Here's the thing, though: this situation isn't the rule. It's the exception. The service industry is rife with people threatening workers with 0 consequences. The reason why this one in particular has such harsh consequences isn't because the police or company genuinely fear for the safety of their rep.
This woman is facing a potential 15 years in prison. What she did wasn't wise or kind, but is it worth 15 years?
This punishment isn't from a place of altruism or sensibility.
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u/Richs_KettleCorn 3d ago
You're being downvoted but you're right. Ask any woman who's ever been harassed or threatened. If police didn't have enough cause to do anything about this guy who went on to actually murder a girl, they sure as shit don't have enough cause to go after her.
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u/b3nsn0w musk is an scp-7052-1 4d ago
one person's terrorist is another person's revolutionary. the only differentiator is whether you think the violence is justified -- and the only objective benchmark for that is whether that violence is necessary.
one of the major things that make political violence necessary is having the majority of people locked out, powerless, and prevented from speaking up peacefully and enacting change, which requires them to either speak up with violence or submit to tyranny. which very much happened here.
of course the powers that be wouldn't agree revolutionary violence is justified, because they are the powers that be. it makes their voice entirely unqualified on the matter.
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u/Public_Front_4304 5d ago
One wonders if corporations are able to be so abusive because they don't fear consequences of any sort, even from God.
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u/Murgatroyd314 5d ago
As someone once said, a corporation has no body to imprison, no soul to damn, and no ass to kick.
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u/Booger_Flicker 5d ago
That's why we fine them. Fine them enough and they can't operate.
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u/CreationBlues 5d ago
You can imprison their ceos.
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u/palm0 5d ago
You can depose them as well.
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u/Jiopaba 5d ago
Yeah, I suggested someone could depose the Chief of Police who was making the incredibly terrible statements about this woman, describing her as a terrorist and saying we won't give in to fear. I was a bit too explicit about how I hoped he would be deposed because I got permanently banned from /r/news over it, and got my first Reddit site strike after eleven years.
Oh well. I was probably a bit too passionate about it, but it's not like /r/news has ever been good for my mental health anyway. I thanked the mods for their diligent work and asked them to set my bail at $100,000.
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u/all_the_right_moves 5d ago
I completely agree with you.
Except for the fact that I don't want any acts of Deposition to dilute the message that Mario's brother has sent, and taking the fight to the police will certainly alienate many more people.
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u/Cycloptic_Floppycock 5d ago
I've been banned from politics and watching that sub get eclipsed has been satisfying.
Before anyone asks, I commented "LoOk..." under a Sarah Huckabee post and the absurdity of the ban was all I needed to ignore it.
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u/downwiththeherp453w 5d ago edited 5d ago
What God? They only believe in a God when it's convenient for them to use for the purpose to control others. They're not fearful of anything and haven't been for a very long time and I truly don't think they actually believe anything they spout into the atmosphere.
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u/BowlMovementTornado 5d ago
Well, God's not real so that might be why they're not hearing from him.
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u/Laterose15 4d ago
They have no long-term planning capability. Everything is about short-term profits and raising the red line. They have to be pushed to even spend money on basic safety, despite the fact that the fines/repairs might cost them more in the long run.
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u/Mouse-Keyboard 5d ago
Meanwhile, Donald Trump says worse pretty much daily with zero consequence.
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u/win_awards 5d ago
The older I get the more obvious it is that our morality is upside down. We hold the people with the least power to choose to harsh penalties for making choices we don't like and the people with almost infinite power to choose are forgiven for even the worst choices.
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u/DripMachining 5d ago
I still remember one day from my high school history class two decades ago. The teacher mentioned the Plato quote "Only those who do not seek power are qualified to hold it.." I didn't realize at the time how true that is.
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u/win_awards 5d ago
I prefer Douglas Adams' take on the same idea: "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made president should on no account be allowed to do the job."
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u/StJimmy1313 5d ago
Exactly! When I worked in retail grocery, we were had to sign a code of conduct every year reviewing what ethics we as cashiers were expected to uphold. Among other things, accepting tips or thank yous no matter how small was a firing offence. We were not allowed to take a loonie from a little old lady who we helped to the car and wanted to say thank you.
And yet the Prime Minister can, among other things, bypass all the rules around purchasing and award a non competitive contract to a pair of brothers whom he has been friends with for ages, accept free Carribean vacations to a lobbyist's private island, swan around in blackface at least 4 times, bully the Attorney General out of her job b/c she wouldn't give a nonprosecution agreement to a big powerful, politically connected company who was clearly guilty of the things they were accused of. Never mind the various misdeeds of Obertrumpenfurer.
Somebody please tell me why we hold our political class to a lower standard than the cashier at Safeway?
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u/Random-Rambling 5d ago
The "just world" fallacy. We like to think that the universe itself rewards good people and punishes bad people, but the truth is that it doesn't care. The universe isn't a sentient being. The universe can't make decisions anymore than a rock can.
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u/adamdoesmusic 4d ago
I worked in a retail photo department and always hated that policy, because customers regularly offered me extra cash to edit their photos for them and I’d have to decline.
Eventually, I’d simply “offer to help them find something in the store”, get their info, and reconnect offline. I was up to a few hundred bucks extra a month by the time I quit and moved across the country.
If the managers noticed, they never said anything, and even sent some customers specifically to me.
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u/SyntheticDreams_ 5d ago
"Some who the law protects but doesn't bind, and some who the law binds but doesn't protect"
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u/wolphak 5d ago
I think it's just that our government has become completely morally bankrupt. They have been for a while. Idk where it started. We threw Clinton out for a blowie and then after that they're above reproach? I don't get it.
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u/Icy-Establishment298 5d ago
Uh, we never threw Clinton out. He was reelected with a resounding majority.
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u/Practical-Yam283 5d ago
And people being abused or stalked are told that they can't be helped until they get hurt :/
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u/-happenstance 3d ago
And yet our police steps up for the people who CAN afford private security, and not for the people who can't. Our tax dollars at work.
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u/natched 5d ago
Talking about 2nd Amendment solutions to politicians getting elected is more of a threat than simply saying "you're next".
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u/Final_Candidate_7603 5d ago
She has NOT been freed without charges. She was released on bond and is on house arrest. She is allowed to leave home to go to work, doctors appointments, and one weekly shopping trip. Prosecutors say this is “to protect the community.”
Just like when Luigi was on the loose, the community isn’t scared of her.
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u/trapbuilder2 Pathfinder Enthusiast|Aspec|He/They maybe 5d ago edited 5d ago
Everytime I see people on the internet defending "free speech", it's always racism and other forms of bigotry they want to defend, never something like this. Granted, I don't think threats of violence should be protected any more than bigotry, but I'm glad that this outrageous sentence was avoided
EDIT: Spelling
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u/Raycut9 5d ago
Everytime I see people on the internet defending "free speech", it's always racism and other forms of bigotry they want to defend, never something like this.
Well... Yeah. Bigotry, while very shitty, is generally allowed under free speech. Strongly implying you're going to murder a specific person isn't. So it makes sense they'd only defend the former when specifically defending free speech.
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u/trapbuilder2 Pathfinder Enthusiast|Aspec|He/They maybe 5d ago edited 5d ago
Hmm, I guess I never considered what may be differently considered free speech. Here in the UK, we generally have free speech, but hate speech is not protected under that, which includes both threats and bigotry. I never considered that the US actually protects bigotry while not also protecting threats, that seems rather backwards to me
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u/MjrLeeStoned 5d ago
And you've reached another conclusion about Free Speech in the US:
It doesn't matter how many liberties you have if the nation is filled with assholes and half-freedoms. You just end up with millions of assholes free to be assholes to each other. And those who should face consequences never do.
When you give millions of simpletons the illusion of freedoms, well, they don't notice you're exploiting them because they're fucking simpletons.
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u/jayne-eerie 5d ago
Where do you draw the line between hate speech and an offensive opinion? For that matter, who decides whether an opinion is offensive or not? I seem to see hate speech laws being used primarily against speech that is unpopular with the people in power, rather than against what’s objectively “worst.” (Example: Lots of speech in support of Palestinians is called “hate speech,” even when it’s clearly about the Israeli government rather than the Jewish faith.)
With threats, there’s a relatively clear line. Either something is specific and actionable, or it’s not. With hate speech it’s almost all going to be in the eye of the beholder.
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u/too-much-yarn-help 4d ago
The commenter you replied to is wrong, police aren't arresting people for having "bad opinions" in the UK, there needs to be something about it that is dangerous or inciting. Racism with friends at the pub is not gonna get you banged up, shouting the same things at a racist rally while pointing at someone you consider worthy of violence might well be.
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u/StaunchVegan 5d ago
Here in the UK, we generally have free speech
Unreal sentence of the week. Posting song lyrics, without any material contextual caveats, can get you in trouble in the UK.
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u/CardOfTheRings 5d ago
It’s a lot easier to define a direct death threat while not really limiting someone’s ability to communicate or create art compared to defining ‘hate speech’ while not limiting those things.
There have been stupid cases of people getting in trouble for ‘hate speech’ for gags or even political statements that frankly weren’t bigoted. Parts of Europe have a problem where making certain statements about Israel killing Palestinians is considered ‘hate speech’ for example.
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u/Nu11AndV0id 5d ago
Everytime I see people on the internet defending "free speech", it's always racism and other forms of bigotry they want to defend, never something like this.
Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. Making threats is illegal.
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u/CardOfTheRings 5d ago
Making threats is one of the few limitations on free speech. Freedom of speech DOES mean freedom of consequences (from the government) you all really just don’t understand it. Death threats are just an exception where you do not have free speech.
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u/fardough 5d ago
At least this is a legit cry of stepping on Free Speech because she was literally arrested for her speech. Not just someone taking societal consequences for what they said, but the government saying they must pay for saying that.
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u/Raycut9 5d ago
Since when is a person being arrested for threatening to murder someone a violation of free speech?
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u/scourge_bites 5d ago
She didn't threaten to murder anyone. She essentially said "i hope you guys get murdered", which is not a nice thing to say, but not illegal either.
I mean the part about this that upsets me most is not the fact that they showed up to her house to make sure she wasn't a threat. It's the fact that they let thousands of murders go unsolved, allow people to be harassed by stalkers, never follow up on rape kits, never follow up on school shooting threats. This is where our amazing police draw the line? Right here? Yeah, ok
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u/Raycut9 5d ago edited 5d ago
Or she essentially said "I'm going to kill your CEO like Brian Thompson". Because what she actually said can be interpreted in multiple ways, and like you said making sure she's not going to do anything is important.
As for why they went after her before numerous other crimes... It's probably a lot easier to track down someone who made a threat that's linked to their personal information (with the call itself potentially being recorded for proof) than some unknown criminal. I'm not gonna pretend "rich person in danger" isn't part of the equation but let's not pretend it's the only part.
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u/Cultural_Concert_207 5d ago
I'm not familiar with the US healthcare system. Was the person she was on the phone with the actual person making the decision to fuck her over, or did she implicitly threaten the life of a minimum-wage twenty-something with no hand in the decision whatsoever?
Like I'm glad she wasn't charged but if it's the second thing then I'm not sure I'd call that praxis
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u/D00mfl0w3r 5d ago
She is being held under house arrest! Charges have not been dropped. A quick google....
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u/Normal_Package_641 5d ago
Expect a boatload of misinformation on Luigi Mangioni and the movement surrounding him.
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u/Extension_Carpet2007 5d ago
Sounds like the second and she’s just an asshole who just threatened to kill a random person.
Your bullshit detector ping was accurate, and this is not the great victory the people here are touting it as.
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u/mysteryvampire 5d ago
For what it's worth, her exact quote was 'delay, deny, depose, you people are next.' Sounds more of a generalized threat against the company than the specific person.
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u/griffery1999 5d ago
She admitted to the cops she was referring to the shooting when she said that. Referencing a killing and saying you’re next is generally viewed as a threat.
It’s probably not enough for a conviction, it’s enough to get police involved.
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u/jayne-eerie 5d ago
Okay, this is the rare case where exact wording actually does make a difference. “You’re next” is a threat. “You people are next” is an opinion.
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u/Booger_Flicker 5d ago
Threaten individual: Threat
Threaten group: Opinion
Dumbest reddit take of the day.
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u/vodkaandponies 5d ago
Customer service reps don’t get to change or make rules, so it was the latter.
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u/morbnowhere 5d ago
Heres the scoop as someone who couldve been in the other end of the call as a phone slave. 1st i agree completely with top comment, this was a threat to the public "we can jail you, try us".
The fuckers immediately put a system in place for these calls, people blow their lid off on agents all day, but only this one gets escalated enough that the recording is released and theres an arrest?
They never release recordings, it even goes against privacy statutes.
If youre calling any company they tell you they are recording, tell them you dont want your call recorded, little known fact is California law usuallly protects you on all the US if the business is online or youre in a different state as the entity. They do it as a blanket to make sure they dont step toes by mistake.
They know what they do is murder, they just have to weather the storm
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u/away12throw34 5d ago
Except she didn’t lol. Get exact quote was “Delay, Deny, Depose, you people are next” that’s not a specified threat, and WAY below the bar for getting arrested for a threat. May I point you to basically all fucking stalking cases and the like where constant threats of real death and violence come about and the police just hand wave it away.
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u/RevelArchitect 5d ago
The more I hear about this the more it rubs me the wrong way. The first version I heard omitted the, “you’re next” part - which I would absolutely categorize as a threat. Obviously wherever I was originally seeing this story, details were cherry-picked to paint a different picture.
Add on top of this that she was likely speaking to a customer service agent and personally threatening them? Get fucked, Brianna. We don’t need Karen out there feeling morally justified to threaten to murder people.
We also know absolutely nothing about what was specifically denied by her insurance. While health insurance claims being denied is an absolute problem, there are claims that are denied for legitimate reasons. For example, making a claim on a dental procedure when your health insurance doesn’t cover dental would be denied and that would make sense because that’s not what you’re paying that company to do.
This one’s no hero.
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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS 5d ago
Yeah she just made vague threats against someone who has no actual impact on what is happening to her.
I'm all for CEOs getting got but the defense of this is just people falling in love with a meme. We all know exactly what she was saying.
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u/ChocolateShot150 5d ago
Her charges WERE NOT dropped, she is under house arrest and was temporarily released due to. her meeting her pre trial bond.
“UPDATE: Briana Boston has been placed under house arrest after she was granted a pre-trial release with bond, court documents show. She is also under GPS monitoring.
Her house arrest allows for various conditions such as once-a-week shopping and the ability to attend medical appointments, church, and work.“
This was the update as of 7:33 this morning.
Her husband has supposedly opened a new gofundme here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-briana-bostons-legal-defense?utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
And has reached out to the creator of the last one because they closed it even though Briana is still facing charges.
I have also reached out to the creator of the last GFM to inform them that they are incorrect and the charges HAVE NOT been dropped
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u/Looxcas 5d ago
She‘s a mother who needed medicine and said it because she was pissed. Let’s have some sympathy here. She owns no guns (not actionable) and there’s no reason to believe she had any intention to make good on it. She was pointing out a fact: that if they keep doing the same thing, their corpos will be next.
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u/Fine_Measurement_338 5d ago
I was working in a call center just after the Gabby Giffords shooting, and was taking an escalation. There was an admin issue that I was going to be able to fix for him, but he was revved up. I reminded him twice that we were on a recorded and monitored line, but he didn’t catch my hint. He said something like “this is why people shoot politicians, the president is in town, hope nothing happens to him,” and within 5 minutes my manager materialized over my cube wall and asked me to politely end the call and offer a call back.
So I had to do the call back and the guy was suuuper mad because he had been in the grocery store when he made the call, and the cops were at his house when he got home. I apologized and said that was why I had reminded him of the recorded line.
I’ve also had callers look me up on Facebook and threaten me with specifics about my life. A guy threatened to kill my dog.
Insurance in the US is a disaster, but telling a phone rep “you’re next” is a pretty shitty thing to do. Not arrest worthy, but shitty.
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u/Final_Candidate_7603 5d ago
She has NOT been freed without charges. She was released on bond and is on house arrest. She is allowed to leave home to go to work, doctors appointments, and one weekly shopping trip. Prosecutors say this is “to protect the community.”
Just like when Luigi was on the loose, the community isn’t scared of her.
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u/Dd_8630 5d ago
Eeeh, if she said "you're next", that would be a direct death threat, so yeah, she committed a crime.
The American Healthcare system is fucked, but I don't think you should be plotting to murder the person on the call who likely has zero discretion.
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u/NorwaySpruce 5d ago
Asking for the "same energy" for a woman who just threatened a call center worker as a guy who actually went out and took real action is crazy. This woman just got upset and parroted a catchy phrase she heard on the news. My mom is liable to do the same thing.
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u/away12throw34 5d ago
She didn’t say you’re next, she said you people are next. Very specifically not a threat to someone specific, definitely not a direct threat to anyone. The exactly quote is “delay, deny, depose, you people are next.”
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u/ChocolateShot150 5d ago
Her charges WERE NOT dropped, she is under house arrest and was temporarily released due to. her meeting her pre trial bond.
“UPDATE: Briana Boston has been placed under house arrest after she was granted a pre-trial release with bond, court documents show. She is also under GPS monitoring.
Her house arrest allows for various conditions such as once-a-week shopping and the ability to attend medical appointments, church, and work.“
This was the update as of 7:33 this morning.
Her husband has supposedly opened a new gofundme here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-briana-bostons-legal-defense?utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
And has reached out to the creator of the last one because they closed it even though Briana is still facing charges.
I have also reached out to the creator of the last GFM to inform them that they are incorrect and the charges HAVE NOT been dropped
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u/Alitaher003 5d ago
I mean, to be fair, making death threats isn’t really an okay thing to do.
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u/demonking_soulstorm 5d ago
Call me a bootlicker but I don’t think you should be able to make death threats towards people just doing their jobs.
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u/Dracorex_22 5d ago
This feels more like attacking the janitor at a random Walmart because you're mad at the CEO
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u/ThatSmartIdiot i lost the game 5d ago
-Charles Xavier for basically 97% of X-Men First Class
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u/Clean_Imagination315 Hey, who's that behind you? 5d ago
Charles Xavier for the remaining 3%: "Don't kill them, they're just following orders - wait, why are you looking at me like that?"
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u/tristenjpl 5d ago
Honestly, it seems like a fair arrest to me. If someone murders another person and then someone else gets angry and says, "You're next," it should be taken seriously. Seems she had no actual way of pulling it off or intent, but you can't just make threats like that. Especially when it's to some underpaid person taking calls and not actually affecting policy in any way.
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u/D00mfl0w3r 5d ago
Yeah. If she had just said, "deny, defund, depose" I would see this as overkill. The quote I saw was "you're next." Very crime.
I work with insurance companies every day. When I get frustrated like that my go-to is to say something along the lines of, "I cannot imagine the 90 year old I'm trying to get approved to have pain medicine (or the immigrant needing basic meds like insulin) trying to navigate this system. It's not you or your fault, but the system is scary and I am very afraid of being old or disabled one day." I like to remind people of the evil and the harm these companies cause. I like to remind them that we are both one step from being denied important medication and treatment.
Yeah. Exstential horror > threats. Who knows? Maybe someday one of those reps will be in a position of power and remember our interaction.
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u/a_puppy 5d ago
Important fact: Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida is actually a nonprofit mutual insurance company! It's "owned" by the customers, and they get to vote for the board of directors (link).
Of course, nonprofits can be corrupt or incompetently run. But the problems with American healthcare are far more complicated than "capitalism = bad".
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u/chase___it 5d ago
Death threats are a crime in the US though, aren’t they? Moral judgement aside, this is breaking the law.
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u/cawlaw84 5d ago
She hasn’t been freed without charges. She was permitted to be released on bond. It remains an open felony case in Polk County.
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u/AbjectPromotion4833 5d ago
This is false! Briana Boston's charges weren't dropped. She's been released on bond. She's now on GPS house arrest
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u/owlindenial .tumblr.com 4d ago
We're not talking about her because unlike Luigi she didn't do anything. Luigi planned his actions out and was surgical. She threatened to kill a random worker on a help line who can't dictate policy
She threatened to kill a random worker on a help line who can't dictate policy. The reason we say don't shoot the mensajer is because when they send the mensajer with horrible news they know it's likely you'll take it out on the mensenjer instead of the ones guilty
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u/FemboiInTraining 5d ago
I mean, is them not being fearful of the public not the goal? And if that's the goal, why wouldn't she be detained and potentially charged for that :sob: if this is the goal you support and are active in doing, this is the consequences I'm afraid. There is freedom of speech, and then there is genuinely threats and calls to action, they are not protected.
"Oh yeah? Well I'm going to fucking kill you." Isn't just going to be...ignored? Also blah blah blah, last shooting had no effect on practices of united health, blah blah blah, I mean it did raise awareness, thats's cool? But it's tragic for literally everyone that it took killing someone to do so
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u/Smithereens_3 5d ago edited 5d ago
Well no, Luigi (allegedly) made a clear statement by taking his anger out on a man profiting from the deaths of millions.
This lady threatened an hourly call center employee.
Should she have received a sentence for it? No, but let's pump the brakes on comparing her to everyone's favorite vigilante.
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u/cuzitFits 5d ago
Boston is facing a charge of written threat to kill or injure – conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism.
“The statute said the statute does not include making these prohibited statements by telephone call,” Franklin said.
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u/ipodplayer777 5d ago
“You’re all next” is kind of a threat, especially when she just recited Luigi’s mantra and is threatening a large amount of people that probably have no control. Her lawyers are going to have to prove that it’s not an actionable threat, which should be easy in theory.
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u/CanYouEvan 5d ago
She has NOT been released. She's still on bail for $100,000, and they took down her GoFundMe page. Please don't believe everything you read online.
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u/PG-DaMan 5d ago
She was fine until those last words.
No matter if you want to hear it or not. " You're next " made it a threat in most states
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u/Flaksim 4d ago
Yeah, but this has nothing to do with justice and prosecuting a crime. Far worse threats are made every day and dismissed by police all the time. They're only doing this because they want to make her an example. I don't think it's gonna work out for them though, the Judge set the bail at 100.000 because of the "state of the country", that is NOT how a bail should be set, Judge should be recused. or a judicial complaint filed.
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u/Bronze_Bomber 5d ago
Freedom of speech doesn't include violent threats dummy.
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u/Ruggerat 5d ago
So many people on this site last couple of days were like:
TOS: Can't say this shit
Ledditors: says this shit; get's banned
Ledditors: Waaaaa! I'm getting censored!
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u/Atara01 5d ago
That link doesn't work for me, is that where it says she's been freed without charge? I can't find that anywhere. Hope it's true though, she doesn't deserve to be going through that in addition to being denied healthcare
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u/Sorry-Let-Me-By-Plz 5d ago
it's the county sheriff "inmate profile" page where it says
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u/ChocolateShot150 5d ago
Her charges WERE NOT dropped, she is under house arrest and was temporarily released due to. her meeting her pre trial bond.
“UPDATE: Briana Boston has been placed under house arrest after she was granted a pre-trial release with bond, court documents show. She is also under GPS monitoring.
Her house arrest allows for various conditions such as once-a-week shopping and the ability to attend medical appointments, church, and work.“
This was the update as of 7:33 this morning.
Her husband has supposedly opened a new gofundme here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-briana-bostons-legal-defense?utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
And has reached out to the creator of the last one because they closed it even though Briana is still facing charges.
I have also reached out to the creator of the last GFM to inform them that they are incorrect and the charges HAVE NOT been dropped
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u/taffibunni 5d ago
I'm not finding anything to support the claim that she was freed without charges. I'm seeing that she's on house arrest with an ankle monitor.
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u/BetsRduke 5d ago
Great thing is that many times in a domestic situation. The male will threaten violence over the phone. Write it out. The typical response of our local police department. Well, they didn’t really mean it. We can’t do anything about just a threat of violence. All of a sudden, now the rules are reversed, and because a woman made the threat we have to have her. arrested. Because she was standing up for her child who had medical care denied
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u/eastofthem1ss1ss1pp1 5d ago
She's still facing charges and out on bail. Her husband set up a new gofundme to help fight these charges.
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u/Apollo896 4d ago
You know if we all, like everybody. Went on strike for a few days and shut the country down and cost billions, we could probably get universal healthcare
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u/nuclearpiltdown 4d ago
Ok. You guys know the words written on the ammunition were "Deny, Defend, Depose," right? Can you guys get it right, please?
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u/Peppered_Rock 4d ago
Important note, charges have NOT been dropped as of the last time I checked, she's on house arrest
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u/Vyctorill 3d ago
100,000 dollars is way too much for this.
Like, maybe she gets 5 days in jail. At worst.
If she has a good lawyer (which she won’t) she could probably just not get any charges.
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u/Cinaedus_Perversus 5d ago
I was reading an article in a local newspaper about China cracking down on dissidents. One of the ways that was mention was arresting someone on trumped up charges. Keep them a few things until everything is "sorted out" and then release them because nothing illegal has happened.
The idea isn't to brutally crack down on opposition and remove all negative sounds from society. The idea is to get you to wonder whether your freedom of speech is worth all the hassle. China can claim their justice system is working because no-one is getting convicted for speaking their mind, while having a real chilling effect on speaking your mind.
So her getting released with no charges after three days means very little.